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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    There's some really interesting takeaways when you think about Coventry taking the Blues forwards coaching job

    • He's been coaching in the region with North Harbour and the Blues Development team so has a very strong knowledge of the current playing group

    • Blues scrum coach Ben Afeaki is also North Harbour scrum coach so has worked with Coventry

    • Akira Ioane seemingly staying for 2019. You have to wonder if knowledge that there would be a new forwards coach was a huge factor in this.

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    @kiwimurph Also, re Akira staying, it smells of NZR having their hand in keeping the Ioane Bro's in Auckland (IMHO of course).

    @number9 Regardless, the Warriors should always be top 8, also it's silly suggest that sacking the assistants are the key reason for the improvement (so far) at the Warriors this year. The obvious improvement has come from Luke's form and Green's arrival.

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    • SammyCS SammyC

      @number9 said in Blues 2019:

      @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

      It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

      Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

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      @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

      @number9 said in Blues 2019:

      @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

      It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

      Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

      True, but I'll bet any Blues fan on here would take that result for the 2019 Blues!

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      • gt12G gt12

        @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

        @number9 said in Blues 2019:

        @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

        It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

        Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

        True, but I'll bet any Blues fan on here would take that result for the 2019 Blues!

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        @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

        @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

        @number9 said in Blues 2019:

        @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

        It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

        Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

        True, but I'll bet any Blues fan on here would take that result for the 2019 Blues!

        But I bet they wouldn't call it "outstanding" though. That would still be behind all the other NZ teams.

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        • gt12G gt12

          @sammyc said in Blues 2019:

          @number9 said in Blues 2019:

          @mariner4life No different to the Warriors, fans were screaming for Kearneys's head the Board kept him and replaced his assistants, this year their results have been outstanding.

          It's completely different. Kearney is in his second year as coach. Umaga has already had 3 years of failure.

          Oh, and 7th place on the ladder is hardly "outstanding"

          True, but I'll bet any Blues fan on here would take that result for the 2019 Blues!

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          @gt12 depends if you asked them now or at the start of the season....

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @gt12 depends if you asked them now or at the start of the season....

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            @taniwharugby

            Now, today. Wouldn't you take it? 14th to 7th?

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            • gt12G gt12

              @taniwharugby

              Now, today. Wouldn't you take it? 14th to 7th?

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              @gt12 erm, surely any fan of any team would take that at this point??

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @gt12 erm, surely any fan of any team would take that at this point??

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                @taniwharugby

                I’d be pissed if the Chiefs were 7th next year, even though I expected it this year.

                But if I were a blues fan, I’d be all over that.

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                • gt12G gt12

                  @taniwharugby

                  I’d be pissed if the Chiefs were 7th next year, even though I expected it this year.

                  But if I were a blues fan, I’d be all over that.

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                  @gt12 thats not what you said, you said if you had just finished 14th and someone offered you 7th, would you take it, which anyone would...that said, you can still be pissed off with it.

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @gt12 thats not what you said, you said if you had just finished 14th and someone offered you 7th, would you take it, which anyone would...that said, you can still be pissed off with it.

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                    @taniwharugby

                    I see what you're saying, and absolutely true - if the chiefs were 14th, I'd take 7th next year in a heartbeat.

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                      I see that Toa Halafihi is back for Taranaki. Might be a good option for backup at 8 and 6. He is listed as 191cm and 102kg though, so he might not be big enough? Hurricanes website has him at 189cm and 106kg though.

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                      • gt12G gt12

                        @taniwharugby

                        I’d be pissed if the Chiefs were 7th next year, even though I expected it this year.

                        But if I were a blues fan, I’d be all over that.

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                        @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

                        @taniwharugby

                        I’d be pissed if the Chiefs were 7th next year, even though I expected it this year.

                        But if I were a blues fan, I’d be all over that.

                        I wouldn’t. Semis or above is a good season, rest is just dross.

                        What’s happening for the past three years of Tana is the dismantling of a franchise.

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                          James Parsons has committed to another year for the Blues. He wants to play 100 games and be part of the change to get the club back to where it needs to be.

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                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12092668

                            It is understood one of the reasons why Ioane, 23, agreed to stay at the Blues is the chance to work with Coventry, a straight-shooter who won two Super Rugby titles as Dave Rennie's assistant at the Chiefs. The former Waikato loose forward is eager to take up the challenge.

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                              So Luatua is about to start the second of his two years with Bristol. I wonder if he will be back for the Blues in 2020?

                              Would make for a great loose-forward roster:

                              Luatua
                              Ioane
                              Gibson
                              Papali'i

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                              • TimT Tim

                                James Parsons has committed to another year for the Blues. He wants to play 100 games and be part of the change to get the club back to where it needs to be.

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                                @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                James Parsons has committed to another year for the Blues. He wants to play 100 games and be part of the change to get the club back to where it needs to be.

                                Is that Parsons? I didn’t recognise him at all without the headgear.

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                                  @Stargazer keeps track of the various SR signings. He made a list of the current announced Blues signings here:

                                  https://www.thesilverfern.com/2018/07/22/blues-2019-discussion/

                                  The first thing that stands out is how little information has been released about who is playing next year. Compare that list to the Chiefs one (also on the front page). The Chiefs have 24 names confirmed, the Blues only 14 so far

                                  Of course many more will be signed. It's just another example of the lack of communication to the fans about what is going on.

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                                    Can I suggest relocation? There is currently a grossly under represented region of NZ that the Blues could find real success.

                                    The Chatham Islands.

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                                    • raznomoreR raznomore

                                      Can I suggest relocation? There is currently a grossly under represented region of NZ that the Blues could find real success.

                                      The Chatham Islands.

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                                      @raznomore said in Blues 2019:

                                      Can I suggest relocation? There is currently a grossly under represented region of NZ that the Blues could find real success.

                                      The Chatham Islands.

                                      i assumed you were about to say the Gold Coast...

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                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092667

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                                          So many articles barley mention Umaga and are talking up Coventry and/or MacDonald like they are in charge.

                                          Either Umaga is being given a soft exit or he's on a hiding to nothing.

                                          We'll know if Umaga opts for an 'exciting new challenge' of coaching a side in world series rugby sometime next year.
                                          It sounds far fetched until you remember the same Blues board wanted to give Kirwan another year. That bizarre plan was all about protecting Kirwans reputation after three poor years..

                                          A hiding to nothing? Well, if the Blues suck again Umaga will get the blame. If there is an improvement Coventry and MacDonald will be getting the credit for turning around Umaga's mess

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