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@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@gibbonrib said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
I like that. Can't see how anyone can say the first try was bogus after watching that.
Something of a different perspective but still a shit show. Did England have enough time to get the message across? Of course. Did some of their guys fan out? Yes. Did the ref tell England that time was going back on? No. Did he tell Biggar that time was going on? Yes. Did he check that England were ready for time going back on? No.
Farrell had stopped speaking to his players. Ten seconds later the ref blew his whistle and said time on. May had jogged to his wing. The Welsh water carriers were moving from the field of play. Watson and Ford were incredibly slow cover the wing. The kick was to perfection exposing their tardiness. Seeing all the angles, nowt wrong with that try and what the ref did.
Nope. That's just wrong. He said time on to Bigger. Blew this whistle, Biggar took the kick and he then said "time iron" with the ball already in play. Have another look at the video.
I have seen the video, thank you. Time is on when the ref blows his whistle. Elliot Daly was already on the other wing by that point. The ref doesn't have to wait for all the defending team to get back in position when the attacking team awarded a penalty want to play. The game goes at the speed of the ref's whistle.
Yeah I assumed that you'd seen the video, hence me saying have another look. Once you have, if you care to that is, answer whether what I'd said is correct, that he
- Said time is on to Biggar.
- He then blew his whistle.
- He then said in general time is on when the ball was already in flight.
For what it's worth I can see most of your points of view and agree to one degree or another with some. But taken as a whole that decision was just plain wrong. Ask yourself if your team was on the receiving end of that decision whether or not you'd be fuming. No ifs and buts, would you be fuming?
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
For what it's worth I can see most of your points of view and agree to one degree or another with some. But taken as a whole that decision was just plain wrong. Ask yourself if your team was on the receiving end of that decision whether or not you'd be fuming. No ifs and buts, would you be fuming?
France did it to us in RWC 2011 pool play.
I'm still dark about it
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
As a closet Wales fan, I'm pleasantly surprised at how they are going (albeit with a bit of red card help).
@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
Maybe if he'd named an experimental team, but this is virtually full strength, which says he's not taking Italy lightly
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@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
Maybe if he'd named an experimental team, but this is virtually full strength, which says he's not taking Italy lightly
@gibbonrib said in NH International Rugby:
@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
Maybe if he'd named an experimental team, but this is virtually full strength, which says he's not taking Italy lightly
Was the naming of the team before Thursday - not the strength of the team. Teams are named on Thursdays around here - it a long standing tradition.
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
As a closet Wales fan, I'm pleasantly surprised at how they are going (albeit with a bit of red card help).
@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
As a closet Wales fan, I'm pleasantly surprised at how they are going (albeit with a bit of red card help).
Putting down the marker.
Saying this is the team he's picking to go to Italy to get a BP win to go in to the final match of the 6N knowing a loss will probably give Wales the title.
Up to England and France to stop Wales getting the Grand Slam.
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@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
As a closet Wales fan, I'm pleasantly surprised at how they are going (albeit with a bit of red card help).
Putting down the marker.
Saying this is the team he's picking to go to Italy to get a BP win to go in to the final match of the 6N knowing a loss will probably give Wales the title.
Up to England and France to stop Wales getting the Grand Slam.
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
As a closet Wales fan, I'm pleasantly surprised at how they are going (albeit with a bit of red card help).
Putting down the marker.
Saying this is the team he's picking to go to Italy to get a BP win to go in to the final match of the 6N knowing a loss will probably give Wales the title.
Up to England and France to stop Wales getting the Grand Slam.
Erm. We had our chance and fucked it up.
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
As a closet Wales fan, I'm pleasantly surprised at how they are going (albeit with a bit of red card help).
Putting down the marker.
Saying this is the team he's picking to go to Italy to get a BP win to go in to the final match of the 6N knowing a loss will probably give Wales the title.
Up to England and France to stop Wales getting the Grand Slam.
Erm. We had our chance and fucked it up.
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
As a closet Wales fan, I'm pleasantly surprised at how they are going (albeit with a bit of red card help).
Putting down the marker.
Saying this is the team he's picking to go to Italy to get a BP win to go in to the final match of the 6N knowing a loss will probably give Wales the title.
Up to England and France to stop Wales getting the Grand Slam.
Erm. We had our chance and fucked it up.
True.
Should have read up to England to stop France getting the Slam, and France to stop Wales.
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@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
Pivac named the side early.
Yeah, not happy with that. Teams are named on Thursdays and he knows it, he's a Kiwi. We'd be accused of arrogance for that - "it's only Italy, just name a team whenever".
As a closet Wales fan, I'm pleasantly surprised at how they are going (albeit with a bit of red card help).
Putting down the marker.
Saying this is the team he's picking to go to Italy to get a BP win to go in to the final match of the 6N knowing a loss will probably give Wales the title.
Up to England and France to stop Wales getting the Grand Slam.
Erm. We had our chance and fucked it up.
True.
Should have read up to England to stop France getting the Slam, and France to stop Wales.
Yeah, I knew what you meant mate, I’m just feeling a bit nit-picky. Probably because I’ve got my first jab this afternoon and whilst I want it, I’m not exactly looking forward to it.
FWIW I don’t think we’ll do a number on France, so your boys will have to do it the hard way I’m afraid.
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England team to face France:
England: Malins; Watson, Slade, Farrell, May; Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, Cowan-Dickie, Sinckler, Itoje, Ewels, Wilson, Curry, B Vunipola.
Replacements: George, Genge, Stuart, Hill, Earl, Robson, Lawrence, Daly
Good to see Malins get a start at Fullback because 1) He has been lighting it up in the Premiership for Bristol and 2) Daly has proved that he is not a Fullback's arse, good player though he is.
I worry about Farrell who has looked short of a gallop and whether Billy V can bring the same tempo two games running. Wilson needs to get that bit of dog back too - he was anonymous v Scotland. I might have been tempted to go with Earl as a starter instead. God we miss Underhill.
I think this is a game that may be beyond us, I would be happy with just a performance, which is pretty damning in itself.
Oh and penalties in single figures please.
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England team to face France:
England: Malins; Watson, Slade, Farrell, May; Ford, Youngs; M Vunipola, Cowan-Dickie, Sinckler, Itoje, Ewels, Wilson, Curry, B Vunipola.
Replacements: George, Genge, Stuart, Hill, Earl, Robson, Lawrence, Daly
Good to see Malins get a start at Fullback because 1) He has been lighting it up in the Premiership for Bristol and 2) Daly has proved that he is not a Fullback's arse, good player though he is.
I worry about Farrell who has looked short of a gallop and whether Billy V can bring the same tempo two games running. Wilson needs to get that bit of dog back too - he was anonymous v Scotland. I might have been tempted to go with Earl as a starter instead. God we miss Underhill.
I think this is a game that may be beyond us, I would be happy with just a performance, which is pretty damning in itself.
Oh and penalties in single figures please.
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@daffy-jaffy Thanks. That does not increase my optimism.
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@daffy-jaffy Thanks. That does not increase my optimism.
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@daffy-jaffy Thanks. That does not increase my optimism.
All to play for on the final weekend then
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@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@daffy-jaffy Thanks. That does not increase my optimism.
All to play for on the final weekend then
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@daffy-jaffy Thanks. That does not increase my optimism.
All to play for on the final weekend then
Whose final weekend?
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@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@daffy-jaffy Thanks. That does not increase my optimism.
All to play for on the final weekend then
Whose final weekend?
@gibbonrib said in NH International Rugby:
@mikethesnow said in NH International Rugby:
@catogrande said in NH International Rugby:
@daffy-jaffy Thanks. That does not increase my optimism.
All to play for on the final weekend then
Whose final weekend?
Eddie’s
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Is that 936 caps in the starting Wales team? That's some serious experience a couple of years out from the world cup.
