Spark Sport
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@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I think it's more that our rural broadband isn't as shit as most places.
Probably not, but compared to what places? Here?
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I don't think it's enough suckage to trump some people coming in and innovating in a market dominated by a sunset player.
I would agree if they weren't taking exclusive content that is only available through them, and yet they can't provide a service that can cope with it. They are an internet provider after all and they are actually my ISP at the rural property. So they are completely to blame.
@Snowy said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I think it's more that our rural broadband isn't as shit as most places.
Probably not, but compared to what places? Here?
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I don't think it's enough suckage to trump some people coming in and innovating in a market dominated by a sunset player.
I would agree if they weren't taking exclusive content that is only available through them, and yet they can't provide a service that can cope with it. They are an internet provider after all and they are actually my ISP at the rural property. So they are completely to blame.
have you looked at rural broadband via Vodafone? Not cheap, but more speed I expect.
depending on how rural, Skinny did mobile broadband for about $50 a month too; we had Spark for a while and got good speeds.
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@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I think it's more that our rural broadband isn't as shit as most places.
Probably not, but compared to what places? Here?
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I don't think it's enough suckage to trump some people coming in and innovating in a market dominated by a sunset player.
I would agree if they weren't taking exclusive content that is only available through them, and yet they can't provide a service that can cope with it. They are an internet provider after all and they are actually my ISP at the rural property. So they are completely to blame.
@Snowy Again - me too. Spark/Telecom customer for 20 years - zero acknowledgement from them that they might have fucked the RWC for me. Let alone any discount for this fuckage - or on the price of the relatively substandard download speeds.
For all that they are trumpeting streaming as being the way of the future - they are taking me to the future via the 1970s when there were two and then three TV channels but only one was available to rural communities!
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@Snowy said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I think it's more that our rural broadband isn't as shit as most places.
Probably not, but compared to what places? Here?
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I don't think it's enough suckage to trump some people coming in and innovating in a market dominated by a sunset player.
I would agree if they weren't taking exclusive content that is only available through them, and yet they can't provide a service that can cope with it. They are an internet provider after all and they are actually my ISP at the rural property. So they are completely to blame.
have you looked at rural broadband via Vodafone? Not cheap, but more speed I expect.
depending on how rural, Skinny did mobile broadband for about $50 a month too; we had Spark for a while and got good speeds.
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@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I think it's more that our rural broadband isn't as shit as most places.
Probably not, but compared to what places? Here?
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I don't think it's enough suckage to trump some people coming in and innovating in a market dominated by a sunset player.
I would agree if they weren't taking exclusive content that is only available through them, and yet they can't provide a service that can cope with it. They are an internet provider after all and they are actually my ISP at the rural property. So they are completely to blame.
@Snowy Apparently there are some parts of rural NZ that can't get Sky. At least with Spark you don't get rain fade.
I do get that it sucks for some people but you no - greater good and all that
Add me to the cold beer and listening to the cricket club but I will still get Spark because I still like to drop in on the live view evert few overs
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@Snowy Apparently there are some parts of rural NZ that can't get Sky. At least with Spark you don't get rain fade.
I do get that it sucks for some people but you no - greater good and all that
Add me to the cold beer and listening to the cricket club but I will still get Spark because I still like to drop in on the live view evert few overs
@dogmeat said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
At least with Spark you don't get rain fade.
I honestly haven't had that for years (at 2 different properties). Out of interest where do you have to live to not get Sky. In a hole? It's fricking satellites.
Whilst I see your point that you can't have everything everywhere it certainly isn't the greater good. Possibly the lesser of two evils.
And yes I will pay as well to get the cricket, even if it isn't as good as what I already had.
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@Snowy Apparently there are some parts of rural NZ that can't get Sky. At least with Spark you don't get rain fade.
I do get that it sucks for some people but you no - greater good and all that
Add me to the cold beer and listening to the cricket club but I will still get Spark because I still like to drop in on the live view evert few overs
@dogmeat said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I do get that it sucks for some people but you no - greater good and all that
I don't believe it is for the greater good if Spark has snatched the rights so that dipshit millennials can watch it on their phones!
What? "A small white dot moves in to bowl. Another white dot flickers and apparently that is a cover drive that has pierced two other white dots and gone for four. You'll have to take my word for that."
On the plus side, I'm not too far from entering the dementia market, so I'll only need to buy a couple of cricket DVDs and I'll have forgotten they're games I've watched by Sunday when I want to watch again!
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@dogmeat said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I do get that it sucks for some people but you no - greater good and all that
I don't believe it is for the greater good if Spark has snatched the rights so that dipshit millennials can watch it on their phones!
What? "A small white dot moves in to bowl. Another white dot flickers and apparently that is a cover drive that has pierced two other white dots and gone for four. You'll have to take my word for that."
On the plus side, I'm not too far from entering the dementia market, so I'll only need to buy a couple of cricket DVDs and I'll have forgotten they're games I've watched by Sunday when I want to watch again!
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@dogmeat I have some fantastic viewing still stored on video tapes - and a player to play it on!
Deeply pissed that someone (probably me) taped over the famous Crusaders' drubbing of the Waratahs!
@Chris-B said in Spark Sport:
@dogmeat I have some fantastic viewing still stored on video tapes - and a player to play it on!
Deeply pissed that someone (probably me) taped over the famous Crusaders' drubbing of the Waratahs!
streaming fella, there ya go:
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@Chris-B said in Spark Sport:
@dogmeat I have some fantastic viewing still stored on video tapes - and a player to play it on!
Deeply pissed that someone (probably me) taped over the famous Crusaders' drubbing of the Waratahs!
streaming fella, there ya go:
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@dogmeat I have some fantastic viewing still stored on video tapes - and a player to play it on!
Deeply pissed that someone (probably me) taped over the famous Crusaders' drubbing of the Waratahs!
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@Chris-B
So not only were you using tape in 2012!!!
You were using tape after 2012!!!!!!
Again
Oh ….. Nelson.....
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@Chris-B Fair call - although I genuinely am much closer to senility so I have that excuse as well
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@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@Paekakboyz said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I don't get the hate on our broadband. Fibre is in most places, and going out fast.
also, check this out
https://www.crowninfrastructure.govt.nz/rural/what/Edit: I got interrupted.
In 2017, Crown Infrastructure Partners (CIP) assessed that 90,000 rural households and businesses cannot access broadband speeds of at least 20 Mbps download. The RBI2 programme aims to reduce this number as much as possible.So we're talking about 90,000 households and businesses who can't access fast-ish internet at the momehnt, and that's dropping. IN the context of 5M people in NZ, that's a pity for some, but it's not a train wreck. I reckon our internet infrastructure is usually exceptional, and not too bad overall.
Yeah - I think nationally we're not doing badly with broadband compared to most other countries - far lower population density than most countries - probably making the cost of a national rollout higher per capita than most.
Interesting in this context though...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275038
As of Wednesday, there had been over 186,000 Spark Sport subscriptions for the Rugby World Cup Tournament Pass.
Anecdotally, I suspect that there would be a significantly higher proportion of people in those 90K rural households that would have subscribed to RWC than in the broader population - if they could have. Most people I've talked to about it round here would have.
I read somewhere that Spark was thought to have paid $12 million for RWC rights (which seems cheap, but apparently double what Sky paid last time). So they'll presumably have broken approximately even. But 186K subscriptions nonetheless seems quite low to me - for what is probably NZ's premier sporting event.
And cricket is not rugby. As I recall, those guys who came in initially and took the EPL away from Sky with their Premier League Pass or something similar,didn't do well - like many pioneers, they probably perished on the trail. I wonder whether the major effect of domestic cricket going to Spark will be that many less people will watch cricket. To watch all the BCs games, you'll have to have two subscriptions - not a prohibitive issue for wealthy and ardent fans, but will casual fans switch to Spark and pay both? Or will they just cancel Sky and go to the beach?
@Chris-B
@Chris-B said in Spark Sport:
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@Paekakboyz said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I don't get the hate on our broadband. Fibre is in most places, and going out fast.
also, check this out
https://www.crowninfrastructure.govt.nz/rural/what/Edit: I got interrupted.
In 2017, Crown Infrastructure Partners (CIP) assessed that 90,000 rural households and businesses cannot access broadband speeds of at least 20 Mbps download. The RBI2 programme aims to reduce this number as much as possible.So we're talking about 90,000 households and businesses who can't access fast-ish internet at the momehnt, and that's dropping. IN the context of 5M people in NZ, that's a pity for some, but it's not a train wreck. I reckon our internet infrastructure is usually exceptional, and not too bad overall.
Yeah - I think nationally we're not doing badly with broadband compared to most other countries - far lower population density than most countries - probably making the cost of a national rollout higher per capita than most.
Interesting in this context though...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275038
As of Wednesday, there had been over 186,000 Spark Sport subscriptions for the Rugby World Cup Tournament Pass.
Anecdotally, I suspect that there would be a significantly higher proportion of people in those 90K rural households that would have subscribed to RWC than in the broader population - if they could have. Most people I've talked to about it round here would have.
I read somewhere that Spark was thought to have paid $12 million for RWC rights (which seems cheap, but apparently double what Sky paid last time). So they'll presumably have broken approximately even. But 186K subscriptions nonetheless seems quite low to me - for what is probably NZ's premier sporting event.
And cricket is not rugby. As I recall, those guys who came in initially and took the EPL away from Sky with their Premier League Pass or something similar,didn't do well - like many pioneers, they probably perished on the trail. I wonder whether the major effect of domestic cricket going to Spark will be that many less people will watch cricket. To watch all the BCs games, you'll have to have two subscriptions - not a prohibitive issue for wealthy and ardent fans, but will casual fans switch to Spark and pay both? Or will they just cancel Sky and go to the beach?
I would strongly suspect casual cricket fans don't care about overseas tours except the ones to Australia due to time zones. If the pricing stays the same, you can essentially get the full cricket season for a similar cost as one month of Sky.
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@Chris-B
@Chris-B said in Spark Sport:
@nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@Paekakboyz said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I don't get the hate on our broadband. Fibre is in most places, and going out fast.
also, check this out
https://www.crowninfrastructure.govt.nz/rural/what/Edit: I got interrupted.
In 2017, Crown Infrastructure Partners (CIP) assessed that 90,000 rural households and businesses cannot access broadband speeds of at least 20 Mbps download. The RBI2 programme aims to reduce this number as much as possible.So we're talking about 90,000 households and businesses who can't access fast-ish internet at the momehnt, and that's dropping. IN the context of 5M people in NZ, that's a pity for some, but it's not a train wreck. I reckon our internet infrastructure is usually exceptional, and not too bad overall.
Yeah - I think nationally we're not doing badly with broadband compared to most other countries - far lower population density than most countries - probably making the cost of a national rollout higher per capita than most.
Interesting in this context though...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12275038
As of Wednesday, there had been over 186,000 Spark Sport subscriptions for the Rugby World Cup Tournament Pass.
Anecdotally, I suspect that there would be a significantly higher proportion of people in those 90K rural households that would have subscribed to RWC than in the broader population - if they could have. Most people I've talked to about it round here would have.
I read somewhere that Spark was thought to have paid $12 million for RWC rights (which seems cheap, but apparently double what Sky paid last time). So they'll presumably have broken approximately even. But 186K subscriptions nonetheless seems quite low to me - for what is probably NZ's premier sporting event.
And cricket is not rugby. As I recall, those guys who came in initially and took the EPL away from Sky with their Premier League Pass or something similar,didn't do well - like many pioneers, they probably perished on the trail. I wonder whether the major effect of domestic cricket going to Spark will be that many less people will watch cricket. To watch all the BCs games, you'll have to have two subscriptions - not a prohibitive issue for wealthy and ardent fans, but will casual fans switch to Spark and pay both? Or will they just cancel Sky and go to the beach?
I would strongly suspect casual cricket fans don't care about overseas tours except the ones to Australia due to time zones. If the pricing stays the same, you can essentially get the full cricket season for a similar cost as one month of Sky.
@LABCAT Yeah - but, I'll be interested to see how many people take up the option.
As above, Spark has sold 186K subscriptions to RWC - whereas Sky apparently has almost 800K subscribers. And I'd expect RWC to be way more popular than cricket.
It will be a pity if the main result of this is a heap less people watching cricket.
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not worth starting a new thread, but Seven Sharp (everyones fave) did a little piece (under 4 mins) on the guys from the 1014.
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@LABCAT Yeah - but, I'll be interested to see how many people take up the option.
As above, Spark has sold 186K subscriptions to RWC - whereas Sky apparently has almost 800K subscribers. And I'd expect RWC to be way more popular than cricket.
It will be a pity if the main result of this is a heap less people watching cricket.
@Chris-B said in Spark Sport:
As above, Spark has sold 186K subscriptions to RWC
Not sold, have 186K subscriptions. Spark were offering the RWC package free with some new accounts so I doubt all of those are paying customers.
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@LABCAT Yeah - but, I'll be interested to see how many people take up the option.
As above, Spark has sold 186K subscriptions to RWC - whereas Sky apparently has almost 800K subscribers. And I'd expect RWC to be way more popular than cricket.
It will be a pity if the main result of this is a heap less people watching cricket.
