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We rode our luck but discipline and substitutions saw us home.
Fair play to Pivac, picked the right 15 to start and the right finishers.
Hardy was good but didn't learn with the box kicks.
Biggar is frustrating as fuck but did everything right for that first try. Had the ref focussed on telling him when time was on not Farrell.
Sheedy came of age this evening.
Fair play to Farrell. All class in the post match interview. Unlike Sonja. The witch.
England could easily have won that but the players who normally finish strong were already spent.
Triple Crown. Who'd have thunk it.
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
We rode our luck but discipline and substitutions saw us home.
Fair play to Pivac, picked the right 15 to start and the right finishers.
Hardy was good but didn't learn with the box kicks.
Biggar is frustrating as fuck but did everything right for that first try. Had the ref focussed on telling him when time was on not Farrell.
Sheedy came of age this evening.
Fair play to Farrell. All class in the post match interview. Unlike Sonja. The witch.
England could easily have won that but the players who normally finish strong were already spent.
Triple Crown. Who'd have thunk it.
Enjoy the Brains, Snowman!
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@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
No sympathy. I hope the BBC don't use her again. Embarrassing and tone deaf.
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@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
Abuse for doing your job terribly.
Interestingly no tweets ftom the French officials.
Sonja played the 'Tiny Tears' female card.
Welcome to rugby.
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Welcome to rugby.
Not excusing the abuse, but she's really not welcome if she carries on with that line of baiting in after-match interviews. Someone should explain it isn't soccer.
Great to Farrell not rising to the bait.
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Welcome to rugby.
Not excusing the abuse, but she's really not welcome if she carries on with that line of baiting in after-match interviews. Someone should explain it isn't soccer.
Great to Farrell not rising to the bait.
@victor-meldrew said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Welcome to rugby.
Not excusing the abuse, but she's really not welcome if she carries on with that line of baiting in after-match interviews. Someone should explain it isn't soccer.
Great to Farrell not rising to the bait.
Abuse was the word she used.
Haven’t read the tweets but if it’s critical of her interview and her questions rather than her sex then fair game
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@victor-meldrew said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Welcome to rugby.
Not excusing the abuse, but she's really not welcome if she carries on with that line of baiting in after-match interviews. Someone should explain it isn't soccer.
Great to Farrell not rising to the bait.
Abuse was the word she used.
Haven’t read the tweets but if it’s critical of her interview and her questions rather than her sex then fair game
I just assumed it was abuse, Mike. Then again, these days simply disagreeing with someone seems to be regarded as abuse.
And I'm not going into the Twitter cesspit to find out...
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I just assumed it was abuse, Mike. Then again, these days simply disagreeing with someone seems to be regarded as abuse.
And I'm not going into the Twitter cesspit to find out...
@victor-meldrew said in NH International Rugby:
I just assumed it was abuse, Mike. Then again, these days simply disagreeing with someone seems to be regarded as abuse.
And I'm not going into the Twitter cesspit to find out...
in fairness, if you're a public figure on Twitter, you are going to cop genuine abuse, not just criticism.
The problem is that genuine criticism of a sustained pattern of trolling interviews will be deflected by some muppet keyboard warriors
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@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
Is that her? You bang on with her stitch up, or attempted was pleased how farrell and Wyn-Jones handles her.
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Ach. Shithouse. Firstly, awful refereeing. First try was a complete shocker. Big ups for Biggar and Adams for the foresight and execution but damn that was poor from the ref. Second try, knock on definitely in real time but on replay I have no argument. If he’d fumbled if but managed to kick it forward it would not be an issue, so why is it an issue if he fumbles it and kicks it backwards? Cannot blame the referee for the loss though, we’d put those decisions behind us and got parity but then discipline let us down badly. Itoje copping a lot of grief but mostly unfairly imo. That attempt to disrupt the 9 at the line out deemed as a deliberate knock on? FFS is competition for the ball not allowed?
However well done Wales on a triple crown. You played the intelligent rugby today.
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Ach. Shithouse. Firstly, awful refereeing. First try was a complete shocker. Big ups for Biggar and Adams for the foresight and execution but damn that was poor from the ref. Second try, knock on definitely in real time but on replay I have no argument. If he’d fumbled if but managed to kick it forward it would not be an issue, so why is it an issue if he fumbles it and kicks it backwards? Cannot blame the referee for the loss though, we’d put those decisions behind us and got parity but then discipline let us down badly. Itoje copping a lot of grief but mostly unfairly imo. That attempt to disrupt the 9 at the line out deemed as a deliberate knock on? FFS is competition for the ball not allowed?
However well done Wales on a triple crown. You played the intelligent rugby today.
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
However well done Wales on a triple crown. You played the intelligent rugby today.
Life in the Time of COVID
Crazy
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@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
That might be the single most pathetic statement I've ever seen. In the car crying over Twitter feedback?
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@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
What a fuckwit. She tries to embarrass and disgrace with her toxic interviews and then comes out with this tripe. Your job isn't to be a cunting troll.
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@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
However well done Wales on a triple crown. You played the intelligent rugby today.
Life in the Time of COVID
Crazy
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
However well done Wales on a triple crown. You played the intelligent rugby today.
Life in the Time of COVID
Crazy
Coming on all Marquez?!
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Good to see the usual Eddie Jones cycle continues
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@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@junior it went forward. Or was he standing still?
I can’t be assed to check, but it hit the ground closer to English goal line than when it left his hands can we all agree it was forward?
@pakman said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@junior it went forward. Or was he standing still?
I can’t be assed to check, but it hit the ground closer to English goal line than when it left his hands can we all agree it was forward?
It depends... are knock-ons defined the same way as forward-passes are now?
ie: "forward out of the hands"
If yes - then I can understand the decision.
If not - then I can not. -
@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
What a fuckwit. She tries to embarrass and disgrace with her toxic interviews and then comes out with this tripe. Your job isn't to be a cunting troll.
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
What a fuckwit. She tries to embarrass and disgrace with her toxic interviews and then comes out with this tripe. Your job isn't to be a cunting troll.
Yeah - just watched it...
I kinda like that she's asking questions that I'd actually like to hear the answers to, (just like her interview with Eddie back in the day), BUT....
In this day and age she must know that the players/coaches simply aren't going to answer... and therefore, she's just stirring shit knowing that nobody can fight back.First good interview I've seen from Farrell - he seemed to know what was coming, and was pretty staunch in just shutting it down immediately. You could put subtitles over that interview, with him saying "Yeah, nah, fuck off with the muck-stirring, I ain't biting".
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@pakman said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@junior it went forward. Or was he standing still?
I can’t be assed to check, but it hit the ground closer to English goal line than when it left his hands can we all agree it was forward?
It depends... are knock-ons defined the same way as forward-passes are now?
ie: "forward out of the hands"
If yes - then I can understand the decision.
If not - then I can not.@kruse said in NH International Rugby:
@pakman said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@junior it went forward. Or was he standing still?
I can’t be assed to check, but it hit the ground closer to English goal line than when it left his hands can we all agree it was forward?
It depends... are knock-ons defined the same way as forward-passes are now?
ie: "forward out of the hands"
If yes - then I can understand the decision.
If not - then I can not.Nope, I'm pretty sure it's still defined as "towards the opposition's dead ball line"
The critical part of the law, as I read it, is whether the player has "lost possession of the ball" (not "lost control"). If a player drops it they haven't necessarily lost possession (otherwise just about every kick from hand would be a knock on). Posession is defined as "a team or individual in control of the ball or who are attempting to bring it under control". So you could argue that LRZ was still attempting to bring the ball under control at least until it hit his leg, in which case no knock-on.
Having said that, I was pretty surprised it was allowed to stand..
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@kruse said in NH International Rugby:
@pakman said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@junior it went forward. Or was he standing still?
I can’t be assed to check, but it hit the ground closer to English goal line than when it left his hands can we all agree it was forward?
It depends... are knock-ons defined the same way as forward-passes are now?
ie: "forward out of the hands"
If yes - then I can understand the decision.
If not - then I can not.Nope, I'm pretty sure it's still defined as "towards the opposition's dead ball line"
The critical part of the law, as I read it, is whether the player has "lost possession of the ball" (not "lost control"). If a player drops it they haven't necessarily lost possession (otherwise just about every kick from hand would be a knock on). Posession is defined as "a team or individual in control of the ball or who are attempting to bring it under control". So you could argue that LRZ was still attempting to bring the ball under control at least until it hit his leg, in which case no knock-on.
Having said that, I was pretty surprised it was allowed to stand..
@gibbonrib said in NH International Rugby:
@kruse said in NH International Rugby:
@pakman said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@junior it went forward. Or was he standing still?
I can’t be assed to check, but it hit the ground closer to English goal line than when it left his hands can we all agree it was forward?
It depends... are knock-ons defined the same way as forward-passes are now?
ie: "forward out of the hands"
If yes - then I can understand the decision.
If not - then I can not.Nope, I'm pretty sure it's still defined as "towards the opposition's dead ball line"
The critical part of the law, as I read it, is whether the player has "lost possession of the ball" (not "lost control"). If a player drops it they haven't necessarily lost possession (otherwise just about every kick from hand would be a knock on). Posession is defined as "a team or individual in control of the ball or who are attempting to bring it under control". So you could argue that LRZ was still attempting to bring the ball under control at least until it hit his leg, in which case no knock-on.
Having said that, I was pretty surprised it was allowed to stand..
So if he was attempting to bring it under control, he was in possession? In which case knock-on? Or have I read you wrong?
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@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
What a fuckwit. She tries to embarrass and disgrace with her toxic interviews and then comes out with this tripe. Your job isn't to be a cunting troll.
Yeah - just watched it...
I kinda like that she's asking questions that I'd actually like to hear the answers to, (just like her interview with Eddie back in the day), BUT....
In this day and age she must know that the players/coaches simply aren't going to answer... and therefore, she's just stirring shit knowing that nobody can fight back.First good interview I've seen from Farrell - he seemed to know what was coming, and was pretty staunch in just shutting it down immediately. You could put subtitles over that interview, with him saying "Yeah, nah, fuck off with the muck-stirring, I ain't biting".
@kruse said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@majorrage said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
Another dreadful interview by this horrible person. Shame, I thought the BBC coverage of this game otherwise was faultless.
Didn’t see it ... what happened? She’s updated this ....
I wonder if she’s used any of these words on her post match stitch ups, I mean interviews.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Sonjamclaughlan/status/1365757473462829066
What a fuckwit. She tries to embarrass and disgrace with her toxic interviews and then comes out with this tripe. Your job isn't to be a cunting troll.
Yeah - just watched it...
I kinda like that she's asking questions that I'd actually like to hear the answers to, (just like her interview with Eddie back in the day), BUT....
In this day and age she must know that the players/coaches simply aren't going to answer... and therefore, she's just stirring shit knowing that nobody can fight back.First good interview I've seen from Farrell - he seemed to know what was coming, and was pretty staunch in just shutting it down immediately. You could put subtitles over that interview, with him saying "Yeah, nah, fuck off with the muck-stirring, I ain't biting".
Yep, first time in my life I've ever thought "Good on you Owen, I like what you did there"
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@kruse said in NH International Rugby:
@pakman said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@junior it went forward. Or was he standing still?
I can’t be assed to check, but it hit the ground closer to English goal line than when it left his hands can we all agree it was forward?
It depends... are knock-ons defined the same way as forward-passes are now?
ie: "forward out of the hands"
If yes - then I can understand the decision.
If not - then I can not.Nope, I'm pretty sure it's still defined as "towards the opposition's dead ball line"
The critical part of the law, as I read it, is whether the player has "lost possession of the ball" (not "lost control"). If a player drops it they haven't necessarily lost possession (otherwise just about every kick from hand would be a knock on). Posession is defined as "a team or individual in control of the ball or who are attempting to bring it under control". So you could argue that LRZ was still attempting to bring the ball under control at least until it hit his leg, in which case no knock-on.
Having said that, I was pretty surprised it was allowed to stand..
@gibbonrib said in NH International Rugby:
@kruse said in NH International Rugby:
@pakman said in NH International Rugby:
@bones said in NH International Rugby:
@junior it went forward. Or was he standing still?
I can’t be assed to check, but it hit the ground closer to English goal line than when it left his hands can we all agree it was forward?
It depends... are knock-ons defined the same way as forward-passes are now?
ie: "forward out of the hands"
If yes - then I can understand the decision.
If not - then I can not.Nope, I'm pretty sure it's still defined as "towards the opposition's dead ball line"
The critical part of the law, as I read it, is whether the player has "lost possession of the ball" (not "lost control"). If a player drops it they haven't necessarily lost possession (otherwise just about every kick from hand would be a knock on). Posession is defined as "a team or individual in control of the ball or who are attempting to bring it under control". So you could argue that LRZ was still attempting to bring the ball under control at least until it hit his leg, in which case no knock-on.
The ball fortuitously hit his leg on the way to the ground. Don’t think you can really say he was attempting to bring it under control. Regardless of the legalese, the spirit of rugby would surely have that as a knock on IMO. Otherwise it was basically guy with flagrant knock on gets away with his crime on a technicality.
