Awesome stuff you see on the internet
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A long but sobering read 
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@MiketheSnow said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet: A long but sobering read This AI thing better be worth it eh? 
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@MiketheSnow By 2028, the researchers estimate, the power going to AI-specific purposes will rise to between 165 and 326 terawatt-hours per year. That’s more than all electricity currently used by US data centers for all purposes; it’s enough to power 22% of US households each year. 
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@antipodean said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet: t’s enough to power 22% of US households each year. that was potnetially misleading. In NZ households only consume 11% of total power according to Google - I couldn't find that for the USA. So 22% of a low-ish number isn't a massive number. Industry consumes a lot of power. They also don't set out what activity the AI could displace. If it makes a task more efficient, that could easily offset the energy. 
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@nzzp said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet: @antipodean said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet: t’s enough to power 22% of US households each year. that was potnetially misleading. In NZ households only consume 11% of total power according to Google - I couldn't find that for the USA. So 22% of a low-ish number isn't a massive number. Industry consumes a lot of power. They also don't set out what activity the AI could displace. If it makes a task more efficient, that could easily offset the energy. Found this - says US households use 11.8% of total power (in 2023). So that's about 3% of total power usage. 
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@nzzp said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet: @nzzp said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet: @antipodean said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet: t’s enough to power 22% of US households each year. that was potnetially misleading. In NZ households only consume 11% of total power according to Google - I couldn't find that for the USA. So 22% of a low-ish number isn't a massive number. Industry consumes a lot of power. They also don't set out what activity the AI could displace. If it makes a task more efficient, that could easily offset the energy. Found this - says US households use 11.8% of total power (in 2023). So that's about 3% of total power usage. That's total energy, not electrical - which according to your source 43% of home energy consumption comes from electricity. According to the EIA, the residential sector's use of electricity (38.4%) is higher than either commercial or industrial. https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/electricity/data-and-statistics.php Presuming that the terminology is directly translatable (i.e. households = residential) etc. then according to chatgpt to meet an additional residential electricity demand of 332 billion kWh annually, you would need approximately: - 41 1000 MW nuclear plants, or
- 113 600 MW combined-cycle natural gas plants, or
- 129 600 MW coal plants, or
- 431 large wind farms (250 MW each), or
- 1,510 utility-scale solar farms (100 MW each)
 I get the feeling those efficiencies may be some time away yet. 
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Genius 
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@MiketheSnow feels like Stevenage is a big loser there! 
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@Bones said in Awesome stuff you see on the internet: @MiketheSnow feels like Stevenage is a big loser there! They got paid 
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Cold go in lots of threads 
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Oh the irony. 
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@MiketheSnow that looks like MS Flight Simulator. 
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