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  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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    I wonder if the FTA stuff will be broadcast in HD again?

    TV1 & TV3 broadcast their FTA stuff in 2007 FTA, but unless you had the HD ticket, none of the Sky stuff was, so you were better off watching the matches aired on FTA on 1 or 3 (3 had Merhts IIRC, so that one)

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    • Chris B.C Chris B.

      2007 TV3 had Hamish MacKay as the lead commentator. Is he around somewhere else these days? As nzzp notes, they had Merts, as well as people like John Hart - there's no real shortage of ex-Rugby players who can provide colour commentary from the studio - lots of guys who turn up on "The Breakdown" etc occasionally, who can only be under casual/freelance type contracts with Sky.

      More concerned with who they'll have actually calling the match. I fear they'll go with the "experience" of John McBeth and we'll get something from the 1980s.

      Biggest concern though is quite what the streaming experience will be out in the sticks.

      On the plus side, I imagine the games will be played to cater for the big NH audiences so probably not kicking off till around midnight NZ time, so I'm unlikely to watch too much live. If we assume the ABs games will play live on TVNZ (and others will be delayed) that side of things might be OK.

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      @chris-b said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

      2007 TV3 had Hamish MacKay as the lead commentator. Is he around somewhere else these days? As nzzp notes, they had Merts, as well as people like John Hart - there's no real shortage of ex-Rugby players who can provide colour commentary from the studio - lots of guys who turn up on "The Breakdown" etc occasionally, who can only be under casual/freelance type contracts with Sky.

      More concerned with who they'll have actually calling the match. I fear they'll go with the "experience" of John McBeth and we'll get something from the 1980s.

      Biggest concern though is quite what the streaming experience will be out in the sticks.

      On the plus side, I imagine the games will be played to cater for the big NH audiences so probably not kicking off till around midnight NZ time, so I'm unlikely to watch too much live. If we assume the ABs games will play live on TVNZ (and others will be delayed) that side of things might be OK.

      If Nisbo etc is tied down by an exclusive contract.

      I'd be happy with a Tom Conroy? Used to do TV gig down in Southland on local tv? Sometimes on Grassroots rugby. Assume he had a radio background. Him plus an ex-player or coach comments man.

      Variety is good.

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      • RapidoR Rapido

        @chris-b said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

        2007 TV3 had Hamish MacKay as the lead commentator. Is he around somewhere else these days? As nzzp notes, they had Merts, as well as people like John Hart - there's no real shortage of ex-Rugby players who can provide colour commentary from the studio - lots of guys who turn up on "The Breakdown" etc occasionally, who can only be under casual/freelance type contracts with Sky.

        More concerned with who they'll have actually calling the match. I fear they'll go with the "experience" of John McBeth and we'll get something from the 1980s.

        Biggest concern though is quite what the streaming experience will be out in the sticks.

        On the plus side, I imagine the games will be played to cater for the big NH audiences so probably not kicking off till around midnight NZ time, so I'm unlikely to watch too much live. If we assume the ABs games will play live on TVNZ (and others will be delayed) that side of things might be OK.

        If Nisbo etc is tied down by an exclusive contract.

        I'd be happy with a Tom Conroy? Used to do TV gig down in Southland on local tv? Sometimes on Grassroots rugby. Assume he had a radio background. Him plus an ex-player or coach comments man.

        Variety is good.

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        @rapido said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

        @chris-b said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

        If Nisbo etc is tied down by an exclusive contract.

        I suspect the main Sky guys are - they didn't feature in 2007.

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        • Stockcar86S Stockcar86

          A combo of John McBeth and Keith Quinn :confounded_face:

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          @stockcar86 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

          A combo of John McBeth and Keith Quinn :confounded_face:

          Too many old white men. Diversity will trump rugby knowledge so they'll have Anika Moa and Golriz Ghahraman calling the game. John Campbell and Hillary Barry in the studio.

          It could happen and you know it.

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          • JCJ JC

            @stockcar86 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

            A combo of John McBeth and Keith Quinn :confounded_face:

            Too many old white men. Diversity will trump rugby knowledge so they'll have Anika Moa and Golriz Ghahraman calling the game. John Campbell and Hillary Barry in the studio.

            It could happen and you know it.

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            taniwharugby
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            @jc cnut...

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              The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

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                The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

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                @akan004 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

                Spurious correlations gives me this:

                0_1523839761116_chart.png

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                • A akan004

                  The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

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                  @akan004 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                  The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

                  I thought TV3 had it?

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    @akan004 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                    The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

                    I thought TV3 had it?

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                    @rapido You may be right...

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @akan004 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                      The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

                      Spurious correlations gives me this:

                      0_1523839761116_chart.png

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                      @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                      @akan004 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                      The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

                      Spurious correlations gives me this:

                      0_1523839761116_chart.png

                      Potentially, a lot of those drownings could be intentional - after watching movies.

                      Some Nicholas Cage films I've seen it wouldn't surprise me! πŸ™‚

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @nzzp said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                        @akan004 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                        The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

                        Spurious correlations gives me this:

                        0_1523839761116_chart.png

                        Potentially, a lot of those drownings could be intentional - after watching movies.

                        Some Nicholas Cage films I've seen it wouldn't surprise me! πŸ™‚

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                        @chris-b Yep, quite the spike after Captain Corelli's Mandolin.

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                        • JCJ JC

                          @chris-b Yep, quite the spike after Captain Corelli's Mandolin.

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                          @jc only good thing about that movie is that I have been to many of the set locations on Kefalonia, by all accounts, Cage was not well received by locals, buying a house and building big f-off walls around it to stop anyone looking at him....

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                          • nzzpN nzzp

                            @akan004 said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                            The last time we lost the RWC was when Labour were the govt and TVNZ had the broadcasting rights. Just saying.

                            Spurious correlations gives me this:

                            0_1523839761116_chart.png

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                            @nzzp I blame Leaving Las Vegas.

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                              Quinn said he felt TVNZ was well placed to handle the commentary aspects of World Cup coverage.
                              
                              TVNZ would have no problems "as they will send their own people for significant New Zealand matches," he said
                              
                              Quinn had no insights into who "those people" might be, nor would he comment on his own availability for the tournament.
                              
                              On Sunday, Andrew Saville and veteran John McBeth did the commentaries for the men's and women's sevens finals at the Gold Coast Commonwealth Games.
                              
                              Both would likely be firmly in the mix for Japan. Saville is an experienced match caller, while McBeth was New Zealand's leading radio rugby commentator for 10 years, before taking the leading rugby role at TVNZ.
                              
                              Scheduling means TVNZ could not cover every game, so it was likely the World Commentary Team (WTC) feed would be taken for non-New Zealand games, Quinn said.
                              
                              Sky TV used the WTC in the past to bolster core commentators Grant Nisbett, Tony Johnson and Justin Marshall at the 2015 Cup.
                              
                              Those three and others - such as the high-profile Scotty Stevenson - contracted to Sky would seem to be not an option for TVNZ.
                              
                              Nor would TVNZ want to use them, as they would be intent on stamping their own brand on the Cup coverage.
                              
                              Contracts dependent, it is possible sevens specialist Karl Te Nana, experienced Radio Sport caller Nigel Yalden and Willie Lose, who has played rugby in Japan, might be available to TVNZ.
                              
                              Former Chiefs and All Blacks No 8 Steven Bates is another media-experienced former player who has played rugby in Japan, so has a valuable understanding of the local culture, and local rugby culture.
                              
                              WTC commentators are contracted by World Rugby to ensure all games have quality commentators.
                              
                              They operate under guidelines which mean they must make games sound exciting, without exhibiting a national bias.
                              
                              Quinn, Johnson and Te Nana have all called games for the WTC
                              
                              Quinn also commentated to a worldwide audience at the Rio Olympics two years ago, when he called the sevens for the Olympic Broadcasting Service - essentially the Olympic Games version of the WTC.
                              
                              He expected New Zealanders to be happy with the WTC callers, which featured the likes of Australian Gordon Bray, Welshman Eddie Butler, and Englishmen Miles Harrison and Ben Gollings.
                              
                              "There will be a lot of familiar voices for New Zealand viewers," Quinn said.
                              
                              "Some of the South African callers, and some of the British names like Miles Harrison and Eddie Butler, will be known."
                              
                              WTC will fly commentators to Japan, pay their accommodation, and give them a fee. In exchange WTC controls what they are able to say.
                              
                              No WTC broadcaster would criticise aspects of the way the tournament was run, or its infrastructure.
                              

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/103142297/world-cup-commentators-will-be-familiar-voices-to-kiwis-doyen-keith-quinn-says

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                                #35

                                Yealden is a great radio commentator, but not sure his 'style' would go down well on TV comms...?

                                Is Merhts contracted to anyone, I thought Kronfeld was decent in 2011 as well, wonder if they would try to get someone like Wayne SMith to do it, assume they will look at McCaw too?

                                Being analytical and knowledgable is one thing, but being able to commentate is another completely.

                                @Steven-Harris send them your CV bro πŸ™‚

                                edit - wonder if Glen Osbourne or Eric Rush would be keen πŸ™‚

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                                  Reiko! oh! oh!

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                                    Oh god. Not Quinn and McBeth. Please.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      Yealden is a great radio commentator, but not sure his 'style' would go down well on TV comms...?

                                      Is Merhts contracted to anyone, I thought Kronfeld was decent in 2011 as well, wonder if they would try to get someone like Wayne SMith to do it, assume they will look at McCaw too?

                                      Being analytical and knowledgable is one thing, but being able to commentate is another completely.

                                      @Steven-Harris send them your CV bro πŸ™‚

                                      edit - wonder if Glen Osbourne or Eric Rush would be keen πŸ™‚

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                                      @taniwharugby said in And the winner of the RWC broadcasting rights is...:

                                      Yealden is a great radio commentator, but not sure his 'style' would go down well on TV comms...?

                                      Yeah, not my bag at all. Listening to him in the car at the weekend, and find his enthusiasm grating. Still, some people like him (excluding me and Mrs NZZP, who described him as a muppet)

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                                        Isn't this what the fern has been asking for? Breaking Sky's stronghold in sports broadcasting? This thread seems a bit complainy considering. πŸ˜‰

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                                          Just watched a few Simon Moutter soundbites on TV3 News.

                                          "At the end of the day there's a lot more Kiwis have a good broadband connection than a Sky dish".

                                          Yeah - but, everyone can choose to have a Sky dish, Simon - and I'd guess a decent majority of ardent rugby fans have one. We're reliant on the fucking telecommunications industry to deliver us decent Broadband.
                                          He came across as a smug piston wristed gibbon IMO!

                                          Let's hope Quinn's thoughts on commentators aren't on the money - 1980s broadcasters targeting millennials ambivalent about rugby - how could it possibly fail!

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