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  • No QuarterN Offline
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    Yeah as above there's still a significant number of people that don't yet have UFB. I do now, and streaming is much more reliable so from that POV I will be OK, but a lot won't.

    I also have concerns over whether Sparks servers will handle the load especially during the big games. I'm sure they've done capacity planning/testing but it's not always easy to predict how the systems will perform on the day, and obviously any issue at all that causes a delay in the stream will be a massive deal. There will be some pretty nervous Spark technicians and execs on the day... πŸ™‚

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      Yeah as above there's still a significant number of people that don't yet have UFB. I do now, and streaming is much more reliable so from that POV I will be OK, but a lot won't.

      I also have concerns over whether Sparks servers will handle the load especially during the big games. I'm sure they've done capacity planning/testing but it's not always easy to predict how the systems will perform on the day, and obviously any issue at all that causes a delay in the stream will be a massive deal. There will be some pretty nervous Spark technicians and execs on the day... πŸ™‚

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      @No-Quarter said in [And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...]

      I also have concerns over whether Sparks servers will handle the load especially during the big games. I'm sure they've done capacity planning/testing but it's not always easy to predict how the systems will perform on the day, and obviously any issue at all that causes a delay in the stream will be a massive deal. There will be some pretty nervous Spark technicians and execs on the day... πŸ™‚

      I would assume they aren't using their own servers?

      The live pictures and commentary will come down from Japan by fibre and satellite to TVNZ in Auckland (TVNZ is handling all the production for Spark), then up to the West Coast of the USA to be turned into a 'stream' before being sent back to New Zealand.

      Surely that step to the USA is about renting capacity from an Amazon or a Google server farm? Then they can increase capacity pretty quickly to match the demand

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @No-Quarter said in [And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...]

        I also have concerns over whether Sparks servers will handle the load especially during the big games. I'm sure they've done capacity planning/testing but it's not always easy to predict how the systems will perform on the day, and obviously any issue at all that causes a delay in the stream will be a massive deal. There will be some pretty nervous Spark technicians and execs on the day... πŸ™‚

        I would assume they aren't using their own servers?

        The live pictures and commentary will come down from Japan by fibre and satellite to TVNZ in Auckland (TVNZ is handling all the production for Spark), then up to the West Coast of the USA to be turned into a 'stream' before being sent back to New Zealand.

        Surely that step to the USA is about renting capacity from an Amazon or a Google server farm? Then they can increase capacity pretty quickly to match the demand

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        @Duluth said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

        @No-Quarter said in [And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...]

        I also have concerns over whether Sparks servers will handle the load especially during the big games. I'm sure they've done capacity planning/testing but it's not always easy to predict how the systems will perform on the day, and obviously any issue at all that causes a delay in the stream will be a massive deal. There will be some pretty nervous Spark technicians and execs on the day... πŸ™‚

        I would assume they aren't using their own servers?

        The live pictures and commentary will come down from Japan by fibre and satellite to TVNZ in Auckland (TVNZ is handling all the production for Spark), then up to the West Coast of the USA to be turned into a 'stream' before being sent back to New Zealand.

        Surely that step to the USA is about renting capacity from an Amazon or a Google server farm? Then they can increase capacity pretty quickly to match the demand

        I was wondering why the US step, that would explain it. In the context of the big cloud providers, serving a stream to NZ (even if everyone in the country is watching) would be small fry.

        I wonder if spark have plans to invest in local server capacity if spark sport goes well.

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @No-Quarter said in [And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...]

          I also have concerns over whether Sparks servers will handle the load especially during the big games. I'm sure they've done capacity planning/testing but it's not always easy to predict how the systems will perform on the day, and obviously any issue at all that causes a delay in the stream will be a massive deal. There will be some pretty nervous Spark technicians and execs on the day... πŸ™‚

          I would assume they aren't using their own servers?

          The live pictures and commentary will come down from Japan by fibre and satellite to TVNZ in Auckland (TVNZ is handling all the production for Spark), then up to the West Coast of the USA to be turned into a 'stream' before being sent back to New Zealand.

          Surely that step to the USA is about renting capacity from an Amazon or a Google server farm? Then they can increase capacity pretty quickly to match the demand

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          @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

          Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

            Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

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            @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

            @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

            Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

            Shouldn't be a problem. Stream running from Japan straight into Sydney (AJC) and then there's two cables from Sydney to New Zealand for Spark - one into Raglan (TGA) and another into Whenuapai (SCCM).

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

              @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

              Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

              Shouldn't be a problem. Stream running from Japan straight into Sydney (AJC) and then there's two cables from Sydney to New Zealand for Spark - one into Raglan (TGA) and another into Whenuapai (SCCM).

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              @antipodean said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

              @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

              @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

              Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

              Shouldn't be a problem. Stream running from Japan straight into Sydney (AJC) and then there's two cables from Sydney to New Zealand for Spark - one into Raglan (TGA) and another into Whenuapai (SCCM).

              Far out, look at the big brain on Brad!

              seriously though, what do the acronyms actually mean (AJC TGA SCCM)?

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @antipodean said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

                Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

                Shouldn't be a problem. Stream running from Japan straight into Sydney (AJC) and then there's two cables from Sydney to New Zealand for Spark - one into Raglan (TGA) and another into Whenuapai (SCCM).

                Far out, look at the big brain on Brad!

                seriously though, what do the acronyms actually mean (AJC TGA SCCM)?

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                @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                @antipodean said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

                Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

                Shouldn't be a problem. Stream running from Japan straight into Sydney (AJC) and then there's two cables from Sydney to New Zealand for Spark - one into Raglan (TGA) and another into Whenuapai (SCCM).

                Far out, look at the big brain on Brad!

                seriously though, what do the acronyms actually mean (AJC TGA SCCM)?

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @antipodean said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                  @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                  @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

                  Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

                  Shouldn't be a problem. Stream running from Japan straight into Sydney (AJC) and then there's two cables from Sydney to New Zealand for Spark - one into Raglan (TGA) and another into Whenuapai (SCCM).

                  Far out, look at the big brain on Brad!

                  seriously though, what do the acronyms actually mean (AJC TGA SCCM)?

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                  @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                  @antipodean said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                  @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                  @Duluth they said in that article they are planning for up to 500,000 streams.

                  Will be interesting to see if they fail though, streaming into NZ could be challenging.

                  Shouldn't be a problem. Stream running from Japan straight into Sydney (AJC) and then there's two cables from Sydney to New Zealand for Spark - one into Raglan (TGA) and another into Whenuapai (SCCM).

                  Far out, look at the big brain on Brad!

                  seriously though, what do the acronyms actually mean (AJC TGA SCCM)?

                  Australia-Japan Cable, Ta$man Global Access and Southern Cross Cable Network .

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                  • SnowyS Offline
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                    @Bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                    A lot of the rural areas don't have UFB, or even reliable fibre, so streaming won't be an option.

                    I've bought the RWC package but I am not confident it will work well. They still don't have an Apple TV app.

                    Our internet isn't great and we don't even have a sealed road FFS (50+ houses). I chose to have some land and live in the sticks, but parts of NZ are seriously behind the times. I need a horse.

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                    • SnowyS Snowy

                      @Bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                      A lot of the rural areas don't have UFB, or even reliable fibre, so streaming won't be an option.

                      I've bought the RWC package but I am not confident it will work well. They still don't have an Apple TV app.

                      Our internet isn't great and we don't even have a sealed road FFS (50+ houses). I chose to have some land and live in the sticks, but parts of NZ are seriously behind the times. I need a horse.

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                      @Snowy said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                      @Bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                      A lot of the rural areas don't have UFB, or even reliable fibre, so streaming won't be an option.

                      I've bought the RWC package but I am not confident it will work well. They still don't have an Apple TV app.

                      Our internet isn't great and we don't even have a sealed road FFS (50+ houses). I chose to have some land and live in the sticks, but parts of NZ are seriously behind the times. I need a horse.

                      https://twitter.com/madhukishwar/status/1142978945349849088

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                      • JCJ JC

                        @Snowy said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                        @Bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                        A lot of the rural areas don't have UFB, or even reliable fibre, so streaming won't be an option.

                        I've bought the RWC package but I am not confident it will work well. They still don't have an Apple TV app.

                        Our internet isn't great and we don't even have a sealed road FFS (50+ houses). I chose to have some land and live in the sticks, but parts of NZ are seriously behind the times. I need a horse.

                        https://twitter.com/madhukishwar/status/1142978945349849088

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                        @JC Yeah I had seen that thanks. I have enough morons in my life and a horse would be a step up in intelligence, and ease of transport given the roads around here - which was the point - along with internet speeds and rural NZ being neglected.

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @No-Quarter said in [And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...]

                          I also have concerns over whether Sparks servers will handle the load especially during the big games. I'm sure they've done capacity planning/testing but it's not always easy to predict how the systems will perform on the day, and obviously any issue at all that causes a delay in the stream will be a massive deal. There will be some pretty nervous Spark technicians and execs on the day... πŸ™‚

                          I would assume they aren't using their own servers?

                          The live pictures and commentary will come down from Japan by fibre and satellite to TVNZ in Auckland (TVNZ is handling all the production for Spark), then up to the West Coast of the USA to be turned into a 'stream' before being sent back to New Zealand.

                          Surely that step to the USA is about renting capacity from an Amazon or a Google server farm? Then they can increase capacity pretty quickly to match the demand

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                          @Duluth said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                          @No-Quarter said in [And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...]

                          I also have concerns over whether Sparks servers will handle the load especially during the big games. I'm sure they've done capacity planning/testing but it's not always easy to predict how the systems will perform on the day, and obviously any issue at all that causes a delay in the stream will be a massive deal. There will be some pretty nervous Spark technicians and execs on the day... πŸ™‚

                          I would assume they aren't using their own servers?

                          The live pictures and commentary will come down from Japan by fibre and satellite to TVNZ in Auckland (TVNZ is handling all the production for Spark), then up to the West Coast of the USA to be turned into a 'stream' before being sent back to New Zealand.

                          Surely that step to the USA is about renting capacity from an Amazon or a Google server farm? Then they can increase capacity pretty quickly to match the demand

                          That makes sense. So most likely they'll be dealing with a multitude of complaints from hillbillies like @Snowy that are outside of their control; I don't envy their Help Desk!

                          Don't get me wrong though, I do like the idea and streaming is definitely the future of TV. It's just a pretty risky endeavor, I would have waited to the next WC when fibre is more widespread.

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                            As a side note, for the cricket world cup, Sky is the broadcaster over here. However, they've announced that if England make the final, it will be free on terrestrial TV.

                            That is shithouse from a revenue point of view, but absolutely outstanding from pretty much so all others.

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                            • SnowyS Snowy

                              @Bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                              A lot of the rural areas don't have UFB, or even reliable fibre, so streaming won't be an option.

                              I've bought the RWC package but I am not confident it will work well. They still don't have an Apple TV app.

                              Our internet isn't great and we don't even have a sealed road FFS (50+ houses). I chose to have some land and live in the sticks, but parts of NZ are seriously behind the times. I need a horse.

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                              @Snowy said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                              @Bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                              A lot of the rural areas don't have UFB, or even reliable fibre, so streaming won't be an option.

                              I've bought the RWC package but I am not confident it will work well. They still don't have an Apple TV app.

                              Our internet isn't great and we don't even have a sealed road FFS (50+ houses). I chose to have some land and live in the sticks, but parts of NZ are seriously behind the times. I need a horse.

                              Check your Apple TV later this week πŸ˜‰

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                              • WurzelW Wurzel

                                @Snowy said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                @Bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                A lot of the rural areas don't have UFB, or even reliable fibre, so streaming won't be an option.

                                I've bought the RWC package but I am not confident it will work well. They still don't have an Apple TV app.

                                Our internet isn't great and we don't even have a sealed road FFS (50+ houses). I chose to have some land and live in the sticks, but parts of NZ are seriously behind the times. I need a horse.

                                Check your Apple TV later this week πŸ˜‰

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                                @Wurzel said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                Check your Apple TV later this week πŸ˜‰

                                About time. June went without any comment.

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                                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                                  As a side note, for the cricket world cup, Sky is the broadcaster over here. However, they've announced that if England make the final, it will be free on terrestrial TV.

                                  That is shithouse from a revenue point of view, but absolutely outstanding from pretty much so all others.

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                                  @MajorRage said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                  As a side note, for the cricket world cup, Sky is the broadcaster over here. However, they've announced that if England make the final, it will be free on terrestrial TV.

                                  That is shithouse from a revenue point of view, but absolutely outstanding from pretty much so all others.

                                  On that note, I think the coverage has been bloody excellent - the graphics especially.

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                                    Good for Santner. Timed that brilliantly - as good a shot as I've seen from him

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                                      Good for Santner. Timed that brilliantly - as good a shot as I've seen from him

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                                      @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                      Good for Santner. Timed that brilliantly - as good a shot as I've seen from him

                                      ^^^^ My fault. Sorry everyone

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                                      • nzzpN nzzp

                                        @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                        Good for Santner. Timed that brilliantly - as good a shot as I've seen from him

                                        ^^^^ My fault. Sorry everyone

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                                        @nzzp it was a great Blackcaps win, might as well bring it to all other threads

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                          Good for Santner. Timed that brilliantly - as good a shot as I've seen from him

                                          ^^^^ My fault. Sorry everyone

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                                          @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                          @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                          Good for Santner. Timed that brilliantly - as good a shot as I've seen from him

                                          ^^^^ My fault. Sorry everyone

                                          I'm expecting at least one post here from you in this thread to kick off the final also.

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