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@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky I think you’ll find their fan base is pretty sick of the site of us and IMO many NZ fans are bored as shit with the Springboks. I am one of them.
The RC has become stagnant. Adding the Argies was good but it’s not the spectacle it once was.
Really?
That's interesting. I'm not sick of it. Boks twice a year is fine and they are one of the few teams that really challenge us and always have historically.
If it is stagnant, what would you change? The 5 nations still seems to captivate fans (deliberately left out the 6th one, like the Force, they add nothing).
@Snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky I think you’ll find their fan base is pretty sick of the site of us and IMO many NZ fans are bored as shit with the Springboks. I am one of them.
The RC has become stagnant. Adding the Argies was good but it’s not the spectacle it once was.
Really?
That's interesting. I'm not sick of it. Boks twice a year is fine and they are one of the few teams that really challenge us and always have historically.
If it is stagnant, what would you change? The 5 nations still seems to captivate fans (deliberately left out the 6th one, like the Force, they add nothing).
Hey come on now, Italy have done a lot for Scottish Rugby in that competition.
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@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky I think you’ll find their fan base is pretty sick of the site of us and IMO many NZ fans are bored as shit with the Springboks. I am one of them.
The RC has become stagnant. Adding the Argies was good but it’s not the spectacle it once was.
Really?
That's interesting. I'm not sick of it. Boks twice a year is fine and they are one of the few teams that really challenge us and always have historically.
If it is stagnant, what would you change? The 5 nations still seems to captivate fans (deliberately left out the 6th one, like the Force, they add nothing).
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@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky I think you’ll find their fan base is pretty sick of the site of us and IMO many NZ fans are bored as shit with the Springboks. I am one of them.
The RC has become stagnant. Adding the Argies was good but it’s not the spectacle it once was.
Really?
That's interesting. I'm not sick of it. Boks twice a year is fine and they are one of the few teams that really challenge us and always have historically.
If it is stagnant, what would you change? The 5 nations still seems to captivate fans (deliberately left out the 6th one, like the Force, they add nothing).
@Snowy said in NH International Rugby:
The 5 nations still seems to captivate fans
a number of reasons for that. It's nearly the perfect sporting competition
Geography. Not only same timezones, but very close to each other. It's easy for away fans to head to the host city and get amongst it.
History: Been going for ever. The countries have been rivals for hundreds of years before that.
Less is more: Play each other once a year. And at your house every 2. And every game means something. You drop a game and you might be fucked for the competition
If SANZAR were in charge of the 6N, Georgia would have been added, and it would be home and away (with France and England playing another test as well).
Even thought the on-field product doesn't always deliver, i envy the 6N
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@Snowy I think there would be a majority of NZ fans that feel the same as you do mate. But there are more and more of us that are over TRC.
@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@Snowy I think there would be a majority of NZ fans that feel the same as you do mate. But there are more and more of us that are over TRC.
So tours then? Like most of us have wanted for a long time. Mid week games, etc? A 3 test series against the Boks every 2 years with mid week against Bulls, Stormers, et al?
What are the other options? Just shut down the ABs? We've got to be in some matches somewhere.
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@Snowy said in NH International Rugby:
The 5 nations still seems to captivate fans
a number of reasons for that. It's nearly the perfect sporting competition
Geography. Not only same timezones, but very close to each other. It's easy for away fans to head to the host city and get amongst it.
History: Been going for ever. The countries have been rivals for hundreds of years before that.
Less is more: Play each other once a year. And at your house every 2. And every game means something. You drop a game and you might be fucked for the competition
If SANZAR were in charge of the 6N, Georgia would have been added, and it would be home and away (with France and England playing another test as well).
Even thought the on-field product doesn't always deliver, i envy the 6N
@mariner4life said in NH International Rugby:
Even thought the on-field product doesn't always deliver, i envy the 6N
Yeah. It is a great competition. Maybe that is where TRC should go. One match against each country, alternating years home and away, if fans really are jaded by it.
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@Snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@Snowy I think there would be a majority of NZ fans that feel the same as you do mate. But there are more and more of us that are over TRC.
So tours then? Like most of us have wanted for a long time. Mid week games, etc? A 3 test series against the Boks every 2 years with mid week against Bulls, Stormers, et al?
What are the other options? Just shut down the ABs? We've got to be in some matches somewhere.
Yeah in an ideal world where money was not the driving force. I really don't know what the options are either. I just know how I feel about a Boks vs Abs test. Or vs Australia. The Lustre is less. Not gone, just less.
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@Snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@Snowy I think there would be a majority of NZ fans that feel the same as you do mate. But there are more and more of us that are over TRC.
So tours then? Like most of us have wanted for a long time. Mid week games, etc? A 3 test series against the Boks every 2 years with mid week against Bulls, Stormers, et al?
What are the other options? Just shut down the ABs? We've got to be in some matches somewhere.
Yeah in an ideal world where money was not the driving force. I really don't know what the options are either. I just know how I feel about a Boks vs Abs test. Or vs Australia. The Lustre is less. Not gone, just less.
@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@Snowy said in NH International Rugby:
@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@Snowy I think there would be a majority of NZ fans that feel the same as you do mate. But there are more and more of us that are over TRC.
So tours then? Like most of us have wanted for a long time. Mid week games, etc? A 3 test series against the Boks every 2 years with mid week against Bulls, Stormers, et al?
What are the other options? Just shut down the ABs? We've got to be in some matches somewhere.
Yeah in an ideal world where moeny was not the driving force. I really don't know what the options are either. I just know how I feel about a Boks vs Abs test. Or vs Australia. The Lustre is less. Not gone, just less.
As I said - we gotta play somebody. Will that become boring too? There really are only eight good teams in rugby at any one time, sometimes fewer.
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As I said, I don't know what the options are. I'm just being honest that the regularity at which we play the Bok & Wallabies, added to (usually in any normal year) seeing these players over and over in Super Rugby has made it less of an event for me. I will always enjoy AB's rugby, so long as I'm lucky enough to see it. But I miss unfamiliarity, I guess. The unknown quantity that only NH powerhouses can now offer.
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@sparky I think you’ll find their fan base is pretty sick of the site of us and IMO many NZ fans are bored as shit with the Springboks. I am one of them.
The RC has become stagnant. Adding the Argies was good but it’s not the spectacle it once was.
@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky I think you’ll find their fan base is pretty sick of the site of us and IMO many NZ fans are bored as shit with the Springboks. I am one of them.
The RC has become stagnant. Adding the Argies was good but it’s not the spectacle it once was.
You mean you're not interested in seeing the ABs play the current world champs?
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@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky I think you’ll find their fan base is pretty sick of the site of us and IMO many NZ fans are bored as shit with the Springboks. I am one of them.
The RC has become stagnant. Adding the Argies was good but it’s not the spectacle it once was.
You mean you're not interested in seeing the ABs play the current world champs?
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@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@junior no. I am bored with the regularity at which we play them.
Fair enough.
How much of that has been driven by the fairly regular towellings we've given them in NZ over the last, say, 10 years?
Have you got more satisfaction from the times we've played them in RSA (because I have)?
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@raznomore said in NH International Rugby:
@junior no. I am bored with the regularity at which we play them.
Fair enough.
How much of that has been driven by the fairly regular towellings we've given them in NZ over the last, say, 10 years?
Have you got more satisfaction from the times we've played them in RSA (because I have)?
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@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
We're fucked if we don't get the boks in RC long term, don't care about SR, but do for RC
Laporte absolutely hates NZR for not letting the French clubs sign up current ABs. He'd love to fuck over the ABs.
That said I' d be surprised if Bok fans would rather play in some Mickey Mouse tournament rather than their Old Foe. IMHO the Boks against the ABs is the greatest rivalry in any sport.
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
IMHO the Boks against the ABs is the greatest rivalry in any sport.Wrong thread
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@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
IMHO the Boks against the ABs is the greatest rivalry in any sport.Wrong thread
I was beginning to think that South Africa had moved northwards....
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@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
IMHO the Boks against the ABs is the greatest rivalry in any sport.Wrong thread
I was beginning to think that South Africa had moved northwards....
@Derm-McCrum said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
IMHO the Boks against the ABs is the greatest rivalry in any sport.Wrong thread
I was beginning to think that South Africa had moved northwards....
Was referring to the opinion not the geography
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4071/the-hot-takes-and-unpopular-opinions/508
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@Derm-McCrum said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
IMHO the Boks against the ABs is the greatest rivalry in any sport.Wrong thread
I was beginning to think that South Africa had moved northwards....
Was referring to the opinion not the geography
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4071/the-hot-takes-and-unpopular-opinions/508
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@Derm-McCrum said in NH International Rugby:
@MiketheSnow said in NH International Rugby:
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
IMHO the Boks against the ABs is the greatest rivalry in any sport.Wrong thread
I was beginning to think that South Africa had moved northwards....
Was referring to the opinion not the geography
https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/4071/the-hot-takes-and-unpopular-opinions/508
Ah right.
I was referring to the topic not the opinion.
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All trials in the UK involving spectators returning to stadiums are now suspended. The reminder of the 6 Nations and the 8 Nations tournament to happen behind closed doors.
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
All trials in the UK involving spectators returning to stadiums are now suspended. The reminder of the 6 Nations and the 8 Nations tournament to happen behind closed doors.
Ouch. See, Martin Johnson, fuck off with your NH tour idiocy.
I can't see us getting SA or even Arg successfully too Oz. SA won't come and Arg will test positive somewhere. But at least we'll get the 4 Bleds in with crowds
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@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
All trials in the UK involving spectators returning to stadiums are now suspended. The reminder of the 6 Nations and the 8 Nations tournament to happen behind closed doors.
Ouch. See, Martin Johnson, fuck off with your NH tour idiocy.
I can't see us getting SA or even Arg successfully too Oz. SA won't come and Arg will test positive somewhere. But at least we'll get the 4 Bleds in with crowds
@Machpants said in NH International Rugby:
Ouch. See, Martin Johnson, fuck off with your NH tour idiocy.
Wasn't that Lawrence Dallaglio?
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All trials in the UK involving spectators returning to stadiums are now suspended. The reminder of the 6 Nations and the 8 Nations tournament to happen behind closed doors.
@sparky said in NH International Rugby:
All trials in the UK involving spectators returning to stadiums are now suspended. The reminder of the 6 Nations and the 8 Nations tournament to happen behind closed doors.
For anyone who would like to read more than just this one sentence, this is one article about it (no doubt there are more):
