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  • DuluthD Duluth

    I see the NZ press has picked up on a couple of Telegraph articles about Ethan Roots

    Apparently he's a decent chance of making the England 6N squad?

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/01/14/ethan-roots-could-rebalance-england-pack-six-nations/

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2024/01/12/ethan-roots-interview-exter-chiefs-england-cage-fighting/

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    @Duluth

    I’m not sure how he went at the Ospreys but he’s been good for Exeter, one of those back rows that is just a complete nuisance all over the park. 6 though is a position of strength for England, so there’d be a few ahead of him in the queue.

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      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/67995451

      Hope he goes to the Dallas Cowboys

      Then Max Boyce can do another show

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        Fuck me, he's a bit small for that, isn't he? I know zilch about it, but they all look like monsters

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          Fuck me, he's a bit small for that, isn't he? I know zilch about it, but they all look like monsters

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          @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

          Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

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            @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

            Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

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            @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

            @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

            Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

            Cool, as I said I know fuck all apart from buys in helmets smashing together. He's joining the NFL training pipeline/programme, so position TBC I guess

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              @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

              @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

              Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

              Cool, as I said I know fuck all apart from buys in helmets smashing together. He's joining the NFL training pipeline/programme, so position TBC I guess

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              @Machpants it's a much more open game than it was even 10 years ago and definitely 20 years ago.

              The rules benefit space and speed on offense so the game is far more tailored to that (and subsequently the players on defence that can defend that).

              The best wide receiver in the league is 178cm tall and 87kg.

              The best rookie wide receiver has similar frame to LRZ (188cm, 93Kg).

              A lot of lessons rugby can take from that - which has gone the opposite way.

              Having said that - it's going to be awfully tough for LRZ - they have designated international roster spots so he can hang around but making a team's official 53 man squad and then staying there for any length of time is an enormous ask. Good luck to him.

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                @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                @Machpants depends on what position, I was assuming wide receiver or similar but does the article state otherwise?

                Apparently this guy is one of the best the last couple of years. I'd say LRZ is probably bigger than him.

                Cool, as I said I know fuck all apart from buys in helmets smashing together. He's joining the NFL training pipeline/programme, so position TBC I guess

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                @Machpants sorry I forgot to add the link to the guy I mentioned 😂

                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Jefferson

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                  those guys may be the same size, but they have explosive acceleration and high top end speed. They are fucking quick and they get there real fucking fast. And they have other things like big hands and huge verticles.
                  And route running is a skill developed over a period of time.

                  Good luck to him, i always want guys from teh rugby codes to make it. But the odds are stacked against him.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    those guys may be the same size, but they have explosive acceleration and high top end speed. They are fucking quick and they get there real fucking fast. And they have other things like big hands and huge verticles.
                    And route running is a skill developed over a period of time.

                    Good luck to him, i always want guys from teh rugby codes to make it. But the odds are stacked against him.

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                    @mariner4life Third largest population on Earth with highest (by some margin) reward for being the best. Their sprinters are technically superb too - one only has to look at the times they set in combine for the 40 yard.

                    Once on a trip to America while in the Army we had a "sports day". 4 x ~200m race and we're winning by miles into the last league. Their anchor just missed Olympic selection so joined the Army. I swear it looked like he was 50m behind at the start of his run and won by 30m.

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                      High level rugby players are some of the best all-round athletes on the planet. They carry bulk, need power and strength, have endurance, and are quick.

                      NFL athletes are in their position because they are physically perfect for that one specific aspect of the game. Jack of all trades athletes have no place in that alpha sport.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        High level rugby players are some of the best all-round athletes on the planet. They carry bulk, need power and strength, have endurance, and are quick.

                        NFL athletes are in their position because they are physically perfect for that one specific aspect of the game. Jack of all trades athletes have no place in that alpha sport.

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                        @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                        High level rugby players are some of the best all-round athletes on the planet. They carry bulk, need power and strength, have endurance, and are quick.

                        NFL athletes are in their position because they are physically perfect for that one specific aspect of the game. Jack of all trades athletes have no place in that alpha sport.

                        Agree totally. The other thing against him is that top level NFL they really focus on certain things and as soon as you don't deliver, you're 100% off everybody's radar.

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                          I think there’s a far bigger play here

                          LRZ tries to make the NFL

                          Gets on to a team like Wade did, a few highlights in pre-season matches but ultimately fails - gallantly- in his endeavour.

                          Signs for Major League Rugby as one of the few overseas players in the league in their prime.

                          Becomes poster boy for the league with huge US recognition.

                          Has a stormer of a season or two and shows he’s not bad after all.

                          Qualifies on residency to represent the US and becomes the poster boy for the 2031 RWC in the US of A

                          All the while being filmed by Netflix

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                            I'm sure you're being facetious but regardless, LRZ can't qualify for the USA through residency because he's already played for Wales. You can only switch countries through birth place or ancestry.

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                              I'm sure you're being facetious but regardless, LRZ can't qualify for the USA through residency because he's already played for Wales. You can only switch countries through birth place or ancestry.

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                              @Mr-Fish said in NH International Rugby:

                              I'm sure you're being facetious but regardless, LRZ can't qualify for the USA through residency because he's already played for Wales. You can only switch countries through birth place or ancestry.

                              Wasn't being facetious.

                              Didn't realise / understand the qualifications process. Shame.

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                                High level rugby players are some of the best all-round athletes on the planet. They carry bulk, need power and strength, have endurance, and are quick.

                                NFL athletes are in their position because they are physically perfect for that one specific aspect of the game. Jack of all trades athletes have no place in that alpha sport.

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                                @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                High level rugby players are some of the best all-round athletes on the planet. They carry bulk, need power and strength, have endurance, and are quick.

                                Yep. I posted some 40m sprint times for rugby players I found a few years ago - Sione Anesi, Beaden, Jonah, etc - to Mrs M's son who's a serious athlete and knows his stuff.

                                He was blown away at how quick they were over that distance - Anesi in particular.

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                                  @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                  High level rugby players are some of the best all-round athletes on the planet. They carry bulk, need power and strength, have endurance, and are quick.

                                  Yep. I posted some 40m sprint times for rugby players I found a few years ago - Sione Anesi, Beaden, Jonah, etc - to Mrs M's son who's a serious athlete and knows his stuff.

                                  He was blown away at how quick they were over that distance - Anesi in particular.

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                                  @Victor-Meldrew Weeks ago on zoom call attended by the Wales National Team...

                                  Gatland: "Many of you have asked me what my big plan is for this year's Six Nations. One word: WARRENBALL."

                                  LRZ: logs off

                                  Garland"That's strange. LRZ just went dark. Must be a technical problem. Anyway, back to Warren all..."

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                                    For those clamoring for Georgia's inclusion in the 6N

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                                      Belgium beat Portugal

                                      https://www.facebook.com/watch/?ref=saved&v=2315111005366862

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                                        Former Highlander Josh Iosefa-Scott named in England A squad -

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                                          Melville represent!

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