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Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup

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  • StargazerS Offline
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    From the Mitre 10 Cup launch today. I hope that Sam gets to do more than just promos this season.

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BmKaBNsHijs/

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      #61

      2018 Magpies squad:

      Michael Allardice - lock - Napier Pirate
      Joe Apikotoa - prop - Taradale
      Mark Braidwood - prop - Napier Tech
      Hannon Brighouse - flanker - Napier OB Marist
      Geoff Cridge - lock - Hastings R&S
      Jacob Devery - hooker - Hastings R&S
      Ash Dixon - hooker - Napier Tech - captain
      Gareth Evans - loose forward - Havelock North
      Tim Farrell - prop - Napier Tech
      Devan Flanders - flanker/no. 8 - Havelock North
      Solomone Funaki - loose forward - MAC
      Josh Kaifa - loose forward - Clive
      Kianu Kereru Symes - prop/hooker - Tamatea
      Jason Long - prop - Hastings R&S
      Ben May - prop - Central
      Marino Mikaele-Tu'u - loose forward - Hastings R&S
      Tom Parsons - lock - Central
      Ben Power - hooker - Havelock North
      Pouri Rakete-Stones - prop - Napier Pirate
      Fa'alemiga Selesele - loose forward - MAC
      Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe - prop - Hastings R&S
      Will Tremain - openside flanker - Napier OB Marist
      Sam Ulufonua - lock - Havelock North

      Michael Buckley - wing - Napier OB Marist
      Pasqualle Dunn - midfielder - Central
      Mason Emerson - outside back - Hastings R&S
      Folau Fakatava - halfback - Hastings R&S
      Tiaan Falcon - first five-eighth - Clive
      Stacey Ily - utility back - Napier OB Marist
      Jonah Lowe - wing - Clive
      Lincoln McClutchie - first five-eighth - Tamatea
      JJ Taulagi - outside back - Clive
      Danny Toala - fullback - Hastings R&S
      Sasa Tofilau - midfielder - Clive
      Shae Tucker - midfielder - Napier OB Marist
      Brad Weber - halfback - Napier OB Marist

      https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/videos/2310888068951921/

      I can only assume that Gareth Evans wasn't available for the team naming. Surely, he must be in the squad?
      Ben May, Brodie Retallick (although he won't play) same thing.

      Most notable omissions (compared to last year; not known to have moved somewhere else): Mason Kean, Jacob Devery (still injured?), Ellery Wilson, Sam McNicol (because of injury?)

      Edit: just confirmed on FB that indeed Ben May and Gareth Evans are also in the squad; also Jacob Devery (have added them to the list). Theyre still forgetting to mention Brodie.

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      • NepiaN Offline
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        wrote on last edited by Nepia
        #62

        Shit, that is a green looking squad. Most of those backs probably call Weber Koro.

        It's also a lot more local than was expected from the lead up. No relatively big name signings to fill out the team.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          2018 Magpies squad:

          Michael Allardice - lock - Napier Pirate
          Joe Apikotoa - prop - Taradale
          Mark Braidwood - prop - Napier Tech
          Hannon Brighouse - flanker - Napier OB Marist
          Geoff Cridge - lock - Hastings R&S
          Jacob Devery - hooker - Hastings R&S
          Ash Dixon - hooker - Napier Tech - captain
          Gareth Evans - loose forward - Havelock North
          Tim Farrell - prop - Napier Tech
          Devan Flanders - flanker/no. 8 - Havelock North
          Solomone Funaki - loose forward - MAC
          Josh Kaifa - loose forward - Clive
          Kianu Kereru Symes - prop/hooker - Tamatea
          Jason Long - prop - Hastings R&S
          Ben May - prop - Central
          Marino Mikaele-Tu'u - loose forward - Hastings R&S
          Tom Parsons - lock - Central
          Ben Power - hooker - Havelock North
          Pouri Rakete-Stones - prop - Napier Pirate
          Fa'alemiga Selesele - loose forward - MAC
          Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe - prop - Hastings R&S
          Will Tremain - openside flanker - Napier OB Marist
          Sam Ulufonua - lock - Havelock North

          Michael Buckley - wing - Napier OB Marist
          Pasqualle Dunn - midfielder - Central
          Mason Emerson - outside back - Hastings R&S
          Folau Fakatava - halfback - Hastings R&S
          Tiaan Falcon - first five-eighth - Clive
          Stacey Ily - utility back - Napier OB Marist
          Jonah Lowe - wing - Clive
          Lincoln McClutchie - first five-eighth - Tamatea
          JJ Taulagi - outside back - Clive
          Danny Toala - fullback - Hastings R&S
          Sasa Tofilau - midfielder - Clive
          Shae Tucker - midfielder - Napier OB Marist
          Brad Weber - halfback - Napier OB Marist

          https://www.facebook.com/hbmagpies/videos/2310888068951921/

          I can only assume that Gareth Evans wasn't available for the team naming. Surely, he must be in the squad?
          Ben May, Brodie Retallick (although he won't play) same thing.

          Most notable omissions (compared to last year; not known to have moved somewhere else): Mason Kean, Jacob Devery (still injured?), Ellery Wilson, Sam McNicol (because of injury?)

          Edit: just confirmed on FB that indeed Ben May and Gareth Evans are also in the squad; also Jacob Devery (have added them to the list). Theyre still forgetting to mention Brodie.

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          #63

          @stargazer

          So is Sebastian Visinia the only import that didn't make it?

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @stargazer

            So is Sebastian Visinia the only import that didn't make it?

            StargazerS Offline
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            Stargazer
            wrote on last edited by Stargazer
            #64

            @duluth No, Lui Luamanu (from Wellington) also didn't make it.

            I feel most sorry for Jacob Devery. If he hadn't had his serious injury, he could have made the NZ U20s squad this year. He came back from injury recently(?) (he played the preseason game last Saturday), but hasn't been included in the squad. His spot has gone to an import, Ben Power.

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              Shit, that is a green looking squad. Most of those backs probably call Weber Koro.

              It's also a lot more local than was expected from the lead up. No relatively big name signings to fill out the team.

              StargazerS Offline
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              #65

              @nepia said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

              Shit, that is a green looking squad. Most of those backs probably call Weber Koro.

              It's also a lot more local than was expected from the lead up. No relatively big name signings to fill out the team.

              Yes, 7 players were still at school last year; 4 players were still at school in 2016.
              This must be the youngest and most inexperienced team we've ever had, or at least for a long time.
              Sheesh, Ozich better be a hell of a coach or we'll "win" the wooden spoon.

              8 players are 2018 imports.
              Of last year's imports (fewer than this year), only Dunn is still in the squad.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @nepia said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

                Shit, that is a green looking squad. Most of those backs probably call Weber Koro.

                It's also a lot more local than was expected from the lead up. No relatively big name signings to fill out the team.

                Yes, 7 players were still at school last year; 4 players were still at school in 2016.
                This must be the youngest and most inexperienced team we've ever had, or at least for a long time.
                Sheesh, Ozich better be a hell of a coach or we'll "win" the wooden spoon.

                8 players are 2018 imports.
                Of last year's imports (fewer than this year), only Dunn is still in the squad.

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                #66

                @stargazer Who are the imports?

                Anyone keen to have a go at a top 22? I have no idea and would likely just pick all the recent schoolboys. 🙂

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  @stargazer Who are the imports?

                  Anyone keen to have a go at a top 22? I have no idea and would likely just pick all the recent schoolboys. 🙂

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                  @nepia The imports in the squad are:

                  Apikotoa - Wellington
                  Funaki - BoP
                  Kaifa - Auckland
                  Power - Wellington
                  Ulufonua - Auckland
                  Ily - Wellington
                  Taulagi - Sunwolves
                  Tofilau - Auckland

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                  • Number 10N Offline
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                    #68

                    Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                    The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

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                    • Number 10N Number 10

                      Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                      The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

                      StargazerS Offline
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                      #69

                      @number-10 We disagree about this. IMO playing one season (some only half a season or less) of club rugby after being invited to come to the Bay (or coming at their own initiative after not making the WTG squad of their "old" province or getting little game time last year) doesn't make them local players in my book.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @nepia The imports in the squad are:

                        Apikotoa - Wellington
                        Funaki - BoP
                        Kaifa - Auckland
                        Power - Wellington
                        Ulufonua - Auckland
                        Ily - Wellington
                        Taulagi - Sunwolves
                        Tofilau - Auckland

                        TimT Away
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                        Tim
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                        #70

                        @stargazer Stacey Ili was playing in Auckland (Manukau Rovers) earlier this year.

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                        • Number 10N Number 10

                          Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                          The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

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                          @number-10 said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

                          Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                          The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

                          Those are decent additions to the named squad (obviously apologies to Higgins and his war on Ben May 😉 )!

                          Sadly no McNicol which would have helped solidify the backline.

                          Also, why wasn't BBBR named? All the other squads name their ABs don't they?

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                            @stargazer Stacey Ili was playing in Auckland (Manukau Rovers) earlier this year.

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                            @tim Cheers, I must have confused him with his brother who plays basketball for Wellington.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @number-10 said in Magpies - 2018 Mitre 10 Cup:

                              Magpies facebook post also adds Ben May, Gareth Evans and Jacob Devery to the squad.

                              The only real import/signing is Stacey Ili - he played no club rugby.

                              Those are decent additions to the named squad (obviously apologies to Higgins and his war on Ben May 😉 )!

                              Sadly no McNicol which would have helped solidify the backline.

                              Also, why wasn't BBBR named? All the other squads name their ABs don't they?

                              StargazerS Offline
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                              @nepia I reckon they just forgot to add him to the original post; just like they initially forgot Evans, May and Devery.

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                                What do you guys think of the forwards - backs split?

                                Last year, there were 19 forwards (including Retallick) and 13 backs (and 4 backs - of whom 3 halfbacks - as temporary injury cover).
                                This year, there are 24 forwards (including Retallick) and 13 backs.

                                Have all squads more players than last year?

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                                  Lots of names I don't know but all I know is we better beat southland in round one. Can't have my Gf having bragging rights.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    What do you guys think of the forwards - backs split?

                                    Last year, there were 19 forwards (including Retallick) and 13 backs (and 4 backs - of whom 3 halfbacks - as temporary injury cover).
                                    This year, there are 24 forwards (including Retallick) and 13 backs.

                                    Have all squads more players than last year?

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                                    @stargazer The heavy leaning towards the number of forwards is probably due to the fact that last year our forward pack was usually (with injuries admittedly) outplayed. Of the two divisions (forwards/backs), that needed the greatest strengthening. Forwards dominance or parity - now there's a concept I'm sure someone, surely, must have thought of before.

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                                      hmm, no TBW. Injured or form since returning not good enough?

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                                        I dont get all the sooking about imports,what locals have really missed out?Quite a few of the locals last year were hopeless and way out of their depth. They have had a whole club season and a few trials to impress, seems like everyone had a fair chance to me.What about TBW was he unavailable or just not selected?

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                                          Now that I look closer, the Pirates winger Hann is not in the squad from last year. I think his debut year suffered from the players inside him more than anything, so expected he would get another crack.

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