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  • CrucialC Crucial

    With Black and Plummer there, where does that leave Perofeta in his development? He’s starting to find his feet with regular play but will likely have to share starts with Black next season.

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    @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

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      @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

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      @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

      @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

      Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

      I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

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      • TimT Tim

        Players known to be signed for 2019:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2018–19_Super_Rugby_transfers#Blues

        Alex Hodgman
        Ofa Tu'ungafasi
        Leni Apisai
        Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
        Scott Scrafton
        Patrick Tuipulotu
        Jimmy Tupou
        Blake Gibson
        Hoskins Sotutu
        Otere Black
        Harry Plummer
        Tanielu Tele’a
        Sonny Bill Williams
        Matt Duffie
        Melani Nanai
        Michael Collins

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        @tim Moulds signed for 2 years, so has another year on contract with the Blues.

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        • NorthlandalldayN Northlandallday

          @tim Moulds signed for 2 years, so has another year on contract with the Blues.

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          @northlandallday Have you got a link for that? If so I'll update the wiki.

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          • nzzpN nzzp

            @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

            @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

            Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

            I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

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            @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

            @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

            @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

            Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

            I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

            Yeah. I just think it will be an interesting dynamic and at least one of the three will look to take their ambitions elsewhere depending on what happens. At the moment (according to that list) Perofeta isn't signed up yet. Will he commit for more than one year to keep options open?
            There's also the question of whether their may be a spot in 2020 at the Highlanders. Will Gatland be the answer for them or will they be looking for someone else.

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              #149

              My guess of probable squad signings for 2019:

              (38 players)

              Prop

              Alex Hodgman
              Ofa Tu'ungafasi
              Pauliasi Manu
              Another TH x2
              Another LH

              Hooker

              Matt Moulds
              Leni Apisai
              Another Hooker

              Lock

              Patrick Tuipulotu
              Scott Scrafton
              Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
              Josh Goodhue
              Another Lock or Lock/6

              Loose Forward

              Blake Gibson
              Dalton Papali'i
              Akira Ioane
              Hoskins Sotutu
              Jimmy Tupou
              Another 6 or 8
              Another 7

              Halfback

              Augustine Pulu
              Another Halfback x2

              1st 5

              Otere Black
              Harry Plummer
              Stephen Perofeta

              Midfield

              SBW
              Rieko Ioane
              Orbyn Leger
              Tanielu Tele’a
              Another Midfielder

              Wing/Fullback

              Matt Duffie
              Melani Nanai
              Michael Collins
              Caleb Clarke
              Tumua Manu

              Additional Cover

              Another Fullback

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                #150

                Additional player possibilities:

                (Let me know if they are unavailable, opinions on the players or suggestions of other players welcome.)

                Another TH x2

                Marcel Renata, Mike Tamoaieta, Sione Mafileo, Isaac Salmon, Angus Ta'avao

                Another LH

                Ezekial Lindenmuth, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Ross Wright, Jack Straker

                Another Hooker

                James Parsons, Ross Wright, Kurt Eklund

                Another Lock or Lock/6

                Quentin Strange, Scott Pierce, Ben Nee Nee, Mitchell Dunshea

                Another 6 or 8

                Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Pita Gus Sowakula, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Slade

                Another 7

                Sione Havili, Kara Pryor, Jed Brown, Billy Harmon

                Another Halfback x2

                Jack Stratton, Jonathan Ruru, Carlos Price, Bryn Hall, Lewis Gjaltema, Ere Enari, Richard Judd, Nico Costa

                Another Midfielder

                Tamati Tua, T.J. Faiane, Matty Johnson, Matt Vaega, Michael Little

                Another Fullback

                Shaun Stevenson

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                  Pickings look slim when you aren't the franchise of choice.

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                  • TimT Tim

                    My guess of probable squad signings for 2019:

                    (38 players)

                    Prop

                    Alex Hodgman
                    Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                    Pauliasi Manu
                    Another TH x2
                    Another LH

                    Hooker

                    Matt Moulds
                    Leni Apisai
                    Another Hooker

                    Lock

                    Patrick Tuipulotu
                    Scott Scrafton
                    Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
                    Josh Goodhue
                    Another Lock or Lock/6

                    Loose Forward

                    Blake Gibson
                    Dalton Papali'i
                    Akira Ioane
                    Hoskins Sotutu
                    Jimmy Tupou
                    Another 6 or 8
                    Another 7

                    Halfback

                    Augustine Pulu
                    Another Halfback x2

                    1st 5

                    Otere Black
                    Harry Plummer
                    Stephen Perofeta

                    Midfield

                    SBW
                    Rieko Ioane
                    Orbyn Leger
                    Tanielu Tele’a
                    Another Midfielder

                    Wing/Fullback

                    Matt Duffie
                    Melani Nanai
                    Michael Collins
                    Caleb Clarke
                    Tumua Manu

                    Additional Cover

                    Another Fullback

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                    @tim Shaun Stevenson? somehow I doubt he's not already signed to chiefs. If not he would make a great addition to the Blues.

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                    • NorthlandalldayN Northlandallday

                      @tim Shaun Stevenson? somehow I doubt he's not already signed to chiefs. If not he would make a great addition to the Blues.

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                      @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                      Shaun Stevenson

                      Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                      His contract with the Chiefs runs through to 2018, as it does with North Harbour - the province of his roots who he'll play for this season after two years with Waikato.

                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/89684040/shaun-stevenson-targets-an-all-blacks-jersey-ahead-of-a-big-year-with-the-chiefs

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                        Stevenson an example of a Blues area player (was an U18 Blues player) that had to leave to get a chance. At least a few are starting to drift back.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Additional player possibilities:

                          (Let me know if they are unavailable, opinions on the players or suggestions of other players welcome.)

                          Another TH x2

                          Marcel Renata, Mike Tamoaieta, Sione Mafileo, Isaac Salmon, Angus Ta'avao

                          Another LH

                          Ezekial Lindenmuth, Karl Tu’inukuafe, Ross Wright, Jack Straker

                          Another Hooker

                          James Parsons, Ross Wright, Kurt Eklund

                          Another Lock or Lock/6

                          Quentin Strange, Scott Pierce, Ben Nee Nee, Mitchell Dunshea

                          Another 6 or 8

                          Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Pita Gus Sowakula, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Slade

                          Another 7

                          Sione Havili, Kara Pryor, Jed Brown, Billy Harmon

                          Another Halfback x2

                          Jack Stratton, Jonathan Ruru, Carlos Price, Bryn Hall, Lewis Gjaltema, Ere Enari, Richard Judd, Nico Costa

                          Another Midfielder

                          Tamati Tua, T.J. Faiane, Matty Johnson, Matt Vaega, Michael Little

                          Another Fullback

                          Shaun Stevenson

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                          Chris
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                          #155

                          @Tim Ere Enari. signed until the end of 2019 with Crusaders

                          [link text](link url)https://crusaders.co.nz/news/1156-enari-ruled-out-of-debut-super-rugby-season

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Tim Ere Enari. signed until the end of 2019 with Crusaders

                            [link text](link url)https://crusaders.co.nz/news/1156-enari-ruled-out-of-debut-super-rugby-season

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                            Tim
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                            @chris Thanks dude.

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                              @chris Thanks dude.

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                              @Tim No worries Mate keep up the good work

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                              • CrucialC Crucial

                                @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

                                @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

                                @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

                                Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

                                I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

                                Yeah. I just think it will be an interesting dynamic and at least one of the three will look to take their ambitions elsewhere depending on what happens. At the moment (according to that list) Perofeta isn't signed up yet. Will he commit for more than one year to keep options open?
                                There's also the question of whether their may be a spot in 2020 at the Highlanders. Will Gatland be the answer for them or will they be looking for someone else.

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                                mimic
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                                @crucial said in Blues 2019:

                                @nzzp said in Blues 2019:

                                @stargazer said in Blues 2019:

                                @crucial You'd have to assume that Black will start and Perofeta will end up on the bench. Don't think Plummer will play that much in his first year?

                                Not any more. You'd have to see how they go in preseason, after Perofeta has ad a full season at the helm. That's more than Otere I think.

                                I don't particularly care which one gets the nod -- they have to be better than some of the 10s we've had recently

                                Yeah. I just think it will be an interesting dynamic and at least one of the three will look to take their ambitions elsewhere depending on what happens. At the moment (according to that list) Perofeta isn't signed up yet. Will he commit for more than one year to keep options open?
                                There's also the question of whether their may be a spot in 2020 at the Highlanders. Will Gatland be the answer for them or will they be looking for someone else.

                                If I were the Blues I'd sign him up. Even if he doesn't manage to lock up the #10 jersey, I'd rather have him at fullback than Collins..
                                I'm sure as a first five, Perofeta has solid communication skills as well.. And we all know he can run, and has more pace the Collins.. Will also have the added bonus of being a 2nd playmaker from fullback

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                                • TimT Tim

                                  @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                  Shaun Stevenson

                                  Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                                  His contract with the Chiefs runs through to 2018, as it does with North Harbour - the province of his roots who he'll play for this season after two years with Waikato.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/89684040/shaun-stevenson-targets-an-all-blacks-jersey-ahead-of-a-big-year-with-the-chiefs

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                                  @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                  @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                  Shaun Stevenson

                                  Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                                  That's the problem the franchises are very haphazard with their contract announcements. Some they announce and others they don't, it's weird. Social media isn't their strongest suit. Others will be deep in negotiations about now.

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                                  • NorthlandalldayN Northlandallday

                                    @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                    @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                    Shaun Stevenson

                                    Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                                    That's the problem the franchises are very haphazard with their contract announcements. Some they announce and others they don't, it's weird. Social media isn't their strongest suit. Others will be deep in negotiations about now.

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                                    Crucial
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                                    @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                    @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                    @northlandallday said in Blues 2019:

                                    Shaun Stevenson

                                    Yeah, that's who I meant. As far as I know he is only signed to the end of this season for the Chiefs.

                                    That's the problem the franchises are very haphazard with their contract announcements. Some they announce and others they don't, it's weird. Social media isn't their strongest suit. Others will be deep in negotiations about now.

                                    I don't think players are actually obliged to have their employment conditions publicised. Maybe they need to have their permission asked? Most say it isn't a problem then it can be referred to. Some just slip through the cracks as a minor signing that no amount of googling can find then it becomes a little sensitive when negotiations are going on.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Players known to be signed for 2019:

                                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2018–19_Super_Rugby_transfers#Blues

                                      Alex Hodgman
                                      Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                      Leni Apisai
                                      Gerard Cowley-Tuioti
                                      Scott Scrafton
                                      Patrick Tuipulotu
                                      Jimmy Tupou
                                      Blake Gibson
                                      Hoskins Sotutu
                                      Otere Black
                                      Harry Plummer
                                      Tanielu Tele’a
                                      Sonny Bill Williams
                                      Matt Duffie
                                      Melani Nanai
                                      Michael Collins

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                                      Kiwidom
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                                      @tim No Akira Ioane on that list , is he off contract soon ? A mate spotted him in a Wellington hotel yesterday with the Canes coaches. He could be the replacement for Brad Shields for next season

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                                      • K Kiwidom

                                        @tim No Akira Ioane on that list , is he off contract soon ? A mate spotted him in a Wellington hotel yesterday with the Canes coaches. He could be the replacement for Brad Shields for next season

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                                        @kiwidom I was thinking that. Certainly wouldn't suprise me if it happened.

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                                        • K Kiwidom

                                          @tim No Akira Ioane on that list , is he off contract soon ? A mate spotted him in a Wellington hotel yesterday with the Canes coaches. He could be the replacement for Brad Shields for next season

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                                          @kiwidom Both Ioane's are only contracted to the end of this year.

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