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  • CrucialC Crucial

    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

    @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

    My understanding is that the whole point of spending big money on the RWC is to drive as many people as possible to moving to internet based sports. This will drive more people to upgrading their internet and although not all people will go with Spark, many will.

    Yeah - there's no doubt about that. And it is fair enough.

    However, the flip side of the coin is, on currently announced policy, Spark is making a commercial decision to not let a reasonable chunk of the country watch RWC in their own homes - even though the pop-up channel is available with the push of a button. So I think if I was completing one of those corporate surveys today about "Spark cares about its customers", I'm currently marking them zero - and I think that is fair and accurate.

    On the technical side of things, it doesn't need to be an exact science. If someone applies from central Auckland where they know download speeds are several hundred mbs then send them the instructions for how to sign up to streaming.

    If someone applies from five kms out of town and it's "I would have thought they'd be able to stream it", what does it really matter if they're at the margins and get to watch the pop-up channel? Spark still gets their money. I guess they could say send us a screen shot of your Ookla speed test. 🙂

    I don't disagree with the sentiment of that at all. However it is doubtful that the pop up channel is available selectively at 'a push of a button'. My understanding is that they have made it available to a group of customers easily targeted by package. Changing the available channels by package is probably simple. Making it available by subscriber number more so. Not impossible but a purchased channel launch involves a fair bit more system configuration an testing than just pushing a button. Spark would have to want to reimburse Sky for that system work which is starting to push things a fair bit. The other question is the customer contact and identification work before determining eligibility. Again not impossible but involves scripts/training/escalation processes etc.
    Spark have made a financial decision taking into account the customers they will likely piss off. These are also likely to very low yield customers in the first place.

    If you want to blame anyone blame the NZRU for allowing the awarding of rights to a streaming service in the first place

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    @Crucial I think WR sold the broadcasting rights not NZR.

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      @Crucial Don't know the ins and outs of the pop-up channels - but, Sky seems to have them happening all the time.

      If it's not already part of the plan though it won't be easy to start implementing the process from now.

      However, I think I've at least grasped the meaning of Spark's current slogan - "A little number of people who are hugely pissed off!" 🙂

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      @Chris-B said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

      @Crucial Don't know the ins and outs of the pop-up channels - but, Sky seems to have them happening all the time.

      If it's not already part of the plan though it won't be easy to start implementing the process from now.

      However, I think I've at least grasped the meaning of Spark's current slogan - "A little number of people who are hugely pissed off!" 🙂

      But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

      You could probably add "A huge number of people a little pissed off!" as well

      @Bovidae Yes it was a RWC ultimate decision but based on factors such as bid amount, ability to deliver, coverage etc. I have no doubt that the NZRU had input into the decision. Maybe they had reservations and told RWC but they have never really worried about the broadcasting except for $

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Chris-B said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

        @Crucial Don't know the ins and outs of the pop-up channels - but, Sky seems to have them happening all the time.

        If it's not already part of the plan though it won't be easy to start implementing the process from now.

        However, I think I've at least grasped the meaning of Spark's current slogan - "A little number of people who are hugely pissed off!" 🙂

        But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

        You could probably add "A huge number of people a little pissed off!" as well

        @Bovidae Yes it was a RWC ultimate decision but based on factors such as bid amount, ability to deliver, coverage etc. I have no doubt that the NZRU had input into the decision. Maybe they had reservations and told RWC but they have never really worried about the broadcasting except for $

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        @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

        But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

        There is a pay per view channel..

        Content enabled on an account by account basis

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

          But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

          There is a pay per view channel..

          Content enabled on an account by account basis

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          @Duluth said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

          @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

          But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

          There is a pay per view channel..

          Content enabled on an account by account basis

          Yeah - and I guess that's pretty much what I'm talking about.

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

            But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

            There is a pay per view channel..

            Content enabled on an account by account basis

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            @Duluth said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

            @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

            But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

            There is a pay per view channel..

            Content enabled on an account by account basis

            True. I forgot all about the PPV set up. I guess that just leaves the 'qualification' process for giving away a freebie.
            They really don't want to go down that path though. It opens up way too much. I'd imagine plenty of customers trying it on to qualify or complaints if turned down etc

            Their compromise is to provide a free feed to schools (all schools have fibre) and have locals organise something at the school hall or the sky pub feed.

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            • CrucialC Crucial

              @Duluth said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

              @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

              But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

              There is a pay per view channel..

              Content enabled on an account by account basis

              True. I forgot all about the PPV set up. I guess that just leaves the 'qualification' process for giving away a freebie.
              They really don't want to go down that path though. It opens up way too much. I'd imagine plenty of customers trying it on to qualify or complaints if turned down etc

              Their compromise is to provide a free feed to schools (all schools have fibre) and have locals organise something at the school hall or the sky pub feed.

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              Most people will want to watch the matches in the convenience of their own homes, so any "solution" that requires them to go somewhere else late at night will still be criticised.

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              • CrucialC Crucial

                @Duluth said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                But aren't you talking about a pop up on a subscriber by subscriber basis? Not a general package inclusion? That's the bit that is more difficult unless they can utilise an existing set up such as rugby channel.

                There is a pay per view channel..

                Content enabled on an account by account basis

                True. I forgot all about the PPV set up. I guess that just leaves the 'qualification' process for giving away a freebie.
                They really don't want to go down that path though. It opens up way too much. I'd imagine plenty of customers trying it on to qualify or complaints if turned down etc

                Their compromise is to provide a free feed to schools (all schools have fibre) and have locals organise something at the school hall or the sky pub feed.

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                @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                @Duluth said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                Their compromise is to provide a free feed to schools (all schools have fibre) and have locals organise something at the school hall or the sky pub feed.

                One cannot watch RWC knock out matches with the wider community.

                There is far too high a risk of some cheerful fluffybunny going, "Oh well, it's only a game"!

                Let alone the ladies frowning on people who shriek, "Catch the ball you useless %$^ %&^&^ %&%^%^ &&$#& %*#@"!!! 🙂

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                  @Duluth said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                  Their compromise is to provide a free feed to schools (all schools have fibre) and have locals organise something at the school hall or the sky pub feed.

                  One cannot watch RWC knock out matches with the wider community.

                  There is far too high a risk of some cheerful fluffybunny going, "Oh well, it's only a game"!

                  Let alone the ladies frowning on people who shriek, "Catch the ball you useless %$^ %&^&^ %&%^%^ &&$#& %*#@"!!! 🙂

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                  @Chris-B said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                  @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                  @Duluth said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                  Their compromise is to provide a free feed to schools (all schools have fibre) and have locals organise something at the school hall or the sky pub feed.

                  One cannot watch RWC knock out matches with the wider community.

                  There is far too high a risk of some cheerful fluffybunny going, "Oh well, it's only a game"!

                  Let alone the ladies frowning on people who shriek, "Catch the ball you useless %$^ %&^&^ %&%^%^ &&$#& %*#@"!!! 🙂

                  At least in a pub you can blame it on the booze. And you won't be the only one screaming

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @Chris-B said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                    @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                    @Duluth said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                    Their compromise is to provide a free feed to schools (all schools have fibre) and have locals organise something at the school hall or the sky pub feed.

                    One cannot watch RWC knock out matches with the wider community.

                    There is far too high a risk of some cheerful fluffybunny going, "Oh well, it's only a game"!

                    Let alone the ladies frowning on people who shriek, "Catch the ball you useless %$^ %&^&^ %&%^%^ &&$#& %*#@"!!! 🙂

                    At least in a pub you can blame it on the booze. And you won't be the only one screaming

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                    @canefan True - although on reflection, there is yet another compelling piece of evidence....

                    Years I have watched the ABs final RWC match in the comfort of my own home - 1987, 1991, 2011, 2015

                    Years I've watched elsewhere 1995, 1999, 2003, 2007.

                    Moutter is playing with fire - that's all I'm saying...! 🙂

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                      Thought I'd check out the iPad app, I've been just using my laptop direct into my TV up until now. Fucking awesome app
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                        Thought I'd check out the iPad app, I've been just using my laptop direct into my TV up until now. Fucking awesome app
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                        @Machpants weird, it’s working well here and I’m on iOS 13 Beta so should be prone to more issues.

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                          Kill the app. Log out, log in, all good now

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                            @Canes4life said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                            If anyone wants to watch the RWC for cheap as chips, download ExpressVPN which changes your server location. Change your server location to UK and watch ITV's free online hub which will stream all the games.

                            ExpressVPN costs less than $7 U.S a month.'

                            I have Express VPN. Have you tried the hub yet? I seem to recall trying to use it while on holiday in Fiji with my VPN activated and it not working. I might try again....

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                              Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                              In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

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                                Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                                In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

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                                @Snowy said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                                In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

                                The old dilemma when the rugby is on but the missus decides that now is the time for a bit of “attention “?

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                                • SnowyS Snowy

                                  Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                                  In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

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                                  @Snowy said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                  Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                                  In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

                                  EPL is live and on demand so I think so

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @Snowy said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                    Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                                    In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

                                    The old dilemma when the rugby is on but the missus decides that now is the time for a bit of “attention “?

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                                    @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                    @Snowy said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                    Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                                    In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

                                    The old dilemma when the rugby is on but the missus decides that now is the time for a bit of “attention “?

                                    My wife isn't that stupid (although if if it's the Blues she'd probably give it a go. Likes it a bit rough I think).

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                                      @Snowy my understanding is it is on demand so you can just watch any game any time, which is a big improvement over Sky's coverage where you'd have to record every game in case you wanted to watch it later.

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        @Snowy my understanding is it is on demand so you can just watch any game any time, which is a big improvement over Sky's coverage where you'd have to record every game in case you wanted to watch it later.

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                                        @No-Quarter said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                        @Snowy my understanding is it is on demand so you can just watch any game any time, which is a big improvement over Sky's coverage where you'd have to record every game in case you wanted to watch it later.

                                        Excellent. So there is an upside to having to pay a second provider (I've still got Sky).

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @Snowy said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                          Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                                          In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

                                          The old dilemma when the rugby is on but the missus decides that now is the time for a bit of “attention “?

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                                          @Crucial said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                          @Snowy said in [Poll] Will you use Spark to watch RWC?:

                                          Anyone know if Spark are going to have all of the matches "on demand" (full matches, not the highlights crap that sky do)?

                                          In the unlikely event that need to be doing something else when a good match is on, I won't be able to record it, so need an on demand full replay.

                                          The old dilemma when the rugby is on but the missus decides that now is the time for a bit of “attention “?

                                          No decision mate, rugby is on next week

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