JK vs BigRed
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How much do you weight JK? <br>
30 is fucken much at any weight. <br><br>
We were having a 'off-road' running training with the rugby team and at the end stopped to do chins 3x max and the oldest guy in our team hit 34(his age) on the first set and then 20 twice I think. He weighs around 73-75kg. -
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<p>How much do you weight JK?<br>
30 is fucken much at any weight.<br><br>
We were having a 'off-road' running training with the rugby team and at the end stopped to do chins 3x max and the oldest guy in our team hit 34(his age) on the first set and then 20 twice I think. He weighs around 73-75kg.</p>
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<p>Fine effort for sure but as Paeks mentioned definitely easier for those who are lighter. It's still "weight x reps" afterall.....</p>
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<p>This calculator only goes to 20 reps but I find it pretty accurate, a bloke doing 20 reps at 75kg is about the same as me or Paeks doing 5 reps at ( ahem ) 105kg or so......( fat fluffybunnies :whistle: )</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="MN5" data-cid="582256" data-time="1464087781"><p>Fine effort for sure but as Paeks mentioned definitely easier for those who are lighter. It's still "weight x reps" afterall.....<br><br>
This calculator only goes to 20 reps but I find it pretty accurate, a bloke doing 20 reps at 75kg is about the same as me or Paeks doing 5 reps at ( ahem ) 105kg or so......( fat fluffybunnys :whistle: )</p></blockquote>
So its even more for me at about 110kg :hi: -
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<p>So its even more for me at about 110kg :hi:</p>
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<p>Yep but apparently 13 and over puts ya in the "excellent" category no matter the weight.</p> -
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<p>How much do you weight JK?<br>
30 is fucken much at any weight.<br><br>
We were having a 'off-road' running training with the rugby team and at the end stopped to do chins 3x max and the oldest guy in our team hit 34(his age) on the first set and then 20 twice I think. He weighs around 73-75kg.</p>
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<p>Pretty much 80kg on the dot mate.</p>
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<p>And not sure you can directly compare adding 30kg weight to me vs someone who ways say 110kg. You would hope they had a bit more muscle than me and not just dead weight like the 30kg I added</p> -
<p>Today was back and shoulders. Love training shoulders, but back bores me.</p>
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<p>Lat pulldowns - 20x54kg, 15x60, 10x66</p>
<p>BB rows - 20x40kg, 15x50, 10x55</p>
<p>Hyperextensions - 20 reps, +10kg x 15, 15 reps</p>
<p>Straight arm pulldowns - 20x44kg, 15x50, 12x56</p>
<p>Closegrip pulldowns - 20x54kg, 15x60</p>
<p>Cable lat raises - 20x5kg, 15x8, 15x8</p>
<p>BB upright rows - 20x30kg, 15x35, 10x40, 10x40 dropset --> 10x35</p>
<p>DB lat raises triple dropsets - 10x10kg/side --> 10x7.5 --> 10x5 X 3 sets</p>
<p>DB overhead press giant sets - 10x10kg/side --> 10x12.5 --> 10x15 --> 10x17.5 --> 8x20 (30secs rest) --> 10x17.5 --> 10x15 --> 10x12.5 --> 10x10 X 2 sets (these are just killer!)</p>
<p>Cable front raises - 10x26kg, 15x20, 20x14</p>
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<p>Pretty much 80kg on the dot mate.</p>
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<p>And not sure you can directly compare adding 30kg weight to me vs someone who ways say 110kg. You would hope they had a bit more muscle than me and not just dead weight like the 30kg I added</p>
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<p>I suppose it is relative to some degree, that bloke who plays the mountain in GOT is a good example. At his weight even if he managed only a few reps ( I'd estimate at least 10 ) that still makes him a fuckload stronger than any of us.</p> -
<p>I think that just shows you are a beast JK!!</p>
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<p>In my training experience there are fuckers :whistle: (I mean GC's ) like JK floating around... dudes with really good power/weight who can dominate body-weight and weighted exercises. Sure us bigger fullas might have bigger lifts in absolute numbers but doubt we'd match it in terms of volume at a % body-weight. </p>
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<p>I watch <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.youtube.com/user/BodybuildingRev'>bodybuildingrev</a> vids on youtube - it's a German channel that matches all sorts of lifters against each other. It's cool stuff if you can get past the rah rah guff. Often the lighter guys (they are all pretty much elite in their domains) do better on the max rep stuff, but sometimes get snaked by the bigger boys when they tire or grip strength goes.</p>
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<p>It's a cool aspect of lifting I reckon. You can see an average sized dude that looks fit and pretty strong and then watch them go HAM on some big ass weights. By the same token you can have someone that might be much bigger who can't shift as much weight.</p> -
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<p>I think that just shows you are a beast JK!!</p>
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<p>In my training experience there are fuckers :whistle: (I mean GC's ) like JK floating around... dudes with really good power/weight who can dominate body-weight and weighted exercises. Sure us bigger fullas might have bigger lifts in absolute numbers but doubt we'd match it in terms of volume at a % body-weight. </p>
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<p>I watch <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.youtube.com/user/BodybuildingRev'>bodybuildingrev</a> vids on youtube - it's a German channel that matches all sorts of lifters against each other. It's cool stuff if you can get past the rah rah guff. Often the lighter guys (they are all pretty much elite in their domains) do better on the max rep stuff, but sometimes get snaked by the bigger boys when they tire or grip strength goes.</p>
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<p>It's a cool aspect of lifting I reckon. You can see an average sized dude that looks fit and pretty strong and then watch them go HAM on some big ass weights. By the same token you can have someone that might be much bigger who can't shift as much weight.</p>
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<p>Different schools of thought on it all I guess, as I mentioned in one of the other threads Scots centre Richie Vernon chinned 174kg once which is the record at the Glasgow Warriors. That's him plus 72kg in plates, great effort, however he didn't feature in the squats ( not too surprisingly, he's pretty chicken legged for a rugby player ). By their standards ( say what you want about Scots players skills being behind a few countries but they have some athletes ) his absolute strength in that movement is the best in the squad. For our boy JK to do that he'd need to chuck on 94kg in plates, or in other words more than his weight. Conversely one of the props/locks who is 120kg or more would "only" need about 50kg. But in terms of numbers of reps JK could clean up in most pro rugby teams I'd reckon.</p>
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<p>Whether or not the weight is hanging off you or part of your physical make up it's all the same when it comes to absolute strength, but as Paeks said JK is a strong bugger by any standards especially when you consider the average man on the street can do nil to fuck all chins......</p>
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<p>Coping with man love but struggling get my head around it all.</p>
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<p>I think of it more this way, so our Scottish friend chins 174kg, which is his weight plus 72kg or another 70% of his body weight.</p>
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<p>Wouldn't it be more comparable for me therefore to have to chin my weight plus another 70% of my body weight, ie another 56kg. So my comparable total weight would need to be 136kg.</p>
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<p>Could I do one single chin up with 56kg strapped to me? maybe....</p>
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<p>From an absolute strength perspective.....no fkn way!</p> -
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<p>Coping with man love but struggling get my head around it all.</p>
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<p>I think of it more this way, so our Scottish friend chins 174kg, which is his weight plus 72kg or another 70% of his body weight.</p>
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<p>Wouldn't it be more comparable for me therefore to have to chin my weight plus another 70% of my body weight, ie another 56kg. So my comparable total weight would need to be 136kg.</p>
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<p>Could I do one single chin up with 56kg strapped to me? maybe....</p>
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<p>From an absolute strength perspective.....no fkn way!</p>
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<p>You'd smoke 56kg brudda. Easy.</p> -
<p>yeah I'd back you to hit 56kg. </p>
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<p>ha ha you should give it a crack!!</p> -
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<p>yeah I'd back you to hit 56kg. </p>
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<p>ha ha you should give it a crack!!</p>
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<p>I've done 50kg, it was rather tough. Also did around 55kg but that was at the park with both sons hanging on and suspect the ROM might not have quite been perfect.</p> -
<p>Took it easy today and legs have not recovered well from Tuesdays efforts. Havent had DOMS like this for a long time and it will be due to not really having hit legs with a full workout for a while as it's just been squats and straight leg deads under the previous programme. Feeling it everywhere too - glutes, quads, hammies and calves (the worst!).</p>
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<p>So today....</p>
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<p>25mins cycle</p>
<p>15mins rolling and mobility</p>
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<p>wait another couple of days and you'll be feeling jacked bro. </p>
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<p>You love it!</p>
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<p>Chest and arms usual friday. Still farken sore in the legs.Have not recovered well this week. Also got a few achy joints, shoulders, elbows etc. Not good.</p>
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<p>Warmup was just a few sets of pressups, some stretches and rubber bands.</p>
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<p>Hammersmith incline chest press - 20x20kg/side, 15x35, 10x40,12x40, 10x40, 10x40 dropset --> 15x30</p>
<p>Machine flies - 20x48kg, 15x54, 15x60</p>
<p>Preacher curls - 12x25kg wide grip superset --> 12x25kg narrow grip, 12x30 wide --> 12x30 narrow, 12x30 wide --> 12x30 narrow</p>
<p>Tricep rope push downs - 20x38kg superset with 12 reps bench dips, 20x44 --> 12 dips, 20x44 --> 12dips</p>
<p>Chins (for biceps) - 15 unweights, + 15kg as 12, +30kg x 6, 6, 20 unweighted</p>
<p>Incline skullcrushers - 20x22kg, 15x27, 15x27, 15x27</p>
<p>Incline Hammer curls - 20x10kg/side, 20x12.5, 20x12.5, 20x12.5</p>
<p>Dips - 15, 15, 20, 20 reps</p>
<p>Reverse cable curls - 20x20kg, 15x26 dropset --> 15x20 X 2 each superset with 15-20 dips</p>
