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All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson

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    @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    I can’t see them starting a test match with Richie at 10 and Jordie at 15. Not this early in their careers. Given the importance of our 10 and 15 in counter attack, playmaking etc, they need at least one of our experienced heads to be there.

    Exactly.

    The spine runs from 2 to 8, 9, 10 and 15. A rookie 10 should be supported with experience at 12 and 15.

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    @crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    I can’t see them starting a test match with Richie at 10 and Jordie at 15. Not this early in their careers. Given the importance of our 10 and 15 in counter attack, playmaking etc, they need at least one of our experienced heads to be there.

    Exactly.

    The spine runs from 2 to 8, 9, 10 and 15. A rookie 10 should be supported with experience at 12 and 15.

    Again, broadly agree. That said, BFA at 14 would allow quite a lot of input. If more required Waiseke gets a day off.

    P.S. I'd be surprised in Crotty doesn't get a start in the land of his father.

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      @crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

      @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

      I can’t see them starting a test match with Richie at 10 and Jordie at 15. Not this early in their careers. Given the importance of our 10 and 15 in counter attack, playmaking etc, they need at least one of our experienced heads to be there.

      Exactly.

      The spine runs from 2 to 8, 9, 10 and 15. A rookie 10 should be supported with experience at 12 and 15.

      Again, broadly agree. That said, BFA at 14 would allow quite a lot of input. If more required Waiseke gets a day off.

      P.S. I'd be surprised in Crotty doesn't get a start in the land of his father.

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      @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

      @crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

      @act-crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

      I can’t see them starting a test match with Richie at 10 and Jordie at 15. Not this early in their careers. Given the importance of our 10 and 15 in counter attack, playmaking etc, they need at least one of our experienced heads to be there.

      Exactly.

      The spine runs from 2 to 8, 9, 10 and 15. A rookie 10 should be supported with experience at 12 and 15.

      Again, broadly agree. That said, BFA at 14 would allow quite a lot of input. If more required Waiseke gets a day off.

      P.S. I'd be surprised in Crotty doesn't get a start in the land of his father.

      I wouldn’t be changing Naholo. He’s in the same camp as Squire for me and starts every test match in this RC. Since first making the ABs he’s been more broken than available, so as long as he’s fit he needs game time. Plus we need his pace against the quick Argie backs.

      On Crotty, Hansen doesn’t really do sentimentality.

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        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/106815599/Ryan-Crotty-and-Sam-Cane-both-declared-fit-for-All-Blacks-selection-on-Saturday

        Cane and Crotty both down on game time, and a steady 12 outside Mo'unga?

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          Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

          tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

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            Forum is stuffing up links, you'll have to copy and paste link, then cut out the forum part of the url

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              Forum is stuffing up links, you'll have to copy and paste link, then cut out the forum part of the url

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              @machpants Cheers, I've removed the https://www part from the url and the link seems to work now.

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                @wreck-diver In the day people used to joke that there was a shiver running up and down Bill Rowlings's back looking for a spine.

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                @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                @wreck-diver In the day people used to joke that there was a shiver running up and down Bill Rowlings's back looking for a spine.

                Thats probably because he was a Labour muppet

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                  Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                  tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

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                  @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                  tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                  The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

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                    @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                    tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                    The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

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                    @wreck-diver interesting how he says "and I felt...we felt as a coaching group..."

                    Tbh I think if he has the right people around him I can't see any issues, maybe Razor to come in under him as the heir apparent?

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @wreck-diver interesting how he says "and I felt...we felt as a coaching group..."

                      Tbh I think if he has the right people around him I can't see any issues, maybe Razor to come in under him as the heir apparent?

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                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      @wreck-diver interesting how he says "and I felt...we felt as a coaching group..."

                      Tbh I think if he has the right people around him I can't see any issues, maybe Razor to come in under him as the heir apparent?

                      Thats like suggesting Deans should have been AB coach 2008 :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                        @wreck-diver interesting how he says "and I felt...we felt as a coaching group..."

                        Tbh I think if he has the right people around him I can't see any issues, maybe Razor to come in under him as the heir apparent?

                        Thats like suggesting Deans should have been AB coach 2008 :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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                        @wreck-diver don't think he wanted to be an assistant.

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                          @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                          @wreck-diver In the day people used to joke that there was a shiver running up and down Bill Rowlings's back looking for a spine.

                          Thats probably because he was a Labour muppet

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                          @wreck-diver Yeah coz the country was sooo much better off under Piggy LOL

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                            @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                            Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                            tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                            The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

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                            @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                            @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                            Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                            tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                            The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

                            Ahhhhhhhhh!

                            Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

                            What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

                            Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

                            He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

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                            • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

                              @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                              tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                              The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

                              Ahhhhhhhhh!

                              Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

                              What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

                              Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

                              He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

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                              @chester-draws said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                              tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                              The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

                              Ahhhhhhhhh!

                              Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

                              What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

                              Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

                              He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

                              Please don't compare those swamp rats from the Waikato to the AB environment thats like comparing a zephar to a procshe

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                                @chester-draws said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                                tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                                The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

                                Ahhhhhhhhh!

                                Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

                                What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

                                Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

                                He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

                                Please don't compare those swamp rats from the Waikato to the AB environment thats like comparing a zephar to a procshe

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                                @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @chester-draws said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                                tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                                The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

                                Ahhhhhhhhh!

                                Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

                                What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

                                Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

                                He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

                                Please don't compare those swamp rats from the Waikato to the AB environment thats like comparing a zephar to a procshe

                                I may just be a swamp rat, but at least I know how to spell Zephyr & Porsche

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                                  @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @chester-draws said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                                  tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                                  The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

                                  Ahhhhhhhhh!

                                  Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

                                  What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

                                  Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

                                  He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

                                  Please don't compare those swamp rats from the Waikato to the AB environment thats like comparing a zephar to a procshe

                                  I may just be a swamp rat, but at least I know how to spell Zephyr & Porsche

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                                  @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

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                                    @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

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                                    @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                    @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                                    And punctuation?

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                                      @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                                      And punctuation?

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                                      @catogrande said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                      @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                                      And punctuation?

                                      As Mark Richardson used to say no one likes a corrector.

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                                        @catogrande said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                                        And punctuation?

                                        As Mark Richardson used to say no one likes a corrector.

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                                        @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @catogrande said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                        @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                                        And punctuation?

                                        As Mark Richardson used to say no one likes a corrector.

                                        It was definitely Mark Richardson?

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                                          @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

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                                          @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                          @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                                          That's good to know ... you are probably the only one.

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