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  • CatograndeC Catogrande

    @Mr-Fish said in NH International Rugby:

    Spain are about a decade away from entry to the Six Nations.

    Not if they keep playing ineligible players they’re not.

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    @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

    @Mr-Fish said in NH International Rugby:

    Spain are about a decade away from entry to the Six Nations.

    Not if they keep playing ineligible players they’re not.

    Under the new rules, the player who was ineligible ahead of the last World Cup would now be fine, funnily enough.

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      @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

      @Mr-Fish said in NH International Rugby:

      Spain are about a decade away from entry to the Six Nations.

      Not if they keep playing ineligible players they’re not.

      Under the new rules, the player who was ineligible ahead of the last World Cup would now be fine, funnily enough.

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      @Mr-Fish

      Yeah bizarre really. Nonetheless, they have history of flouting the rules, was my point.

      In truth I’m pretty stoked to see some of the lower rated European sides’ improvement. It is probably going to cause a headache going forward. How to give them more opportunity but retain what keeps the 6N what it is?

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        @Mr-Fish

        Yeah bizarre really. Nonetheless, they have history of flouting the rules, was my point.

        In truth I’m pretty stoked to see some of the lower rated European sides’ improvement. It is probably going to cause a headache going forward. How to give them more opportunity but retain what keeps the 6N what it is?

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        @Catogrande I suspect that the Six Nations will open their arms to Spain, Germany and possibly even Portugal if they ever get themselves up to around Italy's level.

        What that competition might look like is anyone's guess...

        Maybe a home nations group and a continental Europe group, with the two groups taking turns hosting semis and finals year on year.

        But realistically it will be seven nations including Spain in the soonest possible future, and they'd just stick to the same format with an extra two weeks of games (with, for example, the Premiership still running in the week where England have a bye).

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          @Catogrande I suspect that the Six Nations will open their arms to Spain, Germany and possibly even Portugal if they ever get themselves up to around Italy's level.

          What that competition might look like is anyone's guess...

          Maybe a home nations group and a continental Europe group, with the two groups taking turns hosting semis and finals year on year.

          But realistically it will be seven nations including Spain in the soonest possible future, and they'd just stick to the same format with an extra two weeks of games (with, for example, the Premiership still running in the week where England have a bye).

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          @Mr-Fish

          It depends I think upon whether the aim is more rugby, better rugby or popular rugby. In the end it will be money that talks but expect a lot of resistance to change from the current 6N countries along the way. You don't lightly throw away 100+ years of tradition.

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            I can imagine heading to away games in Munich, Barcelona, Lisbon would be slightly more attractive than Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin.

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              I've long argued that there should be two Six Nations tournaments with a promotion and relegation playoff game at the end between bottom team of the top division and the top team of the lower division.

              The interest in the playoff game would be massive.

              More importantly, Georgia, Portugal, Spain, Georgia, Romania and Germany all deserve a Fair Go!

              It will happen. But I suspect the warm beer and sandwiches brigade will be able to stop this happening for another two or three decades.

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              • CatograndeC Catogrande

                @Mr-Fish

                It depends I think upon whether the aim is more rugby, better rugby or popular rugby. In the end it will be money that talks but expect a lot of resistance to change from the current 6N countries along the way. You don't lightly throw away 100+ years of tradition.

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                @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                @Mr-Fish

                It depends I think upon whether the aim is more rugby, better rugby or popular rugby. In the end it will be key that talks but expect a lot of resistance to change from the current 6N countries along the way. You don't lightly throw away 100+ years of tradition.

                They did exactly that for France and Italy.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  I've long argued that there should be two Six Nations tournaments with a promotion and relegation playoff game at the end between bottom team of the top division and the top team of the lower division.

                  The interest in the playoff game would be massive.

                  More importantly, Georgia, Portugal, Spain, Georgia, Romania and Germany all deserve a Fair Go!

                  It will happen. But I suspect the warm beer and sandwiches brigade will be able to stop this happening for another two or three decades.

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                  @sparky said in NH International Rugby:

                  More importantly, Georgia, Portugal, Spain, Georgia, Romania and Germany all deserve a Fair Go!

                  Sounds like Georgia are getting a fairer go than others, which makes it not fair.

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                  • M Mr Fish

                    Spain are about a decade away from entry to the Six Nations.

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                    @Mr-Fish said in NH International Rugby:

                    Spain are about a decade away from entry to the Six Nations.

                    Like Georgia? 😉

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @Mr-Fish said in NH International Rugby:

                      Spain are about a decade away from entry to the Six Nations.

                      Like Georgia? 😉

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                      @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                      @Mr-Fish said in NH International Rugby:

                      Spain are about a decade away from entry to the Six Nations.

                      Like Georgia? 😉

                      It's unlikely Georgia will ever get admitted.

                      They don't have the economy or accessibility of Spain etc, and their whole rugby ecosphere could collapse if their billionaire investor pulls out so it's a slightly risky proposition.

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                      • M Mr Fish

                        @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                        @Mr-Fish

                        It depends I think upon whether the aim is more rugby, better rugby or popular rugby. In the end it will be key that talks but expect a lot of resistance to change from the current 6N countries along the way. You don't lightly throw away 100+ years of tradition.

                        They did exactly that for France and Italy.

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                        @Mr-Fish said in NH International Rugby:

                        @Catogrande said in NH International Rugby:

                        @Mr-Fish

                        It depends I think upon whether the aim is more rugby, better rugby or popular rugby. In the end it will be key that talks but expect a lot of resistance to change from the current 6N countries along the way. You don't lightly throw away 100+ years of tradition.

                        They did exactly that for France and Italy.

                        That's probably the wrong word. A) Because France came in after 27 years (minus WW1) and B) Because the basis of the tournament hasn't changed. The original countries remained and there was no prospect of relegation. You start adding more teams without relegation, it then becomes unwieldy.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            I can imagine heading to away games in Munich, Barcelona, Lisbon would be slightly more attractive than Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin.

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                            @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                            I can imagine heading to away games in Munich, Barcelona, Lisbon would be slightly more attractive than Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin.

                            Why?

                            If you want a cheap city break then I hear Easy Jet may be able to help

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              I can imagine heading to away games in Munich, Barcelona, Lisbon would be slightly more attractive than Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin.

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                              @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                              I can imagine heading to away games in Munich, Barcelona, Lisbon would be slightly more attractive than Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin.

                              We may be very shit at the moment, with all comers wanting to have a go at putting the boot in, but one thing you can say about Cardiff is when there’s a match you fucking know there’s a match on

                              Can that be said for many places around the world?

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                              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                I can imagine heading to away games in Munich, Barcelona, Lisbon would be slightly more attractive than Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin.

                                We may be very shit at the moment, with all comers wanting to have a go at putting the boot in, but one thing you can say about Cardiff is when there’s a match you fucking know there’s a match on

                                Can that be said for many places around the world?

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                                @MiketheSnow just my imagination fella, don't take it personally.

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy said in NH International Rugby:

                                  Great win for the Yanks

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @MiketheSnow just my imagination fella, don't take it personally.

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                                    @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                    @MiketheSnow just my imagination fella, don't take it personally.

                                    I’m not

                                    I’m a realist

                                    And let’s not forget that despite an exciting RWC campaign, Scotland B just murdered Portugal

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                                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                      @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                      @MiketheSnow just my imagination fella, don't take it personally.

                                      I’m not

                                      I’m a realist

                                      And let’s not forget that despite an exciting RWC campaign, Scotland B just murdered Portugal

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                                      @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                      @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                      @MiketheSnow just my imagination fella, don't take it personally.

                                      I’m not

                                      I’m a realist

                                      And let’s not forget that despite an exciting RWC campaign, Scotland B just murdered Portugal

                                      Oh well in my imagination I'd rather go to the places in mainland Europe, I just don't think I'd be alone in that thinking.

                                      When I was younger, definitely not.

                                      Rome was awesome when I went to watch the ABs and I reckon the others would do just as good a job.

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                                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                        @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                        I can imagine heading to away games in Munich, Barcelona, Lisbon would be slightly more attractive than Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin.

                                        We may be very shit at the moment, with all comers wanting to have a go at putting the boot in, but one thing you can say about Cardiff is when there’s a match you fucking know there’s a match on

                                        Can that be said for many places around the world?

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                                        @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                        @Bones said in NH International Rugby:

                                        I can imagine heading to away games in Munich, Barcelona, Lisbon would be slightly more attractive than Cardiff, Edinburgh, Dublin.

                                        We may be very shit at the moment, with all comers wanting to have a go at putting the boot in, but one thing you can say about Cardiff is when there’s a match you fucking know there’s a match on.

                                        Can that be said for many places around the world?

                                        Understatement!

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                                          https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1296326851789085

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