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@godder said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
To be fair to Spark, they are mostly reliant on Chorus for Fibre, but that's rolling out quite well, and there are things being done for more rural areas as well.
Spark has got a fucking sight more influence on Chorus than pretty much anyone else, so they need to get their arse into gear to press for enhanced fibre rollout and whatever else to ensure as many people as possible are satisfactorily connected.
A technological "fail" on RWC is entirely unacceptable. If it occurs, those responsible need to be jailed....if not executed!
@chris-b said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@godder said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
To be fair to Spark, they are mostly reliant on Chorus for Fibre, but that's rolling out quite well, and there are things being done for more rural areas as well.
Spark has got a fucking sight more influence on Chorus than pretty much anyone else, so they need to get their arse into gear to press for enhanced fibre rollout and whatever else to ensure as many people as possible are satisfactorily connected.
Spark do not have more influence on chorus with regard to the rollout itself.
The only influence they have on the rollout is shouting to Crown Fibre if the plan is falling behind or not enough resources are in place to do connections and they are falling behind.
The rollout is running ahead of plan to the point that the govt has approved further rollout than the original plan.
The model is that enhancing and growing the network is hugely in Chorus' interest so they are the drivers of doing things more efficiently and speedily. Chorus makes it's money from connections so again, the driver is to connect as many as possible.
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@chris-b said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@godder said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
To be fair to Spark, they are mostly reliant on Chorus for Fibre, but that's rolling out quite well, and there are things being done for more rural areas as well.
Spark has got a fucking sight more influence on Chorus than pretty much anyone else, so they need to get their arse into gear to press for enhanced fibre rollout and whatever else to ensure as many people as possible are satisfactorily connected.
Spark do not have more influence on chorus with regard to the rollout itself.
The only influence they have on the rollout is shouting to Crown Fibre if the plan is falling behind or not enough resources are in place to do connections and they are falling behind.
The rollout is running ahead of plan to the point that the govt has approved further rollout than the original plan.
The model is that enhancing and growing the network is hugely in Chorus' interest so they are the drivers of doing things more efficiently and speedily. Chorus makes it's money from connections so again, the driver is to connect as many as possible.
Where Spark are in the driving seat is promoting their own fibre plans and offering attractive products.@crucial Wouldn't Spark be pretty much the biggest customer/client/user or whatever the terminology is for Chorus' fibre?
They've doubtless got a shitload more influence than me.
In any case, I don't care who is responsible...I'm going for the Henry VIII call to execute widely if I can't watch what I want to of the RWC.
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@crucial Wouldn't Spark be pretty much the biggest customer/client/user or whatever the terminology is for Chorus' fibre?
They've doubtless got a shitload more influence than me.
In any case, I don't care who is responsible...I'm going for the Henry VIII call to execute widely if I can't watch what I want to of the RWC.
@chris-b said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@crucial Wouldn't Spark be pretty much the biggest customer/client/user or whatever the terminology is for Chorus' fibre?
They've doubtless got a shitload more influence than me.
As far as the UFB build goes though, they don't/can't influence directly. Must go through Crown Fibre. This is, in part, due to the fact that Spark and Chorus are divorced and other competitors want to make sure there is no undue influence from an ex-partner. Lots of rules around how they interact (especially as at time of separation there were still a huge number of shared systems in place. Data separation had to be wrapped around that as Chorus built their own system infrastructure and transferred over).
Short story is that Chorus want as many h/holds on their fibre network as possible so 'influence' from Spark is irrelevant.
In fact Chorus are the ones that push the govt to change laws around easing complications in connections (such as shared title approvals) so they can get shit done. Chorus push for then apply for extensions to the roll-out and the ability to connect rural properties where they can as it is in their vested interest for those places to become their customers before someone steps in with better data coverage under things like 5G and satellite as new technologies come into the market.Edit: Take up %s are the biggest challenge. It is amazing how many people either don't take up what is on offer then complain about what they have or just think they don't need to upgrade. The ISPs are often reluctant to push the better product when their old products have a better margin (people sitting on old product contracts without realising they can upgrade). This RWC thing will have Chorus hoping for greater takeup of fibre but it will be interesting to see the line Spark take. They could tell their customers that the minimums will be sufficient if there is income risk in too many changing faster then predicted.
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I'd be on fibre like a shot, my speed here is great on VDSL, amazing really since I'm out in a village on the coast - 50+ down, 10 up. But VDSL is more expensive than fibre and ADSL.
@machpants said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I'd be on fibre like a shot, my speed here is great on VDSL, amazing really since I'm out in a village on the coast - 50+ down, 10 up. But VDSL is more expensive than fibre and ADSL.
Exactly my point. Some ISPs are making more from copper plans than fibre ones so are disincentivized to promote change (not that it makes much diff in your case).
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In theory at least, Spark, Vodafone and 2Degrees have the least to gain from fibre, because selling broadband using their mobile networks (and cable for Vodafone) make them more money than fibre.
In my experience, 3G struggles but 4G is watchable. 5G is apparently going to be amazingly fast, but it won't be in place in time (especially not in the rural areas).
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@godder said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
To be fair to Spark, they are mostly reliant on Chorus for Fibre, but that's rolling out quite well, and there are things being done for more rural areas as well.
Spark has got a fucking sight more influence on Chorus than pretty much anyone else, so they need to get their arse into gear to press for enhanced fibre rollout and whatever else to ensure as many people as possible are satisfactorily connected.
A technological "fail" on RWC is entirely unacceptable. If it occurs, those responsible need to be jailed....if not executed!
@chris-b said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@godder said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
To be fair to Spark, they are mostly reliant on Chorus for Fibre, but that's rolling out quite well, and there are things being done for more rural areas as well.
Spark has got a fucking sight more influence on Chorus than pretty much anyone else, so they need to get their arse into gear to press for enhanced fibre rollout and whatever else to ensure as many people as possible are satisfactorily connected.
A technological "fail" on RWC is entirely unacceptable. If it occurs, those responsible need to be jailed....if not executed!
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@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
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@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
@canefan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
Maybe he can see the writing on the wall for Sky Sports?
Can't say I am unhappy. I really like him as a pundit centre piece and a commentator.
Well done TVNZ.
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I have to say I have been very impressed with the new sport streaming service here in Australia called Kayo(foxtel offshoot) . For $25 a month cancel anytime it is the answer to all my rugby needs. I split it with the mother in law as you can have at least 2 logins at a time.
It works well, you can skip forward quickly without problem. They have loads of different sports and have replay options for a little while after the game. This system would work well for RWC and I hope like hell they have rights for next year.
I was always pissed off having to buy a package from Foxtel so this is awesome. I assume Sky may do something similar in future.
The flipside to this is Optus, a phone network got the rights to the Soccer WC and it was a giant fuck up. The stream was poor quailty and kept buffering. It was so bad they allowed a TV broadcaster to show it for free just so people could watch games. Let's hope Spark and TVNZ have a decent system.
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@canefan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
Maybe he can see the writing on the wall for Sky Sports?
Can't say I am unhappy. I really like him as a pundit centre piece and a commentator.
Well done TVNZ.
@hooroo said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@canefan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
Maybe he can see the writing on the wall for Sky Sports?
Can't say I am unhappy. I really like him as a pundit centre piece and a commentator.
Well done TVNZ.
I was wondering about that. Melodie Robinson also announced today she's leaving Sky (not sure where she's going). Maybe more to follow?
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@hooroo said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@canefan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
Maybe he can see the writing on the wall for Sky Sports?
Can't say I am unhappy. I really like him as a pundit centre piece and a commentator.
Well done TVNZ.
I was wondering about that. Melodie Robinson also announced today she's leaving Sky (not sure where she's going). Maybe more to follow?
@stargazer said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@hooroo said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@canefan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
Maybe he can see the writing on the wall for Sky Sports?
Can't say I am unhappy. I really like him as a pundit centre piece and a commentator.
Well done TVNZ.
I was wondering about that. Melodie Robinson also announced today she's leaving Sky (not sure where she's going). Maybe more to follow?
Nuts! Not a fan. Prefer the other two but can't think of their names
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@hooroo said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@canefan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
Maybe he can see the writing on the wall for Sky Sports?
Can't say I am unhappy. I really like him as a pundit centre piece and a commentator.
Well done TVNZ.
I was wondering about that. Melodie Robinson also announced today she's leaving Sky (not sure where she's going). Maybe more to follow?
@stargazer said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
I was wondering about that. Melodie Robinson also announced today she's leaving Sky (not sure where she's going). Maybe more to follow?
She was moved to corporate comms manager some time ago.
Sky still has the SANZAAR rugby rights which is the bulk of our rugby.
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I guess Sumo wants to call AB games, fair enough. Might have to reign his use of nicknames and personal anecdotes with the players.
I like his actual call of the games otherwise.
As we said on that other thread about commentators, it would be nice if they sounded like they enjoyed rugby instead of complaining all the time.
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@canefan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@bovidae said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@stargazer Sumo pissed off he didn't join the Sky junket on the EOYT. Or maybe they already knew...
I'm sure they'll dust the cobwebs off Quinn and McBeth soon.
He must have a long term plan, because it doesn't make sense to jump off the Sky bandwagon for the sake of one tournament
Maybe he can see the writing on the wall for Sky Sports?
Can't say I am unhappy. I really like him as a pundit centre piece and a commentator.
Well done TVNZ.
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@canefan have to compare him with TJ and Nisbett. Not sure TJ is better at all.
Hope they get Merhts for expert comments. Or Mexted for comedy value
@kirwan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@canefan have to compare him with TJ and Nisbett. Not sure TJ is better at all.
Hope they get Merhts for expert comments. Or Mexted for comedy value
Those three would be great. Mex's clumsy unintended sexual innuendos wouldn't sit well with the #metoo set though
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@kirwan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@canefan have to compare him with TJ and Nisbett. Not sure TJ is better at all.
Hope they get Merhts for expert comments. Or Mexted for comedy value
Those three would be great. Mex's clumsy unintended sexual innuendos wouldn't sit well with the #metoo set though
@canefan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@kirwan said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:
@canefan have to compare him with TJ and Nisbett. Not sure TJ is better at all.
Hope they get Merhts for expert comments. Or Mexted for comedy value
Those three would be great. Mex's clumsy unintended sexual innuendos wouldn't sit well with the #metoo set though
Fuck them.
