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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #297

    I see that Toa Halafihi is back for Taranaki. Might be a good option for backup at 8 and 6. He is listed as 191cm and 102kg though, so he might not be big enough? Hurricanes website has him at 189cm and 106kg though.

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    • gt12G gt12

      @taniwharugby

      I’d be pissed if the Chiefs were 7th next year, even though I expected it this year.

      But if I were a blues fan, I’d be all over that.

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      @gt12 said in Blues 2019:

      @taniwharugby

      I’d be pissed if the Chiefs were 7th next year, even though I expected it this year.

      But if I were a blues fan, I’d be all over that.

      I wouldn’t. Semis or above is a good season, rest is just dross.

      What’s happening for the past three years of Tana is the dismantling of a franchise.

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        James Parsons has committed to another year for the Blues. He wants to play 100 games and be part of the change to get the club back to where it needs to be.

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          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12092668

          It is understood one of the reasons why Ioane, 23, agreed to stay at the Blues is the chance to work with Coventry, a straight-shooter who won two Super Rugby titles as Dave Rennie's assistant at the Chiefs. The former Waikato loose forward is eager to take up the challenge.

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          • TimT Away
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            #301

            So Luatua is about to start the second of his two years with Bristol. I wonder if he will be back for the Blues in 2020?

            Would make for a great loose-forward roster:

            Luatua
            Ioane
            Gibson
            Papali'i

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            • TimT Tim

              James Parsons has committed to another year for the Blues. He wants to play 100 games and be part of the change to get the club back to where it needs to be.

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              @tim said in Blues 2019:

              James Parsons has committed to another year for the Blues. He wants to play 100 games and be part of the change to get the club back to where it needs to be.

              Is that Parsons? I didn’t recognise him at all without the headgear.

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              • DuluthD Offline
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                @Stargazer keeps track of the various SR signings. He made a list of the current announced Blues signings here:

                https://www.thesilverfern.com/2018/07/22/blues-2019-discussion/

                The first thing that stands out is how little information has been released about who is playing next year. Compare that list to the Chiefs one (also on the front page). The Chiefs have 24 names confirmed, the Blues only 14 so far

                Of course many more will be signed. It's just another example of the lack of communication to the fans about what is going on.

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                  Can I suggest relocation? There is currently a grossly under represented region of NZ that the Blues could find real success.

                  The Chatham Islands.

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                  • raznomoreR raznomore

                    Can I suggest relocation? There is currently a grossly under represented region of NZ that the Blues could find real success.

                    The Chatham Islands.

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                    @raznomore said in Blues 2019:

                    Can I suggest relocation? There is currently a grossly under represented region of NZ that the Blues could find real success.

                    The Chatham Islands.

                    i assumed you were about to say the Gold Coast...

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                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12092667

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                        So many articles barley mention Umaga and are talking up Coventry and/or MacDonald like they are in charge.

                        Either Umaga is being given a soft exit or he's on a hiding to nothing.

                        We'll know if Umaga opts for an 'exciting new challenge' of coaching a side in world series rugby sometime next year.
                        It sounds far fetched until you remember the same Blues board wanted to give Kirwan another year. That bizarre plan was all about protecting Kirwans reputation after three poor years..

                        A hiding to nothing? Well, if the Blues suck again Umaga will get the blame. If there is an improvement Coventry and MacDonald will be getting the credit for turning around Umaga's mess

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                          To answer some of the questions in @Stargazer post

                          Who of the players that played in 2018, but weren't in the initial squad, would you like to see signed for 2019 (or longer)?

                          Tumua Manu I'd sign to a full deal. He can play midfield and wing. Every chance he got he played well. Low error rate, good defender, underrated finisher. Very useful.

                          I'd be very tempted to sign Sione Havilli as a 7 in place of Taramai. He's on the small side but highly rated and looked sharp in the very limited chances he got in Super Rugby.

                          Which player, who hasn't been signed yet, but played for the Blues in 2018, don't you want to be signed?

                          Jordan Trainor I'd flick. To me he's just too small for Super Rugby. His contribution this year was getting needlessly yellow carded. I know he is one they signed to quite a long deal hoping he would develop but it just has not happened.

                          Taramai I'd let go. Maybe Coventry can get more out of him but for all his high energy he offers very little impact. He falls off tackles repeatedly.

                          Preston I'd move on from. I know he was injured a lot

                          Who of the players of the initial 2018 squad would you like to see signed for 2019 (or longer)?

                          Perofeta, Clarke, Papali'i, Ioanes x 2, Goodhue. They would be the priorities.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            To answer some of the questions in @Stargazer post

                            Who of the players that played in 2018, but weren't in the initial squad, would you like to see signed for 2019 (or longer)?

                            Tumua Manu I'd sign to a full deal. He can play midfield and wing. Every chance he got he played well. Low error rate, good defender, underrated finisher. Very useful.

                            I'd be very tempted to sign Sione Havilli as a 7 in place of Taramai. He's on the small side but highly rated and looked sharp in the very limited chances he got in Super Rugby.

                            Which player, who hasn't been signed yet, but played for the Blues in 2018, don't you want to be signed?

                            Jordan Trainor I'd flick. To me he's just too small for Super Rugby. His contribution this year was getting needlessly yellow carded. I know he is one they signed to quite a long deal hoping he would develop but it just has not happened.

                            Taramai I'd let go. Maybe Coventry can get more out of him but for all his high energy he offers very little impact. He falls off tackles repeatedly.

                            Preston I'd move on from. I know he was injured a lot

                            Who of the players of the initial 2018 squad would you like to see signed for 2019 (or longer)?

                            Perofeta, Clarke, Papali'i, Ioanes x 2, Goodhue. They would be the priorities.

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                            Tim
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                            @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                            To answer some of the questions in @Stargazer post

                            Who of the players that played in 2018, but weren't in the initial squad, would you like to see signed for 2019 (or longer)?

                            Tumua Manu I'd sign to a full deal. He can play midfield and wing. Every chance he got he played well. Low error rate, good defender, underrated finisher. Very useful.

                            Leger should be signed too. Hands off Chiefs.

                            I'd be very tempted to sign Sione Havilli as a 7 in place of Taramai. He's on the small side but highly rated and looked sharp in the very limited chances he got in Super Rugby.

                            Which player, who hasn't been signed yet, but played for the Blues in 2018, don't you want to be signed?

                            Jordan Trainor I'd flick. To me he's just too small for Super Rugby. His contribution this year was getting needlessly yellow carded. I know he is one they signed to quite a long deal hoping he would develop but it just has not happened.

                            Taramai I'd let go. Maybe Coventry can get more out of him but for all his high energy he offers very little impact. He falls off tackles repeatedly.

                            Preston I'd move on from. I know he was injured a lot

                            Who of the players of the initial 2018 squad would you like to see signed for 2019 (or longer)?

                            Perofeta, Clarke, Papali'i, Ioanes x 2, Goodhue. They would be the priorities.

                            I'd add Pauliasi Manu - not too many loosehead props going around.

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                            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                              To answer some of the questions in @Stargazer post

                              Who of the players that played in 2018, but weren't in the initial squad, would you like to see signed for 2019 (or longer)?

                              Tumua Manu I'd sign to a full deal. He can play midfield and wing. Every chance he got he played well. Low error rate, good defender, underrated finisher. Very useful.

                              I'd be very tempted to sign Sione Havilli as a 7 in place of Taramai. He's on the small side but highly rated and looked sharp in the very limited chances he got in Super Rugby.

                              Which player, who hasn't been signed yet, but played for the Blues in 2018, don't you want to be signed?

                              Jordan Trainor I'd flick. To me he's just too small for Super Rugby. His contribution this year was getting needlessly yellow carded. I know he is one they signed to quite a long deal hoping he would develop but it just has not happened.

                              Taramai I'd let go. Maybe Coventry can get more out of him but for all his high energy he offers very little impact. He falls off tackles repeatedly.

                              Preston I'd move on from. I know he was injured a lot

                              Who of the players of the initial 2018 squad would you like to see signed for 2019 (or longer)?

                              Perofeta, Clarke, Papali'i, Ioanes x 2, Goodhue. They would be the priorities.

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                              @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                              Jordan Trainor I'd flick. To me he's just too small for Super Rugby. His contribution this year was getting needlessly yellow carded. I know he is one they signed to quite a long deal hoping he would develop but it just has not happened.

                              He shouldn't be in the Auckland XV either. Bench NPC option at best

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                                Jordan Trainor I'd flick. To me he's just too small for Super Rugby. His contribution this year was getting needlessly yellow carded. I know he is one they signed to quite a long deal hoping he would develop but it just has not happened.

                                He shouldn't be in the Auckland XV either. Bench NPC option at best

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                                @duluth said in Blues 2019:

                                @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                                Jordan Trainor I'd flick. To me he's just too small for Super Rugby. His contribution this year was getting needlessly yellow carded. I know he is one they signed to quite a long deal hoping he would develop but it just has not happened.

                                He shouldn't be in the Auckland XV either. Bench NPC option at best

                                I would also add leni apisai has been a huge disappointment and Ben nee nee is not up to it.
                                In the backs Sam nock has had enough chances

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                                  I'll add a couple of categories:

                                  Which off-contract players do you want to see signed from other clubs?

                                  Shaun Stevenson, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Michael Little (status uncertain), Luke Romano, Quinten Strange, Mitchell Dunshea.

                                  Which positions to be filled will you be watching for in the Mitre 10 Cup?

                                  Backup 6 and 8, third 7. Backups for all front-row positions. Fourth/Fifth Lock. Halfback, Midfield.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    I'll add a couple of categories:

                                    Which off-contract players do you want to see signed from other clubs?

                                    Shaun Stevenson, Karl Tu'inukuafe, Michael Little (status uncertain), Luke Romano, Quinten Strange, Mitchell Dunshea.

                                    Which positions to be filled will you be watching for in the Mitre 10 Cup?

                                    Backup 6 and 8, third 7. Backups for all front-row positions. Fourth/Fifth Lock. Halfback, Midfield.

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                                    #313

                                    @tim I'd add outside backs to this list. Looking at this year's squad Trainor as previously discussed should be cut loose. Hyland whilst a trier is probably too slow for a full time spot, Rieko might be playing 13 (hopefully not 12!). More talent is needed in this area. There's sure to be plenty around in the NPC.

                                    waits for joke about "so you're looking for a whole new squad" to be posted

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                                    • TimT Away
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                                      Tim
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                                      #314

                                      @rocky-rockbottom And he's from the Hibiscus Coast - probably born and educated there when it was still bogan and a League town.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @tim I'd add outside backs to this list. Looking at this year's squad Trainor as previously discussed should be cut loose. Hyland whilst a trier is probably too slow for a full time spot, Rieko might be playing 13 (hopefully not 12!). More talent is needed in this area. There's sure to be plenty around in the NPC.

                                        waits for joke about "so you're looking for a whole new squad" to be posted

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                                        @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                                        I'd add outside backs to this list. Looking at this year's squad Trainor as previously discussed should be cut loose. Hyland whilst a trier is probably too slow for a full time spot, Rieko might be playing 13 (hopefully not 12!). More talent is needed in this area. There's sure to be plenty around in the NPC.

                                        Ravouvou could be an option if he gets enough game time with Auckland. He's been close to SR before, he trained with the Chiefs last year

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                                          I'd add outside backs to this list. Looking at this year's squad Trainor as previously discussed should be cut loose. Hyland whilst a trier is probably too slow for a full time spot, Rieko might be playing 13 (hopefully not 12!). More talent is needed in this area. There's sure to be plenty around in the NPC.

                                          Ravouvou could be an option if he gets enough game time with Auckland. He's been close to SR before, he trained with the Chiefs last year

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                                          @duluth Good call. Was thinking that when watching the 7s this weekend. He was excellent at times for Auckland last year.

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