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Blues 2019

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    Tim
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    Players known to be signed for 2019:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2018–19_Super_Rugby_transfers#Blues

    Alex Hodgman
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi
    Leni Apisai
    Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
    Scott Scrafton
    Patrick Tuipulotu
    Jimmy Tupou
    Blake Gibson
    Hoskins Sotutu
    Otere Black
    Harry Plummer
    Tanielu Tele’a
    Sonny Bill Williams
    Matt Duffie
    Melani Nanai
    Michael Collins

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      With Black and Plummer there, where does that leave Perofeta in his development? He’s starting to find his feet with regular play but will likely have to share starts with Black next season.

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        With Black and Plummer there, where does that leave Perofeta in his development? He’s starting to find his feet with regular play but will likely have to share starts with Black next season.

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        @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

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          @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

          @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

          Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

          I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

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          • TimT Tim

            Players known to be signed for 2019:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2018–19_Super_Rugby_transfers#Blues

            Alex Hodgman
            Ofa Tu'ungafasi
            Leni Apisai
            Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
            Scott Scrafton
            Patrick Tuipulotu
            Jimmy Tupou
            Blake Gibson
            Hoskins Sotutu
            Otere Black
            Harry Plummer
            Tanielu Tele’a
            Sonny Bill Williams
            Matt Duffie
            Melani Nanai
            Michael Collins

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            Northlandallday
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            #146

            @tim Moulds signed for 2 years, so has another year on contract with the Blues.

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            • NorthlandalldayN Northlandallday

              @tim Moulds signed for 2 years, so has another year on contract with the Blues.

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              Tim
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              @northlandallday Have you got a link for that? If so I'll update the wiki.

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                @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

                @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

                Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

                I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

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                Crucial
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                #148

                @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

                @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

                @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

                Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

                I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

                Yeah. I just think it will be an interesting dynamic and at least one of the three will look to take their ambitions elsewhere depending on what happens. At the moment (according to that list) Perofeta isn't signed up yet. Will he commit for more than one year to keep options open?
                There's also the question of whether their may be a spot in 2020 at the Highlanders. Will Gatland be the answer for them or will they be looking for someone else.

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                  #149

                  My guess of probable squad signings for 2019:

                  (38 players)

                  Prop

                  Alex Hodgman
                  Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                  Pauliasi Manu
                  Another TH x2
                  Another LH

                  Hooker

                  Matt Moulds
                  Leni Apisai
                  Another Hooker

                  Lock

                  Patrick Tuipulotu
                  Scott Scrafton
                  Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
                  Josh Goodhue
                  Another Lock or Lock/6

                  Loose Forward

                  Blake Gibson
                  Dalton Papali'i
                  Akira Ioane
                  Hoskins Sotutu
                  Jimmy Tupou
                  Another 6 or 8
                  Another 7

                  Halfback

                  Augustine Pulu
                  Another Halfback x2

                  1st 5

                  Otere Black
                  Harry Plummer
                  Stephen Perofeta

                  Midfield

                  SBW
                  Rieko Ioane
                  Orbyn Leger
                  Tanielu Tele’a
                  Another Midfielder

                  Wing/Fullback

                  Matt Duffie
                  Melani Nanai
                  Michael Collins
                  Caleb Clarke
                  Tumua Manu

                  Additional Cover

                  Another Fullback

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                  • TimT Away
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                    Tim
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                    #150

                    Additional player possibilities:

                    (Let me know if they are unavailable, opinions on the players or suggestions of other players welcome.)

                    Another TH x2

                    Marcel Renata, Mike Tamoaieta, Sione Mafileo, Isaac Salmon, Angus Ta'avao

                    Another LH

                    Ezekial Lindenmuth, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Ross Wright, Jack Straker

                    Another Hooker

                    James Parsons, Ross Wright, Kurt Eklund

                    Another Lock or Lock/6

                    Quentin Strange, Scott Pierce, Ben Nee Nee, Mitchell Dunshea

                    Another 6 or 8

                    Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Pita Gus Sowakula, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Slade

                    Another 7

                    Sione Havili, Kara Pryor, Jed Brown, Billy Harmon

                    Another Halfback x2

                    Jack Stratton, Jonathan Ruru, Carlos Price, Bryn Hall, Lewis Gjaltema, Ere Enari, Richard Judd, Nico Costa

                    Another Midfielder

                    Tamati Tua, T.J. Faiane, Matty Johnson, Matt Vaega, Michael Little

                    Another Fullback

                    Shaun Stevenson

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                      Pickings look slim when you aren't the franchise of choice.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        My guess of probable squad signings for 2019:

                        (38 players)

                        Prop

                        Alex Hodgman
                        Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                        Pauliasi Manu
                        Another TH x2
                        Another LH

                        Hooker

                        Matt Moulds
                        Leni Apisai
                        Another Hooker

                        Lock

                        Patrick Tuipulotu
                        Scott Scrafton
                        Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
                        Josh Goodhue
                        Another Lock or Lock/6

                        Loose Forward

                        Blake Gibson
                        Dalton Papali'i
                        Akira Ioane
                        Hoskins Sotutu
                        Jimmy Tupou
                        Another 6 or 8
                        Another 7

                        Halfback

                        Augustine Pulu
                        Another Halfback x2

                        1st 5

                        Otere Black
                        Harry Plummer
                        Stephen Perofeta

                        Midfield

                        SBW
                        Rieko Ioane
                        Orbyn Leger
                        Tanielu Tele’a
                        Another Midfielder

                        Wing/Fullback

                        Matt Duffie
                        Melani Nanai
                        Michael Collins
                        Caleb Clarke
                        Tumua Manu

                        Additional Cover

                        Another Fullback

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                        Northlandallday
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                        #152

                        @tim Shaun Stevenson? somehow I doubt he's not already signed to chiefs. If not he would make a great addition to the Blues.

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                        • NorthlandalldayN Northlandallday

                          @tim Shaun Stevenson? somehow I doubt he's not already signed to chiefs. If not he would make a great addition to the Blues.

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                          Tim
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                          #153

                          @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                          Shaun Stevenson

                          Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                          His contract with the Chiefs runs through to 2018, as it does with North Harbour - the province of his roots who he'll play for this season after two years with Waikato.

                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/89684040/shaun-stevenson-targets-an-all-blacks-jersey-ahead-of-a-big-year-with-the-chiefs

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                            Stevenson an example of a Blues area player (was an U18 Blues player) that had to leave to get a chance. At least a few are starting to drift back.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Additional player possibilities:

                              (Let me know if they are unavailable, opinions on the players or suggestions of other players welcome.)

                              Another TH x2

                              Marcel Renata, Mike Tamoaieta, Sione Mafileo, Isaac Salmon, Angus Ta'avao

                              Another LH

                              Ezekial Lindenmuth, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Ross Wright, Jack Straker

                              Another Hooker

                              James Parsons, Ross Wright, Kurt Eklund

                              Another Lock or Lock/6

                              Quentin Strange, Scott Pierce, Ben Nee Nee, Mitchell Dunshea

                              Another 6 or 8

                              Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Pita Gus Sowakula, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Slade

                              Another 7

                              Sione Havili, Kara Pryor, Jed Brown, Billy Harmon

                              Another Halfback x2

                              Jack Stratton, Jonathan Ruru, Carlos Price, Bryn Hall, Lewis Gjaltema, Ere Enari, Richard Judd, Nico Costa

                              Another Midfielder

                              Tamati Tua, T.J. Faiane, Matty Johnson, Matt Vaega, Michael Little

                              Another Fullback

                              Shaun Stevenson

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                              Chris
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #155

                              @Tim Ere Enari. signed until the end of 2019 with Crusaders

                              [link text](link url)https://crusaders.co.nz/news/1156-enari-ruled-out-of-debut-super-rugby-season

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                @Tim Ere Enari. signed until the end of 2019 with Crusaders

                                [link text](link url)https://crusaders.co.nz/news/1156-enari-ruled-out-of-debut-super-rugby-season

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                                Tim
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                                #156

                                @chris Thanks dude.

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @chris Thanks dude.

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                                  @Tim No worries Mate keep up the good work

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                                  • CrucialC Crucial

                                    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

                                    @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

                                    @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

                                    Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

                                    I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

                                    Yeah. I just think it will be an interesting dynamic and at least one of the three will look to take their ambitions elsewhere depending on what happens. At the moment (according to that list) Perofeta isn't signed up yet. Will he commit for more than one year to keep options open?
                                    There's also the question of whether their may be a spot in 2020 at the Highlanders. Will Gatland be the answer for them or will they be looking for someone else.

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                                    mimic
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                                    @crucial said in Blues 2019:

                                    @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

                                    @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

                                    @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

                                    Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

                                    I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

                                    Yeah. I just think it will be an interesting dynamic and at least one of the three will look to take their ambitions elsewhere depending on what happens. At the moment (according to that list) Perofeta isn't signed up yet. Will he commit for more than one year to keep options open?
                                    There's also the question of whether their may be a spot in 2020 at the Highlanders. Will Gatland be the answer for them or will they be looking for someone else.

                                    If I were the Blues I'd sign him up. Even if he doesn't manage to lock up the #10 jersey, I'd rather have him at fullback than Collins..
                                    I'm sure as a first five, Perofeta has solid communication skills as well.. And we all know he can run, and has more pace the Collins.. Will also have the added bonus of being a 2nd playmaker from fullback

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                      Shaun Stevenson

                                      Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                                      His contract with the Chiefs runs through to 2018, as it does with North Harbour - the province of his roots who he'll play for this season after two years with Waikato.

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/89684040/shaun-stevenson-targets-an-all-blacks-jersey-ahead-of-a-big-year-with-the-chiefs

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                                      @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                      @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                      Shaun Stevenson

                                      Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                                      That's the problem the franchises are very haphazard with their contract announcements. Some they announce and others they don't, it's weird. Social media isn't their strongest suit. Others will be deep in negotiations about now.

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                                      • NorthlandalldayN Northlandallday

                                        @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                        @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                        Shaun Stevenson

                                        Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                                        That's the problem the franchises are very haphazard with their contract announcements. Some they announce and others they don't, it's weird. Social media isn't their strongest suit. Others will be deep in negotiations about now.

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                                        @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                        @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                        @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                        Shaun Stevenson

                                        Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                                        That's the problem the franchises are very haphazard with their contract announcements. Some they announce and others they don't, it's weird. Social media isn't their strongest suit. Others will be deep in negotiations about now.

                                        I don't think players are actually obliged to have their employment conditions publicised. Maybe they need to have their permission asked? Most say it isn't a problem then it can be referred to. Some just slip through the cracks as a minor signing that no amount of googling can find then it becomes a little sensitive when negotiations are going on.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Players known to be signed for 2019:

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2018–19_Super_Rugby_transfers#Blues

                                          Alex Hodgman
                                          Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                          Leni Apisai
                                          Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
                                          Scott Scrafton
                                          Patrick Tuipulotu
                                          Jimmy Tupou
                                          Blake Gibson
                                          Hoskins Sotutu
                                          Otere Black
                                          Harry Plummer
                                          Tanielu Tele’a
                                          Sonny Bill Williams
                                          Matt Duffie
                                          Melani Nanai
                                          Michael Collins

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                                          @tim No Akira Ioane on that list , is he off contract soon ? A mate spotted him in a Wellington hotel yesterday with the Canes coaches. He could be the replacement for Brad Shields for next season

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