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    @Crucial

    You have your experience

    I have mine

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    @Jaguares4real said in NH International Rugby:

    @Crucial

    You have your experience

    I have mine

    It’s nothing to do with personal experience. What the fuck are you on about?

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      Pretty sad.
      https://twitter.com/Gareth_Anscombe/status/1160966662939697152?s=09

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          Great country the little I've seen, great people.

          Would love to travel to Georgia for a 7-nations match and then go skiing.

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            Great country the little I've seen, great people.

            Would love to travel to Georgia for a 7-nations match and then go skiing.

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            @MiketheSnow we had them in my area during the 2011 RWC. So the Council and local businesses produced Georgia supporting t-shirts, all the kids were wearing them. We had parades and huge dinner nights etc. Great bunch, they were pretty shocked!

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              @Jaguares4real said in NH International Rugby:

              @Daffy-Jaffy

              Italians taking the piss again with Mercenary players

              Callum Braley born and bred in ENG

              ENG U20 captain but has a Italian granddad so plays for Italy 🤡 🤡

              This quote below is disgusting Int'l Rugby not a shopping centre where you
              pick & choose what nation you want to to play and game the system

              “As a kid I always dreamt of playing international rugby and I always knew that could be two avenues
              so it’s one of them, whichever came first and gave me that opportunity and believed in me the most,”

              Ummmmmm who the hell are you to say what someone thinks ?

              If god forbid I was anywhere near good enough to play international Rugby I could have gone for the country I love and have lived in most of my life ( New Zealand ) or where my old man was born and one which I'm fiercely proud of my heritage ( Scotland ).

              If you've got the family ties then fucken do it, I have nothing but respect for the Leslie brothers, Gordon Simpson, Brendan Laney and many others for what they gave to the blue jersey.

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              @MN5 said in NH International Rugby:

              @Jaguares4real said in NH International Rugby:

              @Daffy-Jaffy

              Italians taking the piss again with Mercenary players

              Callum Braley born and bred in ENG

              ENG U20 captain but has a Italian granddad so plays for Italy 🤡 🤡

              This quote below is disgusting Int'l Rugby not a shopping centre where you
              pick & choose what nation you want to to play and game the system

              “As a kid I always dreamt of playing international rugby and I always knew that could be two avenues
              so it’s one of them, whichever came first and gave me that opportunity and believed in me the most,”

              Ummmmmm who the hell are you to say what someone thinks ?

              If god forbid I was anywhere near good enough to play international Rugby I could have gone for the country I love and have lived in most of my life ( New Zealand ) or where my old man was born and one which I'm fiercely proud of my heritage ( Scotland ).

              If you've got the family ties then fucken do it, I have nothing but respect for the Leslie brothers, Gordon Simpson, Brendan Laney and many others for what they gave to the blue jersey.

              At the end of the day it is professional sport and you do what is best for your career, sure it is a bonus and privilege if you can do it for your country of birth. Look at other sports, football, cricket even

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                Good piece on the rise and rise and rise of the Welsh national side over the last 18 months:

                https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/49412515

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                  Nigel Owens to make history by being first referee to officiate in a match involving their own country

                  Wales v Barbarians at the Principality Stadium on 30 November 2019

                  Pivac v Gatland

                  https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/nigel-owens-referee-wales-first-16863536?fbclid=IwAR2W_N5UzOJIL22m8N3R3L2BpDlBjQGSTiQdcWg3XG5GhYgAcOjpjjo9RiU

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    Nigel Owens to make history by being first referee to officiate in a match involving their own country

                    Wales v Barbarians at the Principality Stadium on 30 November 2019

                    Pivac v Gatland

                    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/nigel-owens-referee-wales-first-16863536?fbclid=IwAR2W_N5UzOJIL22m8N3R3L2BpDlBjQGSTiQdcWg3XG5GhYgAcOjpjjo9RiU

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                    @MiketheSnow First time in the professional era maybe but certainly not the first time.

                    Personally I would be more than happy to see Owens ref a match between Wales and the AB's. Rather have a competent "home" ref than a mumpty neutral.

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                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                      @MiketheSnow First time in the professional era maybe but certainly not the first time.

                      Personally I would be more than happy to see Owens ref a match between Wales and the AB's. Rather have a competent "home" ref than a mumpty neutral.

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                      @dogmeat said in NH International Rugby:

                      @MiketheSnow First time in the professional era maybe but certainly not the first time.

                      Personally I would be more than happy to see Owens ref a match between Wales and the AB's. Rather have a competent "home" ref than a mumpty neutral.

                      Yes, of course

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                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                        @MiketheSnow First time in the professional era maybe but certainly not the first time.

                        Personally I would be more than happy to see Owens ref a match between Wales and the AB's. Rather have a competent "home" ref than a mumpty neutral.

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                        @dogmeat said in NH International Rugby:

                        Personally I would be more than happy to see Owens ref a match between Wales and the AB's. Rather have a competent "home" ref than a mumpty neutral.

                        Not for me in a test, especially at ref's home. Baabaas sure.
                        It just opens the ref up to criticism of home town bias (or even the opposite from home fans). I don't think that it is fair on the ref.

                        Nothing against Owens he's a good ref and I went and saw him speak (and sing a little) when he was in town awhile back. Interesting and entertaining guy.

                        The other nations should be able to produce a decent neutral ref rather than a mumpty, and remove any question of bias. There is enough advantage playing at home with crowd, TB producers, no travel. Leave the refs out of it.

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                        • SnowyS Snowy

                          @dogmeat said in NH International Rugby:

                          Personally I would be more than happy to see Owens ref a match between Wales and the AB's. Rather have a competent "home" ref than a mumpty neutral.

                          Not for me in a test, especially at ref's home. Baabaas sure.
                          It just opens the ref up to criticism of home town bias (or even the opposite from home fans). I don't think that it is fair on the ref.

                          Nothing against Owens he's a good ref and I went and saw him speak (and sing a little) when he was in town awhile back. Interesting and entertaining guy.

                          The other nations should be able to produce a decent neutral ref rather than a mumpty, and remove any question of bias. There is enough advantage playing at home with crowd, TB producers, no travel. Leave the refs out of it.

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                          @Snowy said in NH International Rugby:

                          Not for me in a test, especially at ref's home

                          So...Owens or Garces?

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                            @dogmeat said in NH International Rugby:

                            Personally I would be more than happy to see Owens ref a match between Wales and the AB's. Rather have a competent "home" ref than a mumpty neutral.

                            Not for me in a test, especially at ref's home. Baabaas sure.
                            It just opens the ref up to criticism of home town bias (or even the opposite from home fans). I don't think that it is fair on the ref.

                            Nothing against Owens he's a good ref and I went and saw him speak (and sing a little) when he was in town awhile back. Interesting and entertaining guy.

                            The other nations should be able to produce a decent neutral ref rather than a mumpty, and remove any question of bias. There is enough advantage playing at home with crowd, TB producers, no travel. Leave the refs out of it.

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                            @Snowy For sure. I don't think it would be fair on a ref to ask him to ref his home side. I was trying to keep my post pithy for once so didn't elaborate.

                            @taniwharugby Owens every time

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                              @dogmeat said in NH International Rugby:

                              Personally I would be more than happy to see Owens ref a match between Wales and the AB's. Rather have a competent "home" ref than a mumpty neutral.

                              Not for me in a test, especially at ref's home. Baabaas sure.
                              It just opens the ref up to criticism of home town bias (or even the opposite from home fans). I don't think that it is fair on the ref.

                              Nothing against Owens he's a good ref and I went and saw him speak (and sing a little) when he was in town awhile back. Interesting and entertaining guy.

                              The other nations should be able to produce a decent neutral ref rather than a mumpty, and remove any question of bias. There is enough advantage playing at home with crowd, TB producers, no travel. Leave the refs out of it.

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                              @Snowy in this day and age of pro refs I think home town bias is overstated. Endless replay, TMO and numerous camera angles means you can't get away with SA level cheating anymore

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                                @Snowy in this day and age of pro refs I think home town bias is overstated. Endless replay, TMO and numerous camera angles means you can't get away with SA level cheating anymore

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                                @canefan said in NH International Rugby:

                                @Snowy in this day and age I think home town bias is overstated. Endless replay, TMO and numerous camera angles means you can't get away with SA level cheating anymore

                                ah, yeah, right. Super Rugby season wasn't that long ago! Even this board lights right the fuck up when a hometown ref makes and "error"

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                                  @Snowy in this day and age of pro refs I think home town bias is overstated. Endless replay, TMO and numerous camera angles means you can't get away with SA level cheating anymore

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                                  @canefan said in NH International Rugby:

                                  @Snowy in this day and age of pro refs I think home town bias is overstated. Endless replay, TMO and numerous camera angles means you can't get away with SA level cheating anymore

                                  I never said that they were biased in the modern age and @mariner4life is correct in the post above. We have neutral refs in tests for a reason (that you mention).

                                  It doesn't change the fact that it gives media and fans the opportunity to criticise over contentious decisions - real or perceived - basically call them cheats when it was just an error. I am as bad as most people.

                                  I don't think that it is fair on the refs and therefore not a good idea.

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                                    @Snowy said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Not for me in a test, especially at ref's home

                                    So...Owens or Garces?

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                                    @taniwharugby said in NH International Rugby:

                                    @Snowy said in NH International Rugby:

                                    Not for me in a test, especially at ref's home

                                    So...Owens or Garces?

                                    Why didn't you just mention "super city" rates as well as Garces and the cricket world cup rules and, and, and,...You would see the mushroom cloud from Whangarei.

                                    I am now going to go and break things anyway.

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                                      @Snowy in this day and age of pro refs I think home town bias is overstated. Endless replay, TMO and numerous camera angles means you can't get away with SA level cheating anymore

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                                      @canefan The South African refs are clearly biased.

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                                        France appoint Shaun Edwards as defence coach

                                        The French Rugby Federation have announced that Shaun Edwards will join France head coach Fabien Galthie’s backroom staff as the new defence coach.
                                        
                                        Edwards stepped down from his position as Wales defence coach at the end of the recent Rugby World Cup in Japan after occupying that role for 11 years.
                                        
                                        Edwards will now work with Galthie, who has taken over Les Bleus’ coaching reins from Jacques Brunel, who stepped down after France suffered a 20-19 defeat to Wales in their World Cup quarter-final.
                                        
                                        Galthie was already confirmed as Brunel’s long-term replacement in April.
                                        
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                                          France appoint Shaun Edwards as defence coach

                                          The French Rugby Federation have announced that Shaun Edwards will join France head coach Fabien Galthie’s backroom staff as the new defence coach.
                                          
                                          Edwards stepped down from his position as Wales defence coach at the end of the recent Rugby World Cup in Japan after occupying that role for 11 years.
                                          
                                          Edwards will now work with Galthie, who has taken over Les Bleus’ coaching reins from Jacques Brunel, who stepped down after France suffered a 20-19 defeat to Wales in their World Cup quarter-final.
                                          
                                          Galthie was already confirmed as Brunel’s long-term replacement in April.
                                          
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                                          @Stargazer If Edwards can beat the head coach with a stick evey time he tries to completely vary the 23, Frnce could do well going forward

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