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  • boobooB booboo

    Who is David Watkins?

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    @booboo said in NH International Rugby:

    Who is David Watkins?

    Number 10 for the 1966 B&I Lions.

    Best known in NZ as the little guy Pinetree ran around to score his legendary try. On 44 seconds below:

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      Eddie Jones is set to sign a new England contract:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52129858

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        Sheesh, young fella.

        http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/52958152

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          https://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/1277731181878890497

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            https://twitter.com/FreemanrugbyJPN/status/1277731181878890497

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            @Stargazer Couldn’t see anything on the RFU website

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              @Stargazer Couldn’t see anything on the RFU website

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              @Catogrande It seems to come from this article, but it's behind a paywayll, so I can't read it.

              https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2020/06/29/england-play-eight-team-tournament-end-year-global-calendar/

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                It's a rumour that had been going around for a few weeks

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                  https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/joe-marler-breaks-silence-grabbing-18511659?

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                    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/jul/02/rugby-union-nations-may-decide-to-take-pay-tvs-money-and-run

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                      From a NH coach so posting here

                      Would be hard to beat

                      McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                      JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                      https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

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                      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                        From a NH coach so posting here

                        Would be hard to beat

                        McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                        JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                        https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

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                        @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                        From a NH coach so posting here

                        Would be hard to beat

                        McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                        JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                        https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

                        Too young to remember JPR Williams. He must have been some player if he was a better Fullback than Serge Blanco or Christian Cullen.

                        I'd pick Maa Nonu and Danie Gerber ahead of his midfield.

                        Buck Shelford ahead of Zinzan Brooke. Jerome Kaino above Richard Hill. Os Du Randt ahead of Tom Smith.

                        The rest about right.

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                          RFU has a £100 million blackhole and is about to fire 25% of its staff:

                          https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/53300919

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            From a NH coach so posting here

                            Would be hard to beat

                            McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                            JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                            https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

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                            @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                            From a NH coach so posting here

                            Would be hard to beat

                            McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                            JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                            https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

                            That's one of the better ones I've seen to be fair

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                            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                              @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                              From a NH coach so posting here

                              Would be hard to beat

                              McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                              JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                              https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

                              That's one of the better ones I've seen to be fair

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                              @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                              @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                              From a NH coach so posting here

                              Would be hard to beat

                              McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                              JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                              https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

                              That's one of the better ones I've seen to be fair

                              Same.

                              Weird one is Leonard, though. Not even in his strongest position, majority of career as loosehead.
                              Hill is a bit of a homer to for the target audience of the paper. But he was good. If you asked 50 former greats to pick an all time 15 probably all 50 would pick a different guy at 6, its that kind of position.

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                                Hill was a weapon. He's in that top bracket I reckon.

                                Leonard played test rugby for a long time and won a world cup, he doesn't look out of place.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  Hill was a weapon. He's in that top bracket I reckon.

                                  Leonard played test rugby for a long time and won a world cup, he doesn't look out of place.

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                                  @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                  Hill was a weapon. He's in that top bracket I reckon.

                                  Leonard played test rugby for a long time and won a world cup, he doesn't look out of place.

                                  Yeah. But Leonard was categorically never the best THP in the world, at any stage, even in his own era. IMO.
                                  For a few years in the mid 90s you could put a case for him being best LHP.

                                  He sticks out like dogs balls to me in an otherwise good team.

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                                  • sparkyS sparky

                                    @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                    From a NH coach so posting here

                                    Would be hard to beat

                                    McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                                    JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                                    https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

                                    Too young to remember JPR Williams. He must have been some player if he was a better Fullback than Serge Blanco or Christian Cullen.

                                    I'd pick Maa Nonu and Danie Gerber ahead of his midfield.

                                    Buck Shelford ahead of Zinzan Brooke. Jerome Kaino above Richard Hill. Os Du Randt ahead of Tom Smith.

                                    The rest about right.

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                                    @sparky Danie Gerber is a very good call. He put the fear of God into us in 1981! 🙂

                                    It's a good team, but it's got a bit of a look of making sure there's at least one player from each of the Home Unions - and that's helped squeeze out all of the Saffas.

                                    Here is Gerber cutting up the Irish at 38 seconds.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @sparky Danie Gerber is a very good call. He put the fear of God into us in 1981! 🙂

                                      It's a good team, but it's got a bit of a look of making sure there's at least one player from each of the Home Unions - and that's helped squeeze out all of the Saffas.

                                      Here is Gerber cutting up the Irish at 38 seconds.

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                                      @Chris-B said in NH International Rugby:

                                      @sparky Danie Gerber is a very good call. He put the fear of God into us in 1981! 🙂

                                      It's a good team, but it's got a bit of a look of making sure there's at least one player from each of the Home Unions - and that's helped squeeze out all of the Saffas.

                                      Here is Gerber cutting up the Irish at 38 seconds.

                                      There's an Irish player applauding him it was that good. Very few players could maintain that sort of balance and pace while weaving. Cullen and JK obviously, with Lomu absurd for a big man.

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                                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                        @sparky Danie Gerber is a very good call. He put the fear of God into us in 1981! 🙂

                                        It's a good team, but it's got a bit of a look of making sure there's at least one player from each of the Home Unions - and that's helped squeeze out all of the Saffas.

                                        Here is Gerber cutting up the Irish at 38 seconds.

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                                        @Chris-B reminded me of Sella...

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                                        • RapidoR Rapido

                                          @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                          From a NH coach so posting here

                                          Would be hard to beat

                                          McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                                          JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                                          https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

                                          That's one of the better ones I've seen to be fair

                                          Same.

                                          Weird one is Leonard, though. Not even in his strongest position, majority of career as loosehead.
                                          Hill is a bit of a homer to for the target audience of the paper. But he was good. If you asked 50 former greats to pick an all time 15 probably all 50 would pick a different guy at 6, its that kind of position.

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                                          @Rapido said in NH International Rugby:

                                          @mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:

                                          From a NH coach so posting here

                                          Would be hard to beat

                                          McGeechan's greatest rugby XV:
                                          JPR Williams ( Wales ); John Kirwan ( New Zealand ) Brian O’Driscoll ( Ireland ), Phlippe Sella ( France ), Jonah Lomu ( New Zealand ); Dan Carter ( New Zealand ), Gareth Edwards ( Wales ); Tom Smith ( Scotland ), Sean Fitzpatrick ( New Zealand ), Jason Leonard ( England ); Martin Johnson ( England ), John Eales ( Australia ); Richard Hill ( England ), RIchie McCaw ( New Zealand ), Zinzan Brooke ( New Zealand )

                                          https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/sir-ian-mcgeechans-ultimate-rugby-18531242?fbclid=IwAR1gWCoUryKEyXNEXAGWY2R-9yec6s2T4l20BC69WLKoeydqB8f6Tij2E3g

                                          That's one of the better ones I've seen to be fair

                                          Same.

                                          Weird one is Leonard, though. Not even in his strongest position, majority of career as loosehead.
                                          Hill is a bit of a homer to for the target audience of the paper. But he was good. If you asked 50 former greats to pick an all time 15 probably all 50 would pick a different guy at 6, its that kind of position.

                                          At least 50% of the NH would likely pick Richard Hill at 6. He's revered around these parts as one of the greatest ever.

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