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    @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

    @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

    I guess they're following the new high tackle guidelines? In which case Brock will be on, then back off again after 4 mins with a red card.

    Also if I ever see Eddie (cheika, Lam), I'll kick him in the nads - finishers FFS

    Ummmmm....Brock James is renowned for high tackles now?

    I imagine Butch James used to play for Taranaki...

    Reminds me of when I got Naholo and Nadolo mixed up and you bailed me up on it.

    No one likes a corrector.

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    @MN5 said in NH International Rugby:

    @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

    @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

    I guess they're following the new high tackle guidelines? In which case Brock will be on, then back off again after 4 mins with a red card.

    Also if I ever see Eddie (cheika, Lam), I'll kick him in the nads - finishers FFS

    Ummmmm....Brock James is renowned for high tackles now?

    I imagine Butch James used to play for Taranaki...

    Reminds me of when I got Naholo and Nadolo mixed up and you bailed me up on it.

    No one likes a corrector.

    Yeah because they're two completely different people...good logic.

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      It looks like the England XV v Baabaas game will be broadcast live on Sky Sport 1 in NZ. It doesn't say so in the description (it just says "Rugby: England Home Internationals", but what else could it be?

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      • BonesB Bones

        @MN5 said in NH International Rugby:

        @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

        @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

        I guess they're following the new high tackle guidelines? In which case Brock will be on, then back off again after 4 mins with a red card.

        Also if I ever see Eddie (cheika, Lam), I'll kick him in the nads - finishers FFS

        Ummmmm....Brock James is renowned for high tackles now?

        I imagine Butch James used to play for Taranaki...

        Reminds me of when I got Naholo and Nadolo mixed up and you bailed me up on it.

        No one likes a corrector.

        Yeah because they're two completely different people...good logic.

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        @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

        @MN5 said in NH International Rugby:

        @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

        @Machpants said in NH International Rugby:

        I guess they're following the new high tackle guidelines? In which case Brock will be on, then back off again after 4 mins with a red card.

        Also if I ever see Eddie (cheika, Lam), I'll kick him in the nads - finishers FFS

        Ummmmm....Brock James is renowned for high tackles now?

        I imagine Butch James used to play for Taranaki...

        Reminds me of when I got Naholo and Nadolo mixed up and you bailed me up on it.

        No one likes a corrector.

        Yeah because they're two completely different people...good logic.

        I can't fault that I just hate it when you talk down to me.

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          Since June 2017, the French Barbarians were considered France's "the next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team" in terms of World Rugby Regulation 8 (Eligibility). Recently, the FFR decided that that's no longer the case and the French Baabaas are back to its former status of "exceptional" team (équipe d’exception).

          The FFR has created a new "next senior fifteen-a-side National Representative Team", the so-called "France 23".

          The decision has been taken because the FFR considers it necessary to create a team in-between the French U20 and the "‘XV de France Masculin’" to allow players with great potential to gain experience at the international level, which it considers indispensible for their development towards test rugby. This "project" will start next year, with the RWC of 2023 as its main objective.

          Media release of the French rugby federation (FFR):
          https://www.ffr.fr/actualites/barbarians-francais/barbarians-francais-une-equipe-dexception

          Link to the article in Le Figaro:
          http://sport24.lefigaro.fr/rugby/xv-de-france/actualites/la-ffr-annonce-la-creation-d-une-deuxieme-equipe-de-france-963728

          I haven't seen an article about this in English, yet.

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            Excellent analysis of England's game plan and the threat they pose:

            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-englands-rugby-world-cup-game-plan-explained/

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              Excellent analysis of England's game plan and the threat they pose:

              https://www.rugbypass.com/news/analysis-englands-rugby-world-cup-game-plan-explained/

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              @sparky is that with or without arms in the tackle?

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                So Mr Percentage has announced his squad to play Wales in the first RWC warm up game this weekend, with the actual RWC squad named the following week, with further warm up games to come. Not too many surprises in the weekend squad, although Eddie's continued inability to consider a viable back up to Ben Youngs at 9 is again apparent. No place for Cipriani (not a surprise but baffling to a degree) and only a part time back up at No8.

                Full weekend squad:-

                Forwards: Dan Cole (Leicester), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter), Tom Curry (Sale), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Ellis Genge (Leicester), Jamie George (Saracens), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton), Lewis Ludlam (Northampton), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Jack Singleton (Saracens), Sam Underhill (Bath), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter), Mark Wilson (Sale).

                Backs: Joe Cokanasiga (Bath), Elliot Daly (Saracens), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester), Piers Francis (Northampton), Willi Heinz (Gloucester), Jonathan Joseph (Bath), Joe Marchant (Harlequins), Jonny May (Leicester), Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath), Henry Slade (Exeter), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester), Anthony Watson (Bath), Ben Youngs (Leicester).

                Yes. Willi Heinz. That is not a typo.

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                  Who knows what will happen this weekend

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                    Who knows what will happen this weekend

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                    @MiketheSnow

                    Faletau is a big loss for you. Moriarty is a fine replacement but doesn't quite offer as much variety. Haven't seen your squad yet, but I'm sort of hoping Gatland leaves as many holes in his squad as Eddie is doing. Doubt it though.

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                      @MiketheSnow

                      Faletau is a big loss for you. Moriarty is a fine replacement but doesn't quite offer as much variety. Haven't seen your squad yet, but I'm sort of hoping Gatland leaves as many holes in his squad as Eddie is doing. Doubt it though.

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                      @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                      @MiketheSnow

                      Faletau is a big loss for you. Moriarty is a fine replacement but doesn't quite offer as much variety. Haven't seen your squad yet, but I'm sort of hoping Gatland leaves as many holes in his squad as Eddie is doing. Doubt it though.

                      Strongest, most balanced squad going in to a WC.

                      Lots can happen in the next 4 matches though.

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @MiketheSnow

                            Faletau is a big loss for you. Moriarty is a fine replacement but doesn't quite offer as much variety. Haven't seen your squad yet, but I'm sort of hoping Gatland leaves as many holes in his squad as Eddie is doing. Doubt it though.

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                            @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                            @MiketheSnow

                            Faletau is a big loss for you. Moriarty is a fine replacement but doesn't quite offer as much variety. Haven't seen your squad yet, but I'm sort of hoping Gatland leaves as many holes in his squad as Eddie is doing. Doubt it though.

                            Faletau of 2016/17 is a big loss World class player Starting #8 for Lions if healthy

                            Faletau of 2019 is no great loss Injury prone and not durable Body is breaking down

                            Moriaty is a much inferior player in comparison & would not start for Wales
                            if all other players were healthy and struggle to make their matchday squad

                            TBH Wales will really miss Ellis Jenkins- brilliant player who plays #6 #7 #8

                            I expect him to be next captain of Wales when AWJ likely retires from Int'l Rugby in 2021 post Lions tour to SA

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                            • CatograndeC Catogrande

                              So Mr Percentage has announced his squad to play Wales in the first RWC warm up game this weekend, with the actual RWC squad named the following week, with further warm up games to come. Not too many surprises in the weekend squad, although Eddie's continued inability to consider a viable back up to Ben Youngs at 9 is again apparent. No place for Cipriani (not a surprise but baffling to a degree) and only a part time back up at No8.

                              Full weekend squad:-

                              Forwards: Dan Cole (Leicester), Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter), Tom Curry (Sale), Charlie Ewels (Bath), Ellis Genge (Leicester), Jamie George (Saracens), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton), Lewis Ludlam (Northampton), Joe Marler (Harlequins), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Jack Singleton (Saracens), Sam Underhill (Bath), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter), Mark Wilson (Sale).

                              Backs: Joe Cokanasiga (Bath), Elliot Daly (Saracens), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester), Piers Francis (Northampton), Willi Heinz (Gloucester), Jonathan Joseph (Bath), Joe Marchant (Harlequins), Jonny May (Leicester), Ruaridh McConnochie (Bath), Henry Slade (Exeter), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester), Anthony Watson (Bath), Ben Youngs (Leicester).

                              Yes. Willi Heinz. That is not a typo.

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                              @Catogrande

                              The likes of Will Heinz "playing for England" is the reason why I don't support ENG despite having strong links to ENG

                              A 2nd rate Kiwi has no business playing for ENG

                              What do Kiwi members of TSF think of this fucking turncoat

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                                @Daffy-Jaffy

                                Italians taking the piss again with Mercenary players

                                Callum Braley born and bred in ENG

                                ENG U20 captain but has a Italian granddad so plays for Italy 🤡 🤡

                                This quote below is disgusting Int'l Rugby not a shopping centre where you
                                pick & choose what nation you want to to play and game the system

                                “As a kid I always dreamt of playing international rugby and I always knew that could be two avenues
                                so it’s one of them, whichever came first and gave me that opportunity and believed in me the most,”

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                                  @Catogrande

                                  The likes of Will Heinz "playing for England" is the reason why I don't support ENG despite having strong links to ENG

                                  A 2nd rate Kiwi has no business playing for ENG

                                  What do Kiwi members of TSF think of this fucking turncoat

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                                  @Jaguares4real There's no reason whatsoever to call him names! Personally, I don't think he's good enough for test rugby, but he is eligible under the grandparent rule, not the residency rule, so good on him if he gets selected and takes his opportunities.

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                                    @Catogrande

                                    The likes of Will Heinz "playing for England" is the reason why I don't support ENG despite having strong links to ENG

                                    A 2nd rate Kiwi has no business playing for ENG

                                    What do Kiwi members of TSF think of this fucking turncoat

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                                    @Jaguares4real said in NH International Rugby:

                                    @Catogrande

                                    The likes of Will Heinz "playing for England" is the reason why I don't support ENG despite having strong links to ENG

                                    A 2nd rate Kiwi has no business playing for ENG

                                    What do Kiwi members of TSF think of this fucking turncoat

                                    To be honest the "mercenary" aspect of International qualification has been done to death on here (and other sites) and we have a set of rules and mostly these are adhered to. Whether one likes the rules or not is another matter. I am not happy about the Grandparent rule as a for instance but I can see how this can benefit some of the smaller nations, the PIs in particular. It seems that every time a rule is changed to protect one part of the game it causes a problem elsewhere. What is the answer? Fucked if I know.

                                    However I am distinctly uncomfortable with England picking guys like Heinz, Shields and Waldrom. Sure it's within the rules but it just does not feel right to me.

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                                      @Jaguares4real There's no reason whatsoever to call him names! Personally, I don't think he's good enough for test rugby, but he is eligible under the grandparent rule, not the residency rule, so good on him if he gets selected and takes his opportunities.

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                                      @Stargazer

                                      I'm aware of Heinz using Granny Rule

                                      I'm being accurate in calling him a turncoat
                                      Nothing personal but calling it as I see it

                                      Heinz was not sniffing an ABs cap yet alone be good for play for Crusaders so he goes to ENG

                                      There's also a big financial aspect to this with appearance money & other bonuses attached to playing for ENG

                                      The likes of Heinz and Bralley IMO bring the game into Disrepute
                                      Cheating!!!!

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                                        And Heinz is due to start and earn his first cap.

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                                        • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                          And Heinz is due to start and earn his first cap.

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                                          @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                                          And Heinz is due to start and earn his first cap.

                                          https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/3195/pre-rwc-test-matches/87

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