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Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    Squad naming tomorrow (Wednesday 8/8) at 11.30am, live on the HBRU Facebook page.

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      From the Mitre 10 Cup launch today. I hope that Sam gets to do more than just promos this season.

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BmKaBNsHijs/

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        2018 Magpies squad:

        Michael Allardice - lock - Napier Pirate
        Joe Apikotoa - prop - Taradale
        Mark Braidwood - prop - Napier Tech
        Hannon Brighouse - flanker - Napier OB Marist
        Geoff Cridge - lock - Hastings R&S
        Jacob Devery - hooker - Hastings R&S
        Ash Dixon - hooker - Napier Tech - captain
        Gareth Evans - loose forward - Havelock North
        Tim Farrell - prop - Napier Tech
        Devan Flanders - flanker/no. 8 - Havelock North
        Solomone Funaki - loose forward - MAC
        Josh Kaifa - loose forward - Clive
        Kianu Kereru Symes - prop/hooker - Tamatea
        Jason Long - prop - Hastings R&S
        Ben May - prop - Central
        Marino Mikaele-Tu'u - loose forward - Hastings R&S
        Tom Parsons - lock - Central
        Ben Power - hooker - Havelock North
        Pouri Rakete-Stones - prop - Napier Pirate
        Fa'alemiga Selesele - loose forward - MAC
        Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe - prop - Hastings R&S
        Will Tremain - openside flanker - Napier OB Marist
        Sam Ulufonua - lock - Havelock North

        Michael Buckley - wing - Napier OB Marist
        Pasqualle Dunn - midfielder - Central
        Mason Emerson - outside back - Hastings R&S
        Folau Fakatava - halfback - Hastings R&S
        Tiaan Falcon - first five-eighth - Clive
        Stacey Ily - utility back - Napier OB Marist
        Jonah Lowe - wing - Clive
        Lincoln McClutchie - first five-eighth - Tamatea
        JJ Taulagi - outside back - Clive
        Danny Toala - fullback - Hastings R&S
        Sasa Tofilau - midfielder - Clive
        Shae Tucker - midfielder - Napier OB Marist
        Brad Weber - halfback - Napier OB Marist

        https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/videos/2310888068951921/

        I can only assume that Gareth Evans wasn't available for the team naming. Surely, he must be in the squad?
        Ben May, Brodie Retallick (although he won't play) same thing.

        Most notable omissions (compared to last year; not known to have moved somewhere else): Mason Kean, Jacob Devery (still injured?), Ellery Wilson, Sam McNicol (because of injury?)

        Edit: just confirmed on FB that indeed Ben May and Gareth Evans are also in the squad; also Jacob Devery (have added them to the list). Theyre still forgetting to mention Brodie.

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          #62

          Shit, that is a green looking squad. Most of those backs probably call Weber Koro.

          It's also a lot more local than was expected from the lead up. No relatively big name signings to fill out the team.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            2018 Magpies squad:

            Michael Allardice - lock - Napier Pirate
            Joe Apikotoa - prop - Taradale
            Mark Braidwood - prop - Napier Tech
            Hannon Brighouse - flanker - Napier OB Marist
            Geoff Cridge - lock - Hastings R&S
            Jacob Devery - hooker - Hastings R&S
            Ash Dixon - hooker - Napier Tech - captain
            Gareth Evans - loose forward - Havelock North
            Tim Farrell - prop - Napier Tech
            Devan Flanders - flanker/no. 8 - Havelock North
            Solomone Funaki - loose forward - MAC
            Josh Kaifa - loose forward - Clive
            Kianu Kereru Symes - prop/hooker - Tamatea
            Jason Long - prop - Hastings R&S
            Ben May - prop - Central
            Marino Mikaele-Tu'u - loose forward - Hastings R&S
            Tom Parsons - lock - Central
            Ben Power - hooker - Havelock North
            Pouri Rakete-Stones - prop - Napier Pirate
            Fa'alemiga Selesele - loose forward - MAC
            Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe - prop - Hastings R&S
            Will Tremain - openside flanker - Napier OB Marist
            Sam Ulufonua - lock - Havelock North

            Michael Buckley - wing - Napier OB Marist
            Pasqualle Dunn - midfielder - Central
            Mason Emerson - outside back - Hastings R&S
            Folau Fakatava - halfback - Hastings R&S
            Tiaan Falcon - first five-eighth - Clive
            Stacey Ily - utility back - Napier OB Marist
            Jonah Lowe - wing - Clive
            Lincoln McClutchie - first five-eighth - Tamatea
            JJ Taulagi - outside back - Clive
            Danny Toala - fullback - Hastings R&S
            Sasa Tofilau - midfielder - Clive
            Shae Tucker - midfielder - Napier OB Marist
            Brad Weber - halfback - Napier OB Marist

            https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/videos/2310888068951921/

            I can only assume that Gareth Evans wasn't available for the team naming. Surely, he must be in the squad?
            Ben May, Brodie Retallick (although he won't play) same thing.

            Most notable omissions (compared to last year; not known to have moved somewhere else): Mason Kean, Jacob Devery (still injured?), Ellery Wilson, Sam McNicol (because of injury?)

            Edit: just confirmed on FB that indeed Ben May and Gareth Evans are also in the squad; also Jacob Devery (have added them to the list). Theyre still forgetting to mention Brodie.

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            #63

            @stargazer

            So is Sebastian Visinia the only import that didn't make it?

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              @stargazer

              So is Sebastian Visinia the only import that didn't make it?

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              #64

              @duluth No, Lui Luamanu (from Wellington) also didn't make it.

              I feel most sorry for Jacob Devery. If he hadn't had his serious injury, he could have made the NZ U20s squad this year. He came back from injury recently(?) (he played the preseason game last Saturday), but hasn't been included in the squad. His spot has gone to an import, Ben Power.

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                Shit, that is a green looking squad. Most of those backs probably call Weber Koro.

                It's also a lot more local than was expected from the lead up. No relatively big name signings to fill out the team.

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                @nepia said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

                Shit, that is a green looking squad. Most of those backs probably call Weber Koro.

                It's also a lot more local than was expected from the lead up. No relatively big name signings to fill out the team.

                Yes, 7 players were still at school last year; 4 players were still at school in 2016.
                This must be the youngest and most inexperienced team we've ever had, or at least for a long time.
                Sheesh, Ozich better be a hell of a coach or we'll "win" the wooden spoon.

                8 players are 2018 imports.
                Of last year's imports (fewer than this year), only Dunn is still in the squad.

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  @nepia said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

                  Shit, that is a green looking squad. Most of those backs probably call Weber Koro.

                  It's also a lot more local than was expected from the lead up. No relatively big name signings to fill out the team.

                  Yes, 7 players were still at school last year; 4 players were still at school in 2016.
                  This must be the youngest and most inexperienced team we've ever had, or at least for a long time.
                  Sheesh, Ozich better be a hell of a coach or we'll "win" the wooden spoon.

                  8 players are 2018 imports.
                  Of last year's imports (fewer than this year), only Dunn is still in the squad.

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                  @stargazer Who are the imports?

                  Anyone keen to have a go at a top 22? I have no idea and would likely just pick all the recent schoolboys. 🙂

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @stargazer Who are the imports?

                    Anyone keen to have a go at a top 22? I have no idea and would likely just pick all the recent schoolboys. 🙂

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                    @nepia The imports in the squad are:

                    Apikotoa - Wellington
                    Funaki - BoP
                    Kaifa - Auckland
                    Power - Wellington
                    Ulufonua - Auckland
                    Ily - Wellington
                    Taulagi - Sunwolves
                    Tofilau - Auckland

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                      Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                      The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

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                        Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                        The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

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                        #69

                        @number-10 We disagree about this. IMO playing one season (some only half a season or less) of club rugby after being invited to come to the Bay (or coming at their own initiative after not making the WTG squad of their "old" province or getting little game time last year) doesn't make them local players in my book.

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @nepia The imports in the squad are:

                          Apikotoa - Wellington
                          Funaki - BoP
                          Kaifa - Auckland
                          Power - Wellington
                          Ulufonua - Auckland
                          Ily - Wellington
                          Taulagi - Sunwolves
                          Tofilau - Auckland

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                          @stargazer Stacey Ili was playing in Auckland (Manukau Rovers) earlier this year.

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                            Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                            The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

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                            @number-10 said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

                            Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                            The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

                            Those are decent additions to the named squad (obviously apologies to Higgins and his war on Ben May 😉 )!

                            Sadly no McNicol which would have helped solidify the backline.

                            Also, why wasn't BBBR named? All the other squads name their ABs don't they?

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                              @stargazer Stacey Ili was playing in Auckland (Manukau Rovers) earlier this year.

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                              @tim Cheers, I must have confused him with his brother who plays basketball for Wellington.

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                @number-10 said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

                                Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                                The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

                                Those are decent additions to the named squad (obviously apologies to Higgins and his war on Ben May 😉 )!

                                Sadly no McNicol which would have helped solidify the backline.

                                Also, why wasn't BBBR named? All the other squads name their ABs don't they?

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                                @nepia I reckon they just forgot to add him to the original post; just like they initially forgot Evans, May and Devery.

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                                  What do you guys think of the forwards - backs split?

                                  Last year, there were 19 forwards (including Retallick) and 13 backs (and 4 backs - of whom 3 halfbacks - as temporary injury cover).
                                  This year, there are 24 forwards (including Retallick) and 13 backs.

                                  Have all squads more players than last year?

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                                    Lots of names I don't know but all I know is we better beat southland in round one. Can't have my Gf having bragging rights.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      What do you guys think of the forwards - backs split?

                                      Last year, there were 19 forwards (including Retallick) and 13 backs (and 4 backs - of whom 3 halfbacks - as temporary injury cover).
                                      This year, there are 24 forwards (including Retallick) and 13 backs.

                                      Have all squads more players than last year?

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                                      @stargazer The heavy leaning towards the number of forwards is probably due to the fact that last year our forward pack was usually (with injuries admittedly) outplayed. Of the two divisions (forwards/backs), that needed the greatest strengthening. Forwards dominance or parity - now there's a concept I'm sure someone, surely, must have thought of before.

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                                        hmm, no TBW. Injured or form since returning not good enough?

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                                          I dont get all the sooking about imports,what locals have really missed out?Quite a few of the locals last year were hopeless and way out of their depth. They have had a whole club season and a few trials to impress, seems like everyone had a fair chance to me.What about TBW was he unavailable or just not selected?

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