2018 School Rugby
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@ploughboy said in 2018 School Rugby:
hamilton boys players dont seem to have much success post school though?
The school's success is a reflection on making sure the squad has no gaps and thorough training. It's not particularly based on star power. It's quite noticeable that they are not a big side.
You simply cannot pick boys at age 12 knowing that they will be stars. So wisely the school relies on making the best of what they have.
The suckers in this are the kids, if anyone. Going through HBHS doesn't really make your chances of success after school much higher. That depends on your genetic gifts and work ethic. A school can't really give you either. But it can give you false expectations of how good you are.
You see the same with private schools and academic success. Because the teaching tends to be better, but especially the push to work harder is higher, many kids struggle when taken from that environment. They're used to others deciding how hard they should work. They find the distractions they were shielded from overwhelming.
I also suspect there's some cases of burn out. Some of those 1st XV kids are doing too much for their age.
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Hamilton Girls' High School beat Rotorua Girls' High School 56-5 today so join Manukura, Aorere College and Southland GHS in the girls top four.
@bovidae That's a big score for a final. I wonder how many players from last year are still in the Hamilton GHS squad; they were quite impressive last year, also in sevens at the Condor 7s. I think two of last year's players made it into the Black Ferns 7s (Devleopment) squad, including Jazmin Hotham? Very talented player. May also go to the Youth Olympics next month.
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@bovidae That's a big score for a final. I wonder how many players from last year are still in the Hamilton GHS squad; they were quite impressive last year, also in sevens at the Condor 7s. I think two of last year's players made it into the Black Ferns 7s (Devleopment) squad, including Jazmin Hotham? Very talented player. May also go to the Youth Olympics next month.
@stargazer Not as big as the Chiefs co-ed SF last weekend - Manurewa HS beat John Paul College (Rotorua) 82-3.
HGHS has had a very good team in recent years. Jazmin's father is the co-coach at Ham BHS. There are a couple of recent students in the Black Ferns sevens squad (Tenika Willison and Terina Te Tamaki).
Kickoff Times for Saturday (Host school listed first unless denoted).
Blues
Westlake BHS v St Peter's College - 1pm
Takapuna GS v MAGS - NoonChiefs
Hamilton BHS v Wesley College - Noon
St Peter's Cambridge v Manurewa HS - NoonHurricanes
Napier BHS v Hastings BHS- McLean Park - Noon
Feilding HS v Wairarapa College - Johnston Park (Feilding) - 12.30 p.m.South Island
Christchurch BHS v Otago BHS - 12:30pm
Gore HS v Rangiora HS - Noon -
So it seems, only the Christchurch BHS v Otago BHS will be televised (Rugby Channel). Bugger.
The Hamilton v Wesley game will be streamed here: https://www.sidelineapp.com/teams/hamilton-bhs-1st-xv/
Likewise, the Napier v Hastings BHS game - which will be played at McLean Park, Napier - can be watched here: https://www.sidelineapp.com/teams/napier-bhs-1st-xv/
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Hurricanes Boys Final
Napier BHS 20 - 10 Hastings BHSHurricanes Co-ed Final
Feilding HS 64 - 12 Wairarapa CollegeChiefs Boys Final
Hamilton BHS 43 - 5 Wesley CollegeChiefs Co-ed Final
Manurewa HS 10 - 38 St Peter's SchoolSouth Island Boys Final
Christchurch BHS 29 - 26 Otago BHS -
Hurricanes Boys Final
Napier BHS 20 - 10 Hastings BHSHurricanes Co-ed Final
Feilding HS 64 - 12 Wairarapa CollegeChiefs Boys Final
Hamilton BHS 43 - 5 Wesley CollegeChiefs Co-ed Final
Manurewa HS 10 - 38 St Peter's SchoolSouth Island Boys Final
Christchurch BHS 29 - 26 Otago BHS@stargazer said in 2018 School Rugby:
Chiefs Boys Final
Hamilton BHS 43 - 5 Wesley CollegeWas only 10-0 at HT but a lot of whistle in the game. Wesley resorted to some high shots and late tackles in the 2nd half, which wasn't good to see.
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I had an interesting conversation about Sky's 1st XV coverage at the Hamilton-Wesley game today. Based on what I was told we might be seeing less TV games outside of Auckland in the future. Land Rover paid a good sum for sponsorship of 1st XV rugby. So where did the money go to? Not to the schools, but the ARU.
A lot of schools outside of Auckland won't let Sky televise their games now as none of the money goes to the schools or their local rugby province. sidelineapp seems to be a better model for the future.
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Well done to St Peter's. Next week might be a step too far for us but we've upset plenty to get this far so you never know.
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National Top 4 - Friday, 7 Sep 2018 - Sports and Rugby Institute, Palmerston North
Hine Pounamu Trophy – Girls 1st XV
10.30am – Aorere College v Hamilton GHS
Referee: A Conlon11.45am – Manukura v Southland GHS
Referee: MRRACo-ed Cup
1.30pm – Mt Albert Grammar v St Peter’s Cambridge
Referee: A Rimene2.45pm – Feilding HS v Rangiora HS
Referee: D WaengaBarbarians 1st XV Trophy
1.10pm – St Peter’s College v Hamilton BHS - Televised
Referee: R Gordon2.55pm – Napier BHS v Christchurch BHS Televised
Referee: V Ringrose -
Some historical info in the following article:
- Summary Points: 1113
- Highest scoring final: Wesley College 53 – Rotorua BHS 32 in 2001
- Lowest scoring final: Otago Boys’ HS 5 – Rotorua BHS 5 in 1998
- Draws: 4 (Otago BHS 5 – Rotorua BHS 5 in 1998, Christchurch BHS 22 - Wesley College 22 in 2004, Hamilton BHS 6 – De La Salle College 6 in 2008, Hamilton BHS 26 – Scots College 26 in 2014)
- Tries: 140 Conversions: 82 Penalties: 84 Dropped Goals: 7
- All Blacks try/point scorers: Sitiveni Sitiveni, Stephen Donald, Colin Slade, Charlie Ngatai, Sam Tuitupou, Jonah Lomu, Ant Strachan, Rhys Duggan, Pat Lam, Craig Newby, Richie McCaw
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Did anyone see the cbhs vs obhs past week. Otago has a winger with serious gas who scored a hat trick. Also the chch halfback is going to be a great player. Don’t think chchs forward will handle the big boys from up north. Pretty good backs though
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Did anyone see the cbhs vs obhs past week. Otago has a winger with serious gas who scored a hat trick. Also the chch halfback is going to be a great player. Don’t think chchs forward will handle the big boys from up north. Pretty good backs though
@chchfanatic said in 2018 School Rugby:
Did anyone see the cbhs vs obhs past week. Otago has a winger with serious gas who scored a hat trick. Also the chch halfback is going to be a great player. Don’t think chchs forward will handle the big boys from up north. Pretty good backs though
I was there for a bit, not the whole game.
The OBHS winger may be the fastest player I've seen at that level.
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This week, there's also been an U15 tournament (at Auckland Grammar). I'll skip the pool game results, but here are the results from the quarter-finals, some results of the semi-finals, as well as the draw for finals day.
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Results Semi-Finals (could not find them all)
13th-16th
Palmerston North BHS 24 - 14 New Plymouth BHS
Westlake Boys ? - ? Wellington College - Westlake won9th-12th
Otago BHS 14 - 36 Hastings BHS
Wesley College 0 - 6 Tauranga BHS5th-8th
St Patrick's College Town 19 - 22 Christchurch BHS
MAGS v St Bede's - St Bede's won1th-4th
Hamilton BHS - Auckland Grammar - Hamilton won
Napier BHS 8 - 0 Rotorua BHS.
