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Chris B.

@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

@akan004 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

Spurious correlations gives me this:

Potentially, a lot of those drownings could be intentional - after watching movies.

Some Nicholas Cage films I've seen it wouldn't surprise me!

JC

@chris-b Yep, quite the spike after Captain Corelli's Mandolin.

taniwharugby

@jc only good thing about that movie is that I have been to many of the set locations on Kefalonia, by all accounts, Cage was not well received by locals, buying a house and building big f-off walls around it to stop anyone looking at him....

Tim

@nzzp I blame Leaving Las Vegas.

Stargazer

Quinn said he felt TVNZ was well placed to handle the commentary aspects of World Cup coverage.

TVNZ would have no problems "as they will send their own people for significant New Zealand matches," he said

Quinn had no insights into who "those people" might be, nor would he comment on his own availability for the tournament.

On Sunday, Andrew Saville and veteran John McBeth did the commentaries for the men's and women's sevens finals at the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games.

Both would likely be firmly in the mix for Japan. Saville is an experienced match caller, while McBeth was New Zealand's leading radio rugby commentator for 10 years, before taking the leading rugby role at TVNZ.

Scheduling means TVNZ could not cover every game, so it was likely the World Commentary Team (WTC) feed would be taken for non-New Zealand games, Quinn said.

Sky TV used the WTC in the past to bolster core commentators Grant Nisbett, Tony Johnson and Justin Marshall at the 2015 Cup.

Those three and others - such as the high-profile Scotty Stevenson - contracted to Sky would seem to be not an option for TVNZ.

Nor would TVNZ want to use them, as they would be intent on stamping their own brand on the Cup coverage.

Contracts dependent, it is possible sevens specialist Karl Te Nana, experienced Radio Sport caller Nigel Yalden and Willie Lose, who has played rugby in Japan, might be available to TVNZ.

Former Chiefs and All Blacks No 8 Steven Bates is another media-experienced former player who has played rugby in Japan, so has a valuable understanding of the local culture, and local rugby culture.

WTC commentators are contracted by World Rugby to ensure all games have quality commentators.

They operate under guidelines which mean they must make games sound exciting, without exhibiting a national bias.

Quinn, Johnson and Te Nana have all called games for the WTC

Quinn also commentated to a worldwide audience at the Rio Olympics two years ago, when he called the sevens for the Olympic Broadcasting Service - essentially the Olympic Games version of the WTC.

He expected New Zealanders to be happy with the WTC callers, which featured the likes of Australian Gordon Bray, Welshman Eddie Butler, and Englishmen Miles Harrison and Ben Gollings.

"There will be a lot of familiar voices for New Zealand viewers," Quinn said.

"Some of the South African callers, and some of the British names like Miles Harrison and Eddie Butler, will be known."

WTC will fly commentators to Japan, pay their accommodation, and give them a fee. In exchange WTC controls what they are able to say.

No WTC broadcaster would criticise aspects of the way the tournament was run, or its infrastructure.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/103142297/world-cup-commentators-will-be-familiar-voices-to-kiwis-doyen-keith-quinn-says

taniwharugby

Yealden is a great radio commentator, but not sure his 'style' would go down well on TV comms...?

Is Merhts contracted to anyone, I thought Kronfeld was decent in 2011 as well, wonder if they would try to get someone like Wayne SMith to do it, assume they will look at McCaw too?

Being analytical and knowledgable is one thing, but being able to commentate is another completely.

@Steven-Harris send them your CV bro

edit - wonder if Glen Osbourne or Eric Rush would be keen

mariner4life

Reiko! oh! oh!

Mokey

Oh god. Not Quinn and McBeth. Please.

nzzp

@taniwharugby said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

Yealden is a great radio commentator, but not sure his 'style' would go down well on TV comms...?

Yeah, not my bag at all. Listening to him in the car at the weekend, and find his enthusiasm grating. Still, some people like him (excluding me and Mrs NZZP, who described him as a muppet)

Nepia

Isn't this what the fern has been asking for? Breaking Sky's stronghold in sports broadcasting? This thread seems a bit complainy considering.

Chris B.

Just watched a few Simon Moutter soundbites on TV3 News.

"At the end of the day there's a lot more Kiwis have a good broadband connection than a Sky dish".

Yeah - but, everyone can choose to have a Sky dish, Simon - and I'd guess a decent majority of ardent rugby fans have one. We're reliant on the fucking telecommunications industry to deliver us decent Broadband.
He came across as a smug piston wristed gibbon IMO!

Let's hope Quinn's thoughts on commentators aren't on the money - 1980s broadcasters targeting millennials ambivalent about rugby - how could it possibly fail!

hydro11

People might pay for the Rugby World Cup but Spark/TVNZ are dreaming if they think people will pay extra to stream the u-20's or the Women's World Cup.

jegga

Quinn .... no ffs no.

I cringe remembering him commentating the first game of the 2003 rwc with Jeff Wilson . “ and there’s George Gregan , I bet you still think about that tackle don’t you Jeff?” Or something along those lines.

Bones

@jegga said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

Quinn .... no ffs no.

I cringe remembering him commentating the first game of the 2003 rwc with Jeff Wilson . “ and there’s George Gregan , I bet you still think about that tackle don’t you Jeff?” Or something along those lines.

Not a fan of Gregan's tackle?

jegga

@bones said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

@jegga said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

Quinn .... no ffs no.

I cringe remembering him commentating the first game of the 2003 rwc with Jeff Wilson . “ and there’s George Gregan , I bet you still think about that tackle don’t you Jeff?” Or something along those lines.

Not a fan of Gregan's tackle?

Yeah nah. Jeff isn’t apparently either having been in the receiving end of it.

Bones

@jegga said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

@bones said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

@jegga said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

Quinn .... no ffs no.

I cringe remembering him commentating the first game of the 2003 rwc with Jeff Wilson . “ and there’s George Gregan , I bet you still think about that tackle don’t you Jeff?” Or something along those lines.

Not a fan of Gregan's tackle?

Yeah nah. Jeff isn’t apparently either having been in the receiving end of it.

You're doing it wrong.

jegga

@bones said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

@jegga said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

@bones said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

@jegga said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

Quinn .... no ffs no.

I cringe remembering him commentating the first game of the 2003 rwc with Jeff Wilson . “ and there’s George Gregan , I bet you still think about that tackle don’t you Jeff?” Or something along those lines.

Not a fan of Gregan's tackle?

Yeah nah. Jeff isn’t apparently either having been in the receiving end of it.

You're doing it wrong.

Never heard of docking?

Bones

@jegga Well I did get School Cert Agriculture...

Chris B.

@jegga said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

Quinn .... no ffs no.

Quinn is in his early 70s.

I think the worst we'll have to suffer from him is a few funeral insurance ads.

Donsteppa

@nepia said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

Isn't this what the fern has been asking for? Breaking Sky's stronghold in sports broadcasting? This thread seems a bit complainy considering.

We want more sport, conveniently, and all at a much smaller price. Now get off my lawn

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