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Blues 2019

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  • TimT Offline
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    Tim
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    #340

    I wonder if they're angling for Angus Ta'avao too? He probably won't get much game time if the Chiefs props stay healthy.

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    • TimT Offline
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      #341

      Forward pack is starting to shape up.

      1 Karl T
      2 Parsons/Moulds
      3 Ofa T
      4 Scrafton
      5
      6
      7 Gibson
      8 Ioane

      16 Moulds/Parsons
      17 Hodgman
      18
      19 Tuipulotu
      20 Papali'i

      Starting 5 and 6, and reserve tighthead are the positions of contention. Might be nice to have some experience at 5 and 6, or perhaps a couple from the Crusaders ...

      Without recruitment, Cowley-Tuioti and Goodhue will be a good contest for lock, and Papali'i might have enough NPC under his belt to be the regular starter at 6. Tupou is the other option in the squad, with Hoskins Sotuto probably being a bit raw. I still think that six could be Ioane's best position

      Off contract locks:

      Luke Romano, Quentin Strange, Scott Pierce, Ben Nee Nee, Mitchell Dunshea, Pari Pari Parkinson.

      Off contract sixes and eights:

      Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Pita Gus Sowakula, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Slade, Toa Halafihi, Glenn Preston.

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      • TimT Tim

        Forward pack is starting to shape up.

        1 Karl T
        2 Parsons/Moulds
        3 Ofa T
        4 Scrafton
        5
        6
        7 Gibson
        8 Ioane

        16 Moulds/Parsons
        17 Hodgman
        18
        19 Tuipulotu
        20 Papali'i

        Starting 5 and 6, and reserve tighthead are the positions of contention. Might be nice to have some experience at 5 and 6, or perhaps a couple from the Crusaders ...

        Without recruitment, Cowley-Tuioti and Goodhue will be a good contest for lock, and Papali'i might have enough NPC under his belt to be the regular starter at 6. Tupou is the other option in the squad, with Hoskins Sotuto probably being a bit raw. I still think that six could be Ioane's best position

        Off contract locks:

        Luke Romano, Quentin Strange, Scott Pierce, Ben Nee Nee, Mitchell Dunshea, Pari Pari Parkinson.

        Off contract sixes and eights:

        Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Pita Gus Sowakula, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Slade, Toa Halafihi, Glenn Preston.

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        mariner4life
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        #342

        @tim Reiko is pretty good at jumping, maybe you could play him at 6. Would also move him even closer to the action, he's wasted out there at 12.

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @tim Reiko is pretty good at jumping, maybe you could play him at 6. Would also move him even closer to the action, he's wasted out there at 12.

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          #343

          @mariner4life Let me have my 5 minutes! 😉

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            KiwiMurph
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            #344

            Riedlinger-Kapa could be an option as a lock/6.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Riedlinger-Kapa could be an option as a lock/6.

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              Tim
              wrote on last edited by Tim
              #345

              @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

              Riedlinger-Kapa

              True, but I honestly think that we have lots of up-and-comers available, but lack that bit of experience.

              Great player for the dev squad though.

              Luke Romano would be a great signing for next year.

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              • TimT Tim

                @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                Riedlinger-Kapa

                True, but I honestly think that we have lots of up-and-comers available, but lack that bit of experience.

                Great player for the dev squad though.

                Luke Romano would be a great signing for next year.

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                taniwharugby
                wrote on last edited by taniwharugby
                #346

                @tim said in Blues 2019:

                Luke Romano would be a great signing for next year.

                So would Brodie or Sam, but are any likely? 😉

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @tim said in Blues 2019:

                  Luke Romano would be a great signing for next year.

                  So would Brodie or Sam, but are any likely? 😉

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                  Tim
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                  #347

                  @taniwharugby At least Romano's an unsigned bench player! 🙂

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                  • TimT Tim

                    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                    True, but I honestly think that we have lots of up-and-comers available, but lack that bit of experience.

                    Great player for the dev squad though.

                    Luke Romano would be a great signing for next year.

                    KiwiMurphK Offline
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                    KiwiMurph
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #348

                    @tim said in Blues 2019:

                    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                    True, but I honestly think that we have lots of up-and-comers available, but lack that bit of experience.

                    Great player for the dev squad though.

                    That's true - but others squads can snap up players that are only offered development/wider squad contracts (think Alaimalo and Taleni Seu).

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                    • TimT Offline
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                      Tim
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #349

                      A lot to look out for the Mitre 10 Cup now. Really looking forward to scrums between Blues' teams, Counties, and Taranaki.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @tim said in Blues 2019:

                        @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                        Riedlinger-Kapa

                        True, but I honestly think that we have lots of up-and-comers available, but lack that bit of experience.

                        Great player for the dev squad though.

                        That's true - but others squads can snap up players that are only offered development/wider squad contracts (think Alaimalo and Taleni Seu).

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                        taniwharugby
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                        #350

                        @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                        That's true - but others squads can snap up players that are only offered development/wider squad contracts (think Alaimalo and Taleni Seu).

                        dont think Alaimalo was in a WTG, thought he went straight into Chiefs (had heard they were looking at him before he even signed for Northland)

                        Problem is, you cannot sign everyone, and this is where they are coming unstuck signing kids for 3 or 4 seasons, and then they do not progress as they are expected (example here would be Nock)

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                          That's true - but others squads can snap up players that are only offered development/wider squad contracts (think Alaimalo and Taleni Seu).

                          dont think Alaimalo was in a WTG, thought he went straight into Chiefs (had heard they were looking at him before he even signed for Northland)

                          Problem is, you cannot sign everyone, and this is where they are coming unstuck signing kids for 3 or 4 seasons, and then they do not progress as they are expected (example here would be Nock)

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                          KiwiMurph
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                          #351

                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                          @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                          That's true - but others squads can snap up players that are only offered development/wider squad contracts (think Alaimalo and Taleni Seu).

                          dont think Alaimalo was in a WTG, thought he went straight into Chiefs (had heard they were looking at him before he even signed for Northland)

                          Problem is, you cannot sign everyone, and this is where they are coming unstuck signing kids for 3 or 4 seasons, and then they do not progress as they are expected (example here would be Nock)

                          I believe Blues only offered Alaimalo a WTG spot - same with Seu.

                          Agreed about signing youngsters - when I said 'could' be an option - what I meant was could be an option depending on Mitre 10 Cup form. The likes of Alaimalo and Seu showed enough in Mitre 10 Cup that suggested they were more than up to Super standard. Whereas the likes of Nock and Trainor were given contracts without showing anything at Mitre 10 Cup level.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                            @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                            That's true - but others squads can snap up players that are only offered development/wider squad contracts (think Alaimalo and Taleni Seu).

                            dont think Alaimalo was in a WTG, thought he went straight into Chiefs (had heard they were looking at him before he even signed for Northland)

                            Problem is, you cannot sign everyone, and this is where they are coming unstuck signing kids for 3 or 4 seasons, and then they do not progress as they are expected (example here would be Nock)

                            I believe Blues only offered Alaimalo a WTG spot - same with Seu.

                            Agreed about signing youngsters - when I said 'could' be an option - what I meant was could be an option depending on Mitre 10 Cup form. The likes of Alaimalo and Seu showed enough in Mitre 10 Cup that suggested they were more than up to Super standard. Whereas the likes of Nock and Trainor were given contracts without showing anything at Mitre 10 Cup level.

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                            Tim
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #352

                            @kiwimurph We need @Steven-Harris in here to clear this up.

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                            • TimT Tim

                              Forward pack is starting to shape up.

                              1 Karl T
                              2 Parsons/Moulds
                              3 Ofa T
                              4 Scrafton
                              5
                              6
                              7 Gibson
                              8 Ioane

                              16 Moulds/Parsons
                              17 Hodgman
                              18
                              19 Tuipulotu
                              20 Papali'i

                              Starting 5 and 6, and reserve tighthead are the positions of contention. Might be nice to have some experience at 5 and 6, or perhaps a couple from the Crusaders ...

                              Without recruitment, Cowley-Tuioti and Goodhue will be a good contest for lock, and Papali'i might have enough NPC under his belt to be the regular starter at 6. Tupou is the other option in the squad, with Hoskins Sotuto probably being a bit raw. I still think that six could be Ioane's best position

                              Off contract locks:

                              Luke Romano, Quentin Strange, Scott Pierce, Ben Nee Nee, Mitchell Dunshea, Pari Pari Parkinson.

                              Off contract sixes and eights:

                              Heiden Bedwell-Curtis, Pita Gus Sowakula, Mitchell Dunshea, Sam Slade, Toa Halafihi, Glenn Preston.

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                              Duluth
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #353

                              @tim Papali'i should be the starting 6. He can move to 7 when Gibson breaks again

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                                @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                                That's true - but others squads can snap up players that are only offered development/wider squad contracts (think Alaimalo and Taleni Seu).

                                dont think Alaimalo was in a WTG, thought he went straight into Chiefs (had heard they were looking at him before he even signed for Northland)

                                Problem is, you cannot sign everyone, and this is where they are coming unstuck signing kids for 3 or 4 seasons, and then they do not progress as they are expected (example here would be Nock)

                                I believe Blues only offered Alaimalo a WTG spot - same with Seu.

                                Agreed about signing youngsters - when I said 'could' be an option - what I meant was could be an option depending on Mitre 10 Cup form. The likes of Alaimalo and Seu showed enough in Mitre 10 Cup that suggested they were more than up to Super standard. Whereas the likes of Nock and Trainor were given contracts without showing anything at Mitre 10 Cup level.

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                                taniwharugby
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                                #354

                                @kiwimurph ah ok, yeah he wasnt in the WTG, I think you are right in that they had offered him a WTG contract but the Chiefs had been looking at him anyway and offered a full contract (think he may have played for the Crusaders development team before coming to Northland)

                                @Tim he's in Tahiti!

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                                  #355

                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12095821

                                  It's also believed that there could yet be more arrivals pending at the Blues - signings that have been made possible thanks to the arrival of Coventry, who has is respected nationwide for his ability to get the best out of forwards.
                                  
                                  It is believed that Akira Ioane committed to the Blues - he was talking to the Hurricanes - once he knew Coventry was on board.
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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                                    True, but I honestly think that we have lots of up-and-comers available, but lack that bit of experience.

                                    Great player for the dev squad though.

                                    Luke Romano would be a great signing for next year.

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                                    SammyC
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #356

                                    @tim said in Blues 2019:

                                    @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                                    Riedlinger-Kapa

                                    True, but I honestly think that we have lots of up-and-comers available, but lack that bit of experience.

                                    Great player for the dev squad though.

                                    Luke Romano would be a great signing for next year.

                                    Romano won’t sign, if he doesn’t make the crusaders squad next year I’d expect a move into coaching.

                                    I think your best chance of pinching a lock from us is dunshea. Not sure they rate him that highly now that Quentin Strange has come along.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                                      @kiwimurph said in Blues 2019:

                                      That's true - but others squads can snap up players that are only offered development/wider squad contracts (think Alaimalo and Taleni Seu).

                                      dont think Alaimalo was in a WTG, thought he went straight into Chiefs (had heard they were looking at him before he even signed for Northland)

                                      Problem is, you cannot sign everyone, and this is where they are coming unstuck signing kids for 3 or 4 seasons, and then they do not progress as they are expected (example here would be Nock)

                                      I believe Blues only offered Alaimalo a WTG spot - same with Seu.

                                      Agreed about signing youngsters - when I said 'could' be an option - what I meant was could be an option depending on Mitre 10 Cup form. The likes of Alaimalo and Seu showed enough in Mitre 10 Cup that suggested they were more than up to Super standard. Whereas the likes of Nock and Trainor were given contracts without showing anything at Mitre 10 Cup level.

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                                      @kiwimurph Trainor got signed due to his form with Waikato where he was pretty decent.

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @tim Papali'i should be the starting 6. He can move to 7 when Gibson breaks again

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                                        @duluth said in Blues 2019:

                                        @tim Papali'i should be the starting 6. He can move to 7 when Gibson breaks again

                                        One of the first on the teamsheet to me. I think he's our best 6, but he might also be our best 7 too.

                                        It'll be interesting to see where Auckland play Papali'i if Akira is with the All Blacks. He might end up playing 8 this NPC season with Gibson and Havili on the flanks.

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                                        • DiceD Dice

                                          @kiwimurph Trainor got signed due to his form with Waikato where he was pretty decent.

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                                          @dice said in Blues 2019:

                                          @kiwimurph Trainor got signed due to his form with Waikato where he was pretty decent.

                                          I'm fairly certain Trainor played about 1 or 2 games for Waikato that year (one was a shield game from memory).

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