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Blues win percentage against NZ teams

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    I'll be really surprised if they win 1 out of 5.

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    @kiwimurph that wasn't what he asked 😉

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      Pass mark is winning all the home games.

      You can’t compare to the first part of the season and accept mediocrity as the new normal. We are in a hole, a good coach will get you out of it.

      If you can’t even win your home games it’s all over.

      Mind you, I though he should have resigned after the utter embarrassment of shipping 63 points on Eden Park.

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      • KirwanK Kirwan

        Pass mark is winning all the home games.

        You can’t compare to the first part of the season and accept mediocrity as the new normal. We are in a hole, a good coach will get you out of it.

        If you can’t even win your home games it’s all over.

        Mind you, I though he should have resigned after the utter embarrassment of shipping 63 points on Eden Park.

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        @kirwan said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

        Pass mark is winning all the home games.

        You can’t compare to the first part of the season and accept mediocrity as the new normal. We are in a hole, a good coach will get you out of it.

        If you can’t even win your home games it’s all over.

        Mind you, I though he should have resigned after the utter embarrassment of shipping 63 points on Eden Park.

        I think the Blues will be like the Chiefs of Pre Rennie days. Hopeless but will beat a NZ team at the wrong time to stuff that teams chances come the pointy end.

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          Personally I don’t think it would take a hell of lot to change the Blues around ,they have shown despite all the issues they do have with question marks over the coaching and recruitment especially they have for all intensive purposes been very competitive especially in the Conference games. .can think of far too many games over past 3 x seasons that the could of and should of won..but lacked leadership and direction at crucial times.
          On the occasion they have let themselves down badly,losses away to the Lions a couple of seasons back,the last game against the Sunwolves from last year and a couple of weeks ago against the Sharks come to mind.
          But in the main,they have always been there or there abouts which suggests to me they are not that far off..

          There’s been a lot of comparisons to the Warriors,and all they have really changed is fitness and some very shrewd recruitment.
          I do believe for these changes to happen,a similar mindset has to happen not just within the coach staff but also the organisation as a whole.

          If Tana Umaga is to stay,coaching staff should get the boot,Tom Coventry should come on board as the assistant,great record with forwards.
          From a franchise piece,the Blues have got to work a lot harder to make Auckland,Harbour & Northland super strong,back load all your best talent into those unions so the talent at least stays in the franchise..,make movement around the 3 x unions easy..get some real rivalry within the 3 partners..

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            Gee that doesn't made great reading for Tana. I'd been a defender of his on the grounds that he had inherited a team in bad shape and been unlucky with the sudden emergence of the hurricanes as an elite team, as well as the not so sudden emergence of the Highlanders. But when you look at how much better Lam and Kirwan's record was then it's a lot harder to argue that he's doing the best with what he's got.

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            • S Steven Harris

              Personally I don’t think it would take a hell of lot to change the Blues around ,they have shown despite all the issues they do have with question marks over the coaching and recruitment especially they have for all intensive purposes been very competitive especially in the Conference games. .can think of far too many games over past 3 x seasons that the could of and should of won..but lacked leadership and direction at crucial times.
              On the occasion they have let themselves down badly,losses away to the Lions a couple of seasons back,the last game against the Sunwolves from last year and a couple of weeks ago against the Sharks come to mind.
              But in the main,they have always been there or there abouts which suggests to me they are not that far off..

              There’s been a lot of comparisons to the Warriors,and all they have really changed is fitness and some very shrewd recruitment.
              I do believe for these changes to happen,a similar mindset has to happen not just within the coach staff but also the organisation as a whole.

              If Tana Umaga is to stay,coaching staff should get the boot,Tom Coventry should come on board as the assistant,great record with forwards.
              From a franchise piece,the Blues have got to work a lot harder to make Auckland,Harbour & Northland super strong,back load all your best talent into those unions so the talent at least stays in the franchise..,make movement around the 3 x unions easy..get some real rivalry within the 3 partners..

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              @steven-harris said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

              If Tana Umaga is to stay,coaching staff should get the boot,Tom Coventry should come on board as the assistant,great record with forwards.

              The coaching staff Umaga picked..

              I would be fine with Coventry taking over as head coach and appointing his own assistants. The Blues seem to be in a similar position to where Harbour was a couple of years ago. Jackson had made changes at NH but made no progress in terms of results. Coventry followed Jackson and completed the job

              Or Pivac. I have to throw that name in there. I've been calling for him to coach the Blues for 15 years on here.. One day someone might listen to me

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @steven-harris said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                If Tana Umaga is to stay,coaching staff should get the boot,Tom Coventry should come on board as the assistant,great record with forwards.

                The coaching staff Umaga picked..

                I would be fine with Coventry taking over as head coach and appointing his own assistants. The Blues seem to be in a similar position to where Harbour was a couple of years ago. Jackson had made changes at NH but made no progress in terms of results. Coventry followed Jackson and completed the job

                Or Pivac. I have to throw that name in there. I've been calling for him to coach the Blues for 15 years on here.. One day someone might listen to me

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                @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                Jackson had made changes at NH but made no progress in terms of results

                To be fair to Jackson, he took them from easy beats of the Championship to the Premiership competition.

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                • TimT Tim

                  @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                  Jackson had made changes at NH but made no progress in terms of results

                  To be fair to Jackson, he took them from easy beats of the Championship to the Premiership competition.

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                  @tim

                  Correct, my mistake. I thought Coventry had been there two years

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @tim

                    Correct, my mistake. I thought Coventry had been there two years

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                    @duluth Coventry has really taken them a step forward again though. They were one of the top 3 teams in the Mitre 10 Cup last year.

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                    • HoorooH Hooroo

                      @kirwan said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                      Pass mark is winning all the home games.

                      You can’t compare to the first part of the season and accept mediocrity as the new normal. We are in a hole, a good coach will get you out of it.

                      If you can’t even win your home games it’s all over.

                      Mind you, I though he should have resigned after the utter embarrassment of shipping 63 points on Eden Park.

                      I think the Blues will be like the Chiefs of Pre Rennie days. Hopeless but will beat a NZ team at the wrong time to stuff that teams chances come the pointy end.

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                      @hooroo said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                      @kirwan said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                      Pass mark is winning all the home games.

                      You can’t compare to the first part of the season and accept mediocrity as the new normal. We are in a hole, a good coach will get you out of it.

                      If you can’t even win your home games it’s all over.

                      Mind you, I though he should have resigned after the utter embarrassment of shipping 63 points on Eden Park.

                      I think the Blues will be like the Chiefs of Pre Rennie days. Hopeless but will beat a NZ team at the wrong time to stuff that teams chances come the pointy end.

                      we were the kings of coming home with a wet sail. Played awesome open footy when the pressure of actually getting something out of the season was off. Foster was the master of it.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        @hooroo said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                        @kirwan said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                        Pass mark is winning all the home games.

                        You can’t compare to the first part of the season and accept mediocrity as the new normal. We are in a hole, a good coach will get you out of it.

                        If you can’t even win your home games it’s all over.

                        Mind you, I though he should have resigned after the utter embarrassment of shipping 63 points on Eden Park.

                        I think the Blues will be like the Chiefs of Pre Rennie days. Hopeless but will beat a NZ team at the wrong time to stuff that teams chances come the pointy end.

                        we were the kings of coming home with a wet sail. Played awesome open footy when the pressure of actually getting something out of the season was off. Foster was the master of it.

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                        @mariner4life

                        What changed? How fast did it change?

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @mariner4life

                          What changed? How fast did it change?

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                          @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                          @mariner4life

                          What changed? How fast did it change?

                          New coach seemed to help, along with have a super AB coach to pull the strings too

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                          • HoorooH Hooroo

                            @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                            @mariner4life

                            What changed? How fast did it change?

                            New coach seemed to help, along with have a super AB coach to pull the strings too

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                            @hooroo

                            Yes, that did seem to help

                            One year was it?

                            Because I was told to judge Tana after three years.. we're almost at three years now.. now I'm told Tana should get another 2 years added to his contract

                            The strange thing is I can't find a Blues fan that wants that

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                            • HoorooH Hooroo

                              @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                              @mariner4life

                              What changed? How fast did it change?

                              New coach seemed to help, along with have a super AB coach to pull the strings too

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                              @hooroo said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                              @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                              @mariner4life

                              What changed? How fast did it change?

                              New coach seemed to help, along with have a super AB coach to pull the strings too

                              And the recruitment of an 1st five totally suited to carving up at Super level. Plus Brodie breaking out about then, plus Cane.

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @hooroo

                                Yes, that did seem to help

                                One year was it?

                                Because I was told to judge Tana after three years.. we're almost at three years now.. now I'm told Tana should get another 2 years added to his contract

                                The strange thing is I can't find a Blues fan that wants that

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                                @duluth 3 years is more than enough time to stamp your mark on coaching, recruitment, culture etc.

                                I wonder if there is any evidence that a coach has managed to turn things around after 3 years of rubbish?

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                                • gt12G gt12

                                  @hooroo said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                  @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                  @mariner4life

                                  What changed? How fast did it change?

                                  New coach seemed to help, along with have a super AB coach to pull the strings too

                                  And the recruitment of an 1st five totally suited to carving up at Super level. Plus Brodie breaking out about then, plus Cane.

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                                  @gt12

                                  Sure, good recruitment and a coaching environment that allowed players to flourish. I'm not convinced the Blues prospects are getting good instruction

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @hooroo

                                    Yes, that did seem to help

                                    One year was it?

                                    Because I was told to judge Tana after three years.. we're almost at three years now.. now I'm told Tana should get another 2 years added to his contract

                                    The strange thing is I can't find a Blues fan that wants that

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                                    @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                    @hooroo

                                    Yes, that did seem to help

                                    One year was it?

                                    Because I was told to judge Tana after three years.. we're almost at three years now.. now I'm told Tana should get another 2 years added to his contract

                                    The strange thing is I can't find a Blues fan that wants that

                                    Yes and also Razor did it in his first year too!

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @mariner4life

                                      What changed? How fast did it change?

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                                      @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                      @mariner4life

                                      What changed? How fast did it change?

                                      really fucking quick actually. And Facebook reminded me the other week, thanks to the memory functions. Rennie came on board, and the first week looked the fucking same as ever, ropey defense, shithouse set piece, headless play.

                                      The next memory was two weeks later, and all of those things had turned around. The cornerstones of decent rugby appeared (after years of neglect), and it allowed our heads-up attack to flourish. And we won back to back comps.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                        @mariner4life

                                        What changed? How fast did it change?

                                        really fucking quick actually. And Facebook reminded me the other week, thanks to the memory functions. Rennie came on board, and the first week looked the fucking same as ever, ropey defense, shithouse set piece, headless play.

                                        The next memory was two weeks later, and all of those things had turned around. The cornerstones of decent rugby appeared (after years of neglect), and it allowed our heads-up attack to flourish. And we won back to back comps.

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                                        @mariner4life said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                        @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                        @mariner4life

                                        What changed? How fast did it change?

                                        really fucking quick actually. And Facebook reminded me the other week, thanks to the memory functions. Rennie came on board, and the first week looked the fucking same as ever, ropey defense, shithouse set piece, headless play.

                                        The next memory was two weeks later, and all of those things had turned around. The cornerstones of decent rugby appeared (after years of neglect), and it allowed our heads-up attack to flourish. And we won back to back comps.

                                        aaahhhh goood times

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                                        • HoorooH Hooroo

                                          @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                          @mariner4life

                                          What changed? How fast did it change?

                                          New coach seemed to help, along with have a super AB coach to pull the strings too

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                                          @hooroo said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                          @duluth said in Blues win percentage against NZ teams:

                                          @mariner4life

                                          What changed? How fast did it change?

                                          New coach seemed to help, along with have a super AB coach to pull the strings too

                                          I'm sure Auckland would look miles better with an All Black first five-eighth and Wayne Smith as assistant.

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