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    #1969

    I was a fan of Lowe at the Chiefs but it's fair to say International is a step too far for him. Other kiwis Gibson-Park, Maitland and Berghan were serviceable.

    Russell and the Scottish lineout were fairly shocking, Ireland weren't great but deserved to win. I know Sexton isn't much loved globally but I would take him over Russell for the Lions any day.

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      #1970

      Ferners of a delicate disposition sit down.

      I thought Poite refereed very well.

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      • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

        I was a fan of Lowe at the Chiefs but it's fair to say International is a step too far for him. Other kiwis Gibson-Park, Maitland and Berghan were serviceable.

        Russell and the Scottish lineout were fairly shocking, Ireland weren't great but deserved to win. I know Sexton isn't much loved globally but I would take him over Russell for the Lions any day.

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        #1971

        @mofitzy_ said in NH International Rugby:

        I know Sexton isn't much loved globally but I would take him over Russell for the Lions any day.

        Agreed

        Last kick was superb.

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        • BonesB Bones

          Come on Scotland, we know you were a bunch of fluffybunnies at the last world cup but that was a temporary thing unlike Ireland, let's see you show you've stepped up a level.

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          #1972

          @bones said in NH International Rugby:

          Come on Scotland, we know you were a bunch of fluffybunnies at the last world cup but that was a temporary thing unlike Ireland, let's see you show you've stepped up a level.

          Sadly these lines are right

          All too familiar. Scotland, as ever, dangerous when expectation is low, are frustrated time and again when it creeps up high... For all the excitement of Twickenham in round one, there Scotland still reside, in that little niche of theirs just above Italy

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            #1973

            That pretty French try should have been wiped for.offside. the backs who caught the ball were well inside the 10 before the ball crossed the 15m mark.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              That pretty French try should have been wiped for.offside. the backs who caught the ball were well inside the 10 before the ball crossed the 15m mark.

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              #1974

              @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

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                #1975

                @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                I would need to see that in the laws

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                  @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                  I would need to see that in the laws

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                  #1976

                  @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                  @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                  I would need to see that in the laws

                  Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                  I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

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                  • BonesB Bones

                    @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                    @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                    @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                    I would need to see that in the laws

                    Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                    I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

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                    #1977

                    @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                    @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                    @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                    @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                    I would need to see that in the laws

                    Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                    I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                    Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                    You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                    That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                    Law 18.36

                    Once the ball has been thrown in by a team-mate, players who are not
                    participating in the lineout may move forward. If that occurs, then their
                    opponents may also move forward. If the ball does not go beyond the 15-metre
                    line, the players will not be liable to sanction if they immediately retire to their
                    respective offside lines.
                    **Sanction: Penalty**
                    
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                    • DamoD Damo

                      @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                      @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                      @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                      @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                      I would need to see that in the laws

                      Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                      I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                      Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                      You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                      That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                      Law 18.36

                      Once the ball has been thrown in by a team-mate, players who are not
                      participating in the lineout may move forward. If that occurs, then their
                      opponents may also move forward. If the ball does not go beyond the 15-metre
                      line, the players will not be liable to sanction if they immediately retire to their
                      respective offside lines.
                      **Sanction: Penalty**
                      
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                      #1978

                      @damo said in NH International Rugby:

                      @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                      @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                      @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                      @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                      I would need to see that in the laws

                      Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                      I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                      Estupido, as I recall.

                      You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                      That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                      Law 18.36

                      Once the ball has been thrown in by a team-mate, players who are not
                      participating in the lineout may move forward. If that occurs, then their
                      opponents may also move forward. If the ball does not go beyond the 15-metre
                      line, the players will not be liable to sanction if they immediately retire to their
                      respective offside lines.
                      **Sanction: Penalty**
                      

                      Frankly I remember the law being clearer than that. The "rewrite" they did of the laws a few years ago was pointless.

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                      • DamoD Damo

                        @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                        @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                        @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                        @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                        I would need to see that in the laws

                        Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                        I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                        Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                        You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                        That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                        Law 18.36

                        Once the ball has been thrown in by a team-mate, players who are not
                        participating in the lineout may move forward. If that occurs, then their
                        opponents may also move forward. If the ball does not go beyond the 15-metre
                        line, the players will not be liable to sanction if they immediately retire to their
                        respective offside lines.
                        **Sanction: Penalty**
                        
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                        Bones
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                        #1979

                        @damo I'm glad I'm not the only one who for some bizarre reason doesn't know that pretty important part of the laws. Be an interesting way to try and catch a defence out too if you're the attacking side, inside backs rush up to get the oppo to rush too, then quickly retreat and see if you can get a pen for them being offside.

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                          #1980

                          Thanks for that Damo, I retract my comment and it's a beautiful piece of rugby

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                            @damo I'm glad I'm not the only one who for some bizarre reason doesn't know that pretty important part of the laws. Be an interesting way to try and catch a defence out too if you're the attacking side, inside backs rush up to get the oppo to rush too, then quickly retreat and see if you can get a pen for them being offside.

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                            #1981

                            @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                            @damo I'm glad I'm not the only one who for some bizarre reason doesn't know that pretty important part of the laws. Be an interesting way to try and catch a defence out too if you're the attacking side, inside backs rush up to get the oppo to rush too, then quickly retreat and see if you can get a pen for them being offside.

                            I can't imagine too many refs would award a PK in that case where it's just a clear offside trap. Equity trumps law amongst most rugby refs. I.E. teams that go looking to hoodwink the other team and the ref don't often prosper.

                            I think the main use these days is for defensive lineouts on the 5m line. If you thrown the ball long the defensive players only need to go 5m whereas the attacking players are back 10m. It is quite an effective tactic to win the ball under no pressure.

                            Tony Brown has run a lot of attacking moves with a long throw during his time coaching Otago, the Highlanders and for Japan.

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                            • DamoD Damo

                              @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                              @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                              @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                              @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                              I would need to see that in the laws

                              Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                              I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                              Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                              You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                              That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                              Law 18.36

                              Once the ball has been thrown in by a team-mate, players who are not
                              participating in the lineout may move forward. If that occurs, then their
                              opponents may also move forward. If the ball does not go beyond the 15-metre
                              line, the players will not be liable to sanction if they immediately retire to their
                              respective offside lines.
                              **Sanction: Penalty**
                              
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                              #1982

                              @damo said in NH International Rugby:

                              @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                              @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                              @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                              @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                              I would need to see that in the laws

                              Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                              I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                              Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                              You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                              That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                              I always thought there was something not quite right about you. Clear as day now. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                @damo said in NH International Rugby:

                                @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                                I would need to see that in the laws

                                Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                                I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                                Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                                You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                                That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                                I always thought there was something not quite right about you. Clear as day now. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                                @catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                                @damo said in NH International Rugby:

                                @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                                I would need to see that in the laws

                                Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                                I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                                Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                                You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                                That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                                I always thought there was something not quite right about you. Clear as day now. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                                Those who can't play ... ref.

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                                • DamoD Damo

                                  @catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @damo said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                                  I would need to see that in the laws

                                  Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                                  I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                                  Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                                  You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                                  That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                                  I always thought there was something not quite right about you. Clear as day now. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                                  Those who can't play ... ref.

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                                  @damo said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @damo said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @mariner4life I thought I got schooled on here a year or two ago that you can go as soon as it's thrown if you're the receiver? Something like that.

                                  I would need to see that in the laws

                                  Yeah I've got no idea but I made a similar call as you and I think it was @Damo who informed me I was a stupido.

                                  I don't think I'm making that up. The laws seem to point to what you're saying on a quick glance though.

                                  Estupido, as I recall. I remember being grumpy about people not knowing what I considered a basic law. Apologies.

                                  You can run as soon as the ball leaves the throwers hands. If the ball doesn't go over the 15m you are offside though.

                                  That law hasn't changed since I first became a ref, some 22 years ago. If you think about it, that has to be the way, otherwise the player in the backline would never be up fast enough to catch the ball.

                                  I always thought there was something not quite right about you. Clear as day now. :beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                                  Those who can't play ... ref.

                                  On that basis there should be a lot more refs around!

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                                    https://twitter.com/CJStander/status/1371764641618087938

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                                      https://twitter.com/CJStander/status/1371764641618087938

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                                      @stargazer I did not see that coming, thought he'd be around until 2023

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                                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                                        https://twitter.com/CJStander/status/1371764641618087938

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                                        #1987

                                        @stargazer That is a lovely note from Stander. Good on him.

                                        Wonder if the prospect of playing for the Lions against SA was too much for him. He's clearly died in the wool Sith Ifrican who took a job playing for Ireland.

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                                          @stargazer That is a lovely note from Stander. Good on him.

                                          Wonder if the prospect of playing for the Lions against SA was too much for him. He's clearly died in the wool Sith Ifrican who took a job playing for Ireland.

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                                          @majorrage
                                          He says he's available for international duty until the end of the mid year test window... sounds like he's keen to go out after playing for the Lions

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