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Chiefs 2019

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    @booboo

    Jack Debreczni. Born in Auckland. Hungarian parentage as the name suggests. Went to school in Australia and played for Aussie schoolboys.

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    @sparky said in Chiefs 2019:

    @booboo

    Jack Debreczni. Born in Auckland. Hungarian parentage as the name suggests. Went to school in Australia and played for Aussie schoolboys.

    @duluth said in Chiefs 2019:

    @booboo said in Chiefs 2019:

    Is Dobra ... Debra ... Debre ... the guy who played for the Rebels NZ eligible? If not I'm not a fan or giving an Aussie a contract.

    Born in Auckland and hasn’t played for Aus

    Thanks gents. All good then.

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      Being a prop at the chiefs is like being a 6 at the Highlanders...

      5 All Black props, jaysus!

      Edit: or is that 4, has Moli played for the ABs? Or is it just that there has been talk of it?

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      • GunnerG Gunner

        Being a prop at the chiefs is like being a 6 at the Highlanders...

        5 All Black props, jaysus!

        Edit: or is that 4, has Moli played for the ABs? Or is it just that there has been talk of it?

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        @gunner Moli came off the bench vs the French XV. No tests yet.

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          Being a prop at the chiefs is like being a 6 at the Highlanders...

          5 All Black props, jaysus!

          Edit: or is that 4, has Moli played for the ABs? Or is it just that there has been talk of it?

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          @gunner said in Super Rugby News:

          Being a prop at the chiefs is like being a 6 at the Highlanders...

          5 All Black props, jaysus!

          Edit: or is that 4, has Moli played for the ABs? Or is it just that there has been talk of it?

          From wiki

          This meant that after starting in a 31-22 loss against the All Blacks for the Barbarians coached by Robbie Deans on 4 November, Moli joined the All Blacks squad again, making his debut for New Zealand against a French XV 10 days later, replacing Tim Perry with 23 minutes left. Moli was one of six players to make their All Blacks debut in the 28-23 win.

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            It will be interesting to see how Debreczeni goes. He struggled at the Rebels and justifiably got passed by a couple of average tens. He always looked ok at fullback IMO

            He did play well for Northland though. Was that just because of the drop in class from SR to NPC?
            He's very large for a flyhalf, I do wonder if his size counts against him at SR level when things happen a bit faster

            Also he's still relatively young so maybe he's just improved

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              The Chiefs look inexperienced in the midfield, that could bite.

              I'm not convinced by MMac...maybe he was still contracted.

              Disappointed that Tupaea is not signed...off to the Blues maybe??

              I really want to see what the fuss over Fin Hoeata is all about.

              Overall a fairly settled squad...

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              • OleOleOleO OleOleOle

                The Chiefs look inexperienced in the midfield, that could bite.

                I'm not convinced by MMac...maybe he was still contracted.

                Disappointed that Tupaea is not signed...off to the Blues maybe??

                I really want to see what the fuss over Fin Hoeata is all about.

                Overall a fairly settled squad...

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                @oleoleole said in Chiefs 2019:

                The Chiefs look inexperienced in the midfield, that could bite.

                A lot of pressure on ALB now to stay injury-free. Nankivell is lucky and has never looked completely comfortable at SR level.

                The Chiefs have a lot of versatility in the backs with numerous players able to slot in at multiple positions. Putting them in the right positions will be important!

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                  Looks kind of weak in the backs without Maori Jesus.

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @oleoleole said in Chiefs 2019:

                    The Chiefs look inexperienced in the midfield, that could bite.

                    A lot of pressure on ALB now to stay injury-free. Nankivell is lucky and has never looked completely comfortable at SR level.

                    The Chiefs have a lot of versatility in the backs with numerous players able to slot in at multiple positions. Putting them in the right positions will be important!

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                    @bovidae Yeah - not sure why they'd keep Nankivell ahead of Aumua unless they had to. Alex doesn't really inspire confidence in me at NPC level.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      @oleoleole said in Chiefs 2019:

                      The Chiefs look inexperienced in the midfield, that could bite.

                      A lot of pressure on ALB now to stay injury-free. Nankivell is lucky and has never looked completely comfortable at SR level.

                      The Chiefs have a lot of versatility in the backs with numerous players able to slot in at multiple positions. Putting them in the right positions will be important!

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                      @bovidae said in Chiefs 2019:

                      @oleoleole said in Chiefs 2019:

                      The Chiefs look inexperienced in the midfield, that could bite.

                      A lot of pressure on ALB now to stay injury-free. Nankivell is lucky and has never looked completely comfortable at SR level.

                      The Chiefs have a lot of versatility in the backs with numerous players able to slot in at multiple positions. Putting them in the right positions will be important!

                      Yeah. Cooper has already mentioned Moeakiola as being a midfielder/winger. Could be interesting.

                      Like all of the teams some of the gambles/necessities in previous years are hanging around even if we can all see better options.
                      Would be nice if franchises had enough money to pay players out at times.

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                        so is Moeakiola eligible for NZ?

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @bovidae Yeah - not sure why they'd keep Nankivell ahead of Aumua unless they had to. Alex doesn't really inspire confidence in me at NPC level.

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                          @chris-b Think Nankivel was on a two year contract.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            so is Moeakiola eligible for NZ?

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                            @taniwharugby said in Chiefs 2019:

                            so is Moeakiola eligible for NZ?

                            I don't think so. He's a Tongan who's played for Japan (U20s at least).

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                              This is weird, I kind of think that Wainui will wind up being our best midfielder (aside from ALB of course), he turned a corner last year with his performances and the rest of the midfield stocks aren't outstanding.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @chris-b Think Nankivel was on a two year contract.

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                                @tim said in Chiefs 2019:

                                @chris-b Think Nankivel was on a two year contract.

                                Yes. He'll have plenty to prove this year to get another. Aumua and Verney had 1-yr deals.

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                                  Glad we got Manu, ALB to 12, Manu 13. But after that the midfield looks weak. Nankivelli must be the worst Ta$man midfielder! And, still with MMac FFS. Hurricanes have outside backs stacked up and we’ve got him. Fuck you Cooper.

                                  Locks and loosies look reliant on two familiar faces - feel like we missed a trick not getting one of the younger locks (ala highlanders).

                                  I’m good news though, we kept Stevenson and Alaimalo, and we potentially have the best prop depth of any franchise.

                                  Semi-final looks a good result, doesn’t appear to be a Champiobship team.

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                                  • gt12G gt12

                                    Glad we got Manu, ALB to 12, Manu 13. But after that the midfield looks weak. Nankivelli must be the worst Ta$man midfielder! And, still with MMac FFS. Hurricanes have outside backs stacked up and we’ve got him. Fuck you Cooper.

                                    Locks and loosies look reliant on two familiar faces - feel like we missed a trick not getting one of the younger locks (ala highlanders).

                                    I’m good news though, we kept Stevenson and Alaimalo, and we potentially have the best prop depth of any franchise.

                                    Semi-final looks a good result, doesn’t appear to be a Champiobship team.

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                                    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:

                                    And, still with MMac FFS. Hurricanes have outside backs stacked up and we’ve got him. Fuck you Cooper.

                                    It's like the Whitelocks in the ABs, buy one and get one free. 🤣

                                    Locks and loosies look reliant on two familiar faces - feel like we missed a trick not getting one of the younger locks (ala highlanders).

                                    Who in particular? Whetton? Parkinson was already signed.

                                    I'm comfortable with the Chiefs' locking stocks if BBBR is there. Develop McWhannell and you have an experienced trio (BBBR, Ardron, Allardice) to work with. Hoeata is the big unknown as he didn't play all year.

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                                      So, I wonder if McNicol is ever going to make it back into rugby? I assume without his concussion issues he would have had a midfield/utility back spot.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        @gt12 said in Chiefs 2019:

                                        And, still with MMac FFS. Hurricanes have outside backs stacked up and we’ve got him. Fuck you Cooper.

                                        It's like the Whitelocks in the ABs, buy one and get one free. 🤣

                                        Locks and loosies look reliant on two familiar faces - feel like we missed a trick not getting one of the younger locks (ala highlanders).

                                        Who in particular? Whetton? Parkinson was already signed.

                                        I'm comfortable with the Chiefs' locking stocks if BBBR is there. Develop McWhannell and you have an experienced trio (BBBR, Ardron, Allardice) to work with. Hoeata is the big unknown as he didn't play all year.

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                                        @bovidae

                                        Wheaton was the obvious one, but I’ll admit I don’t know too much about the guy you are talking about. Either way, not much class after Brodie. After last year, I think Ardern looks best as a 6/lock, and we may need him there with our loosie rotation.

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                                        • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                          Cooper has selected an extra prop (O'Neill), probably because of the uncertainty over Hames and Moli.

                                          As mentioned in the SR thread, I am disappointed for Tucker, who had a great M10 season. Perhaps his injury is serious, or he will be picked up by another team. Hoeata was a permanent food bill this year. I have big hopes for McWhannell.

                                          Sowakula did OK without setting the world on fire but I can understand his selection as a no.8.

                                          Halfbacks - rumours about Roe were unfounded.

                                          1st 5s - Debreczeni's selection rumour was correct. MMac still gets himself a spot though.

                                          Midfield - no Tupaea surprises me. The Chiefs better have him signed though.

                                          Outside backs - great to have Stevenson back and Nanai-Seturo. I don't really consider Wainui a specialist winger as he lacks pace. Moeakiola played for the Sunwolves but I didn't really watch them (apart from the Chiefs game). I would have preferred a NZ player.

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                                          @bovidae said in Chiefs 2019:

                                          Cooper has selected an extra prop (O'Neill), probably because of the uncertainty over Hames and Moli.

                                          As mentioned in the SR thread, I am disappointed for Tucker, who had a great M10 season. Perhaps his injury is serious, or he will be picked up by another team. Hoeata was a permanent food bill this year. I have big hopes for McWhannell.

                                          Sowakula did OK without setting the world on fire but I can understand his selection as a no.8.

                                          Halfbacks - rumours about Roe were unfounded.

                                          1st 5s - Debreczeni's selection rumour was correct. MMac still gets himself a spot though.

                                          Midfield - no Tupaea surprises me. The Chiefs better have him signed though.

                                          Outside backs - great to have Stevenson back and Nanai-Seturo. I don't really consider Wainui a specialist winger as he lacks pace. Moeakiola played for the Sunwolves but I didn't really watch them (apart from the Chiefs game). I would have preferred a NZ player.

                                          agree with your comments. Tucker was on fire so that's a shame. Quinn over Bailyn seemed like a no brainer - but not sure how far back contracts are signed..

                                          Although it doesn't really happen these days would be nice to see some reward of players with the catchment zone being rewarded - by that I mean Sevu over jap guy.. but heard coach on radio this morning saying htat contract was signed before Sevus fell over.

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