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2018 School Rugby

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Wow, what a game. High quality stuff!

    Hamilton Boys again initially dominated the 2nd half (about 20 mins), coming back to 17 all. Then Napier found back it's momentum and scored a try, but in the last seconds of the game, Hamilton got a penalty in front of the sticks, which led to a 3-pointer.

    Hamilton has won the Super 8 final, but scored fewer tries (3 to 4). If the Napier kicker had converted more tries, Napier would have taken it. Both teams were evenly matched and both deserved to win.

    FT: Hamilton Boys 23 - 22 Napier Boys

    Congrats to Hamilton!

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      Well done to St Peters College!!!!! Massive upset over St Kents we've had their measure over the years first final for us since the year 2000! Bring it home boys!!!

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        Wow, what a game. High quality stuff!

        Hamilton Boys again initially dominated the 2nd half (about 20 mins), coming back to 17 all. Then Napier found back it's momentum and scored a try, but in the last seconds of the game, Hamilton got a penalty in front of the sticks, which led to a 3-pointer.

        Hamilton has won the Super 8 final, but scored fewer tries (3 to 4). If the Napier kicker had converted more tries, Napier would have taken it. Both teams were evenly matched and both deserved to win.

        FT: Hamilton Boys 23 - 22 Napier Boys

        Congrats to Hamilton!

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        @stargazer said in 2018 School Rugby:

        Wow, what a game. High quality stuff!

        That was a game with plenty of twists and turns. As I have said previously, Napier is a very good team, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them as the Canes rep in the Top 4, and even potential winners. I recorded the game so will watch a replay at some stage. It was a great day for rugby and there was a decent crowd to watch.

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        • BovidaeB Offline
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          St Paul's Collegiate beat Wesley 41-27 in one of the CNI semis. I'll try to go and watch the final next weekend.

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          • African MonkeyA African Monkey

            Well done to St Peters College!!!!! Massive upset over St Kents we've had their measure over the years first final for us since the year 2000! Bring it home boys!!!

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            @african-monkey good to see some different teams in the Auckland final this year.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @african-monkey good to see some different teams in the Auckland final this year.

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              @kiwimurph Yeah someone's drought is about to be broken with St Peter's last win coming in 2000 and Kings in 2005.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                St Paul's Collegiate beat Wesley 41-27 in one of the CNI semis. I'll try to go and watch the final next weekend.

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                @bovidae That final will be against Feilding High School. They beat St Peter's (Cambridge) 15 - 12 in the other semi.

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                  Most would have expected SKC to be the Blues rep in the Top 4. Good for rugby in general.

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                    Results Saturday, 11 August 2018

                    North Harbour Semis
                    Westlake BHS 62 v Orewa 5
                    Takapuna GS 24 v Rosmini 3

                    1A Auckland Semis
                    St Kent's 21 v St Peter's 22
                    Kings 29 v Sacred Heart 22

                    1B Auckland Semis
                    Botany Downs 10 v MacLeans 17
                    Tangaroa 18 v Tamaki 8

                    Central North Island
                    St Paul's Collegiate 41 v Wesley 27
                    Feilding HS: 15 v St Peter's Cambridge 12

                    Super 8 Final
                    Hamilton BHS 23 v Napier BHS 22

                    Wellington Semis
                    St Pat's Silverstream 34 v Wellington Coll 12
                    Scots College 26 v St Pat's Town 33

                    UC Championship - Final round of the round robin
                    Christchurch BHS 45 v Lincoln Combined 7
                    Marlborough BC 55 v St Thomas 17
                    Aoraki Combined 14v Rangiora HS 74
                    St Andrew’s College 15 v St Bede’s College 7
                    Mid Canterbury Combined 5v Nelson College 63
                    Shirley BHS 45 v Waimea Combined 14
                    Timaru BHS 20 v Christ’s College 15

                    Top Four: Christchurch BHS, Christ's College, St Bede's, Rangiora

                    Otago Final
                    Otago BHS 24 v John McGlashan 17

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                    • BovidaeB Offline
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                      There is a long way to go until the Top 4 schools are confirmed but the matchups this year will be:

                      Blues vs Chiefs
                      Hurricanes vs South Island

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                        Westlake Boys 18 - Takapuna Grammer 18

                        Shared title apparently wtf....

                        No extra time despite it being 645 and harbour vs northland not on til 735

                        Unsure what happens from here re any further nationwide tournaments

                        Taka were up 15-3 at the half by the way

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                          The tie-breaker is usually the first try scorer.

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                            Westlake Boys 18 - Takapuna Grammer 18

                            Shared title apparently wtf....

                            No extra time despite it being 645 and harbour vs northland not on til 735

                            Unsure what happens from here re any further nationwide tournaments

                            Taka were up 15-3 at the half by the way

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                            @jk Same in Super 8 Final last year, when Hastings and Hamilton shared the title.

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                            • StargazerS Stargazer

                              @jk Same in Super 8 Final last year, when Hastings and Hamilton shared the title.

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                              @stargazer said in 2018 School Rugby:

                              @jk Same in Super 8 Final last year, when Hastings and Hamilton shared the title.

                              Different circumstances. The NH champ plays the Auckland champ to determine the Blues school at the Top 4. The Super 8 title had no bearing on the Top 4 qualifiers as the Chiefs and Hurricanes had separate qualifying games.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @stargazer said in 2018 School Rugby:

                                @jk Same in Super 8 Final last year, when Hastings and Hamilton shared the title.

                                Different circumstances. The NH champ plays the Auckland champ to determine the Blues school at the Top 4. The Super 8 title had no bearing on the Top 4 qualifiers as the Chiefs and Hurricanes had separate qualifying games.

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                                @bovidae Just wondering. Isn't Takapuna coed? If so, maybe Westlake will play the Auckland champ for the Blues boys Top 4 spot, with Takapuna going through for a spot in the coed Top 4? Or is that a completely separate path to the Top 4?

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                                • StargazerS Stargazer

                                  @bovidae Just wondering. Isn't Takapuna coed? If so, maybe Westlake will play the Auckland champ for the Blues boys Top 4 spot, with Takapuna going through for a spot in the coed Top 4? Or is that a completely separate path to the Top 4?

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                                  @stargazer said in 2018 School Rugby:

                                  @bovidae Just wondering. Isn't Takapuna coed? If so, maybe Westlake will play the Auckland champ for the Blues boys Top 4 spot, with Takapuna going through for a spot in the coed Top 4? Or is that a completely separate path to the Top 4?

                                  Yes, Takapuna Grammar is a co-ed. I don't know how they find the top 4 teams from each region.

                                  Last year the Blues co-ed team was Rangitoto College, the year before Aorere College.

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                                    I remember in the past that teams usually say which one they fall under (top 4, or co-ed) earlier in the year.

                                    St Kents won the Auckland comp (2011 I believe), but already decided earlier in the year that they would fall under the co-ed comp. So they didn't participate in the top 4, even though they were the best team in the country. IIRC Kelston won the top 4 nationals that year, even though Kelston got spanked in the Auckland final by St Kents. At the time, I believe Lavea didn't think St Kents would win the Auckland comp (his first year in charge, and the beginning of their dominant era), so put them in as co-ed. Ever since then, St Kents never compete for co-ed.

                                    MAGS is co-ed, but they never compete for the co-ed comp, which is why teams like Aorere get the gig.

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                                      Not sure teams can decide whether they are co-ed or not. I think they actually have to be them!

                                      I believe St Paul's Collegiate tried to get itself ruled co-ed and failed. It has girls, but only from Year 11, and in smaller number than boys. They were told they only qualified as a boys school. MAGS would be the same wouldn't it?

                                      The co-ed competition is so much easier to win, yet still "national champion" that everyone would go in it if they could.

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                                        Not sure teams can decide whether they are co-ed or not. I think they actually have to be them!

                                        I believe St Paul's Collegiate tried to get itself ruled co-ed and failed. It has girls, but only from Year 11, and in smaller number than boys. They were told they only qualified as a boys school. MAGS would be the same wouldn't it?

                                        The co-ed competition is so much easier to win, yet still "national champion" that everyone would go in it if they could.

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                                        @chester-draws MAGS are definitely eligible, they've been co-ed for almost 20 years now.

                                        Real rugby schools don't value the co-ed comp at all. It's not considered a real national title if you win it. It's comparable to winning the Bowl in 7s.

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                                          I found this info from 2016, which I assume is still relevant.

                                          The Co-Educational Schools Championship is open to all co-educational secondary schools. Co-educational is taken as meaning any school that the Ministry of Education deems as Co-Educational from Year 9.

                                          Co-educational schools wishing to enter the National 1st XV Championship (sometimes referred to as Top Four) must signal their intention to do so, to their Regional Championship Coordinator no later than the last Friday in Term Two of the year of the Championship, or any other prior date as a Region may determine. Teams so entering will no longer be eligible for the National Co-Educational Schools’ 1st XV Championship.

                                          St Kents made the decision to swap to the boys comp in 2012.

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