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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    He's hardly my favourite player, but I do sympathise with him on this. His tackling might be an issue, but he's been made a victim of Rugby's utterly broken refereeing and disciplinary systems. text here

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/11/29/owen-farrell-mental-health-breaking-point-england/

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in NH International Rugby:

    He's hardly my favourite player, but I do sympathise with him on this. His tackling might be an issue, but he's been made a victim of Rugby's utterly broken refereeing and disciplinary systems. text here

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/11/29/owen-farrell-mental-health-breaking-point-england/

    No sympathy whatsoever

    Serial driller

    You reap, you sow

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      @Victor-Meldrew said in NH International Rugby:

      He's hardly my favourite player, but I do sympathise with him on this. His tackling might be an issue, but he's been made a victim of Rugby's utterly broken refereeing and disciplinary systems. text here

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/11/29/owen-farrell-mental-health-breaking-point-england/

      No sympathy whatsoever

      Serial driller

      You reap, you sow

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      @MiketheSnow yeah fuck that eh, he got away with bullshit for years. Cry me a river.

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        fair play to him, he's pretty driven and everyone who's ever played with him rates him as a player and a leader - Lions is a good example - that's a good enough yardstick for me. Don't really care whether other fans think he's a dick, he's our dick. Shame he feels the need to take a break but hope he enjoys his season for Sarries and hope it gives Borthwick the chance to try and play some rugby.

        Not sure Smith deserves the shirt at the moment, his game and his kicking definitely falling off after the world cup at club level. Probably leaves us with George Ford or Finn Smith who i haven't seen enough of to have a strong opinion. We have quite a few players either retiring or injured which could make for a painful 6N if the Irish, French and Scots are smarting after earlier than planned exits.

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          @Victor-Meldrew said in NH International Rugby:

          He's hardly my favourite player, but I do sympathise with him on this. His tackling might be an issue, but he's been made a victim of Rugby's utterly broken refereeing and disciplinary systems. text here

          https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2023/11/29/owen-farrell-mental-health-breaking-point-england/

          No sympathy whatsoever

          Serial driller

          You reap, you sow

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          Victor Meldrew
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          @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

          You reap, you sow

          You reap criticism, not online threats and your wife and kids being abused on social media. Big difference.

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          • DodgeD Dodge

            fair play to him, he's pretty driven and everyone who's ever played with him rates him as a player and a leader - Lions is a good example - that's a good enough yardstick for me. Don't really care whether other fans think he's a dick, he's our dick. Shame he feels the need to take a break but hope he enjoys his season for Sarries and hope it gives Borthwick the chance to try and play some rugby.

            Not sure Smith deserves the shirt at the moment, his game and his kicking definitely falling off after the world cup at club level. Probably leaves us with George Ford or Finn Smith who i haven't seen enough of to have a strong opinion. We have quite a few players either retiring or injured which could make for a painful 6N if the Irish, French and Scots are smarting after earlier than planned exits.

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            @Dodge

            Always felt Farrell doesn't quite fit position-wise. Was he a 10 or a 12?

            As you say the 6N's will be interesting as Borthwick will have some opportunities to try new(er) players

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            • TimT Away
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              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/301032219/excrusaders-assistant-coach-andrew-goodman-to-become-ireland-backs-coach

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                Midi Olympique are reporting that Owen Farrell has signed a 2 year deal with Racing 92 from the summer. Farrell has already made himself unavailable for the 6 Nations and the summer tour.

                So England will need to find a new captain. George Ford should be their main 10.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  Midi Olympique are reporting that Owen Farrell has signed a 2 year deal with Racing 92 from the summer. Farrell has already made himself unavailable for the 6 Nations and the summer tour.

                  So England will need to find a new captain. George Ford should be their main 10.

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                  @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

                  Midi Olympique are reporting that Owen Farrell has signed a 2 year deal with Racing 92 from the summer. Farrell has already made himself unavailable for the 6 Nations and the summer tour.

                  So England will need to find a new captain. George Ford should be their main 10.

                  Racing 92 have come out and said there's no deal, but certainly leaves the doors open for still under negotiation

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                  • M Machpants

                    @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

                    Midi Olympique are reporting that Owen Farrell has signed a 2 year deal with Racing 92 from the summer. Farrell has already made himself unavailable for the 6 Nations and the summer tour.

                    So England will need to find a new captain. George Ford should be their main 10.

                    Racing 92 have come out and said there's no deal, but certainly leaves the doors open for still under negotiation

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                    #2943

                    @Machpants Lots of other newspapers are reporting that Owen Farrell is in advanced talks with Racing 92. Midi Olympique jumped the gun by saying that he had already signed with the French club.

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                      Ex-England coach Stuart Lancaster is Coach of Racing 92 so it makes a lot of sense, Owen Farrell going there.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        @Machpants Lots of other newspapers are reporting that Owen Farrell is in advanced talks with Racing 92. Midi Olympique jumped the gun by saying that he had already signed with the French club.

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                        @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

                        @Machpants Lots of other newspapers are reporting that Owen Farrell is in advanced talks with Racing 92. Midi Olympique jumped the gun by saying that he had already signed with the French club.

                        Yup that was my point, they very specifically said there was no deal. Doesn't mean that they're just about to sign him

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                          Apparently ladies lions is getting close to a go, for to NZ first. Problem is it will basically be England. Maybe it should morph into NH v SH, Ozzie and SA would get smashed unless there is big improvements, possible I guess.

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                            I see the NZ press has picked up on a couple of Telegraph articles about Ethan Roots

                            Apparently he's a decent chance of making the England 6N squad?

                            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/01/14/ethan-roots-could-rebalance-england-pack-six-nations/

                            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/01/12/ethan-roots-interview-exter-chiefs-england-cage-fighting/

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                              Free access version

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/133558291/the-kiwi-former-cage-fighter-and-jiujitsu-champ-in-mix-for-first-england-rugby-cap

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                I see the NZ press has picked up on a couple of Telegraph articles about Ethan Roots

                                Apparently he's a decent chance of making the England 6N squad?

                                https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/01/14/ethan-roots-could-rebalance-england-pack-six-nations/

                                https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/01/12/ethan-roots-interview-exter-chiefs-england-cage-fighting/

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                                @Duluth

                                I’m not sure how he went at the Ospreys but he’s been good for Exeter, one of those back rows that is just a complete nuisance all over the park. 6 though is a position of strength for England, so there’d be a few ahead of him in the queue.

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                                  https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67995451

                                  Hope he goes to the Dallas Cowboys

                                  Then Max Boyce can do another show

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                                    Fuck me, he's a bit small for that, isn't he? I know zilch about it, but they all look like monsters

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                                    • M Machpants

                                      Fuck me, he's a bit small for that, isn't he? I know zilch about it, but they all look like monsters

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                                      @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

                                      Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

                                        Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

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                                        @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                        @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

                                        Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

                                        Cool, as I said I know fuck all apart from buys in helmets smashing together. He's joining the NFL training pipeline/programme, so position TBC I guess

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                          @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

                                          Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

                                          Cool, as I said I know fuck all apart from buys in helmets smashing together. He's joining the NFL training pipeline/programme, so position TBC I guess

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                                          @Machpants it's a much more open game than it was even 10 years ago and definitely 20 years ago.

                                          The rules benefit space and speed on offense so the game is far more tailored to that (and subsequently the players on defence that can defend that).

                                          The best wide receiver in the league is 178cm tall and 87kg.

                                          The best rookie wide receiver has similar frame to LRZ (188cm, 93Kg).

                                          A lot of lessons rugby can take from that - which has gone the opposite way.

                                          Having said that - it's going to be awfully tough for LRZ - they have designated international roster spots so he can hang around but making a team's official 53 man squad and then staying there for any length of time is an enormous ask. Good luck to him.

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