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All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @wreck-diver interesting how he says "and I felt...we felt as a coaching group..."

    Tbh I think if he has the right people around him I can't see any issues, maybe Razor to come in under him as the heir apparent?

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    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

    @wreck-diver interesting how he says "and I felt...we felt as a coaching group..."

    Tbh I think if he has the right people around him I can't see any issues, maybe Razor to come in under him as the heir apparent?

    Thats like suggesting Deans should have been AB coach 2008 :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

      @wreck-diver interesting how he says "and I felt...we felt as a coaching group..."

      Tbh I think if he has the right people around him I can't see any issues, maybe Razor to come in under him as the heir apparent?

      Thats like suggesting Deans should have been AB coach 2008 :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

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      @wreck-diver don't think he wanted to be an assistant.

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        @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

        @wreck-diver In the day people used to joke that there was a shiver running up and down Bill Rowlings's back looking for a spine.

        Thats probably because he was a Labour muppet

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        @wreck-diver Yeah coz the country was sooo much better off under Piggy LOL

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          @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

          Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

          tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

          The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

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          @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

          @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

          Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

          tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

          The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

          Ahhhhhhhhh!

          Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

          What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

          Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

          He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

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          • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

            @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

            tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

            The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

            Ahhhhhhhhh!

            Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

            What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

            Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

            He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

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            @chester-draws said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

            Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

            tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

            The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

            Ahhhhhhhhh!

            Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

            What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

            Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

            He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

            Please don't compare those swamp rats from the Waikato to the AB environment thats like comparing a zephar to a procshe

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              @chester-draws said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

              tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

              The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

              Ahhhhhhhhh!

              Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

              What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

              Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

              He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

              Please don't compare those swamp rats from the Waikato to the AB environment thats like comparing a zephar to a procshe

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              @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              @chester-draws said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

              Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

              tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

              The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

              Ahhhhhhhhh!

              Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

              What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

              Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

              He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

              Please don't compare those swamp rats from the Waikato to the AB environment thats like comparing a zephar to a procshe

              I may just be a swamp rat, but at least I know how to spell Zephyr & Porsche

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              • MajorPomM MajorPom

                @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                @chester-draws said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                @stargazer said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                Ian Foster explains why Mo'unga wasn't released for Mitre 10 Cup (video in article):

                tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/we-felt-hed-benefit-richie-moungas-all-blacks-waterboy-stint-explained

                The more and more I hear Foster talk I think we are in good hands going forward after Shag.

                Ahhhhhhhhh!

                Foster talked up a storm for the Chiefs too. He's a likeable man, who knows a lot about rugby.

                What he couldn't do was sustain good performances in his teams. Something was wrong with the way he mentally prepared them. The Chiefs were fragile, even when winning.

                Also he couldn't sack his favourites. Promising players who were promoted but didn't deliver (de Malmanche, say) were never dropped.

                He's not a terrible coach, but we have better options.

                Please don't compare those swamp rats from the Waikato to the AB environment thats like comparing a zephar to a procshe

                I may just be a swamp rat, but at least I know how to spell Zephyr & Porsche

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                @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

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                  @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

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                  @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                  @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                  And punctuation?

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                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                    @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                    And punctuation?

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                    @catogrande said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                    @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                    And punctuation?

                    As Mark Richardson used to say no one likes a corrector.

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                      @catogrande said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                      And punctuation?

                      As Mark Richardson used to say no one likes a corrector.

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                      @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      @catogrande said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                      @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                      And punctuation?

                      As Mark Richardson used to say no one likes a corrector.

                      It was definitely Mark Richardson?

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                        @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

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                        @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                        @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                        That's good to know ... you are probably the only one.

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                          @catogrande said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                          @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                          @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                          And punctuation?

                          As Mark Richardson used to say no one likes a corrector.

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                          @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                          @catogrande said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                          @wreck-diver said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                          @majorrage And I GAF what you think of my spelling.

                          And punctuation?

                          As Mark Richardson used to say no one likes a corrector.

                          As Mark Richardson meant, if he was smart enough to realise it - "nobody who always gets shit wrong likes a corrector".

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                            Was that Mort Robinson?

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              Stab at the back line from 9 to 15, 21 to 23

                              Aaron, Richie, Reiko, Ryan, Anton, Nehe, Ben

                              TTT, Damien, Ngani

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                              @billy-tell said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                              Stab at the back line from 9 to 15, 21 to 23

                              Aaron, Richie, Reiko, Ryan, Anton, Nehe, Ben

                              TTT, Damien, Ngani

                              Well that was a fail

                              TJ, Richie, Waisake, Ngani, Jack, Nehe, Ben

                              TTT, Damien, Anton

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                                Whitelock (L) covering 7??!!

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                                  Whitelock (L) covering 7??!!

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                                  @pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

                                  Whitelock (L) covering 7??!!

                                  That was my fist concern looking at the side ,

                                  Is Ardie going to play 80 minutes ?

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                                    I don't see why Read couldn't cover 7, with what we now expect from our openside.

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                                      If they throw on TTT and DMac for Smith, it's a pretty green backline.

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                                        All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen said: “While we’ve made a number of changes from our last outing, this is not a reflection on Argentina but rather a desire by us to grow the experience and depth of our squad. Secondary to that, we also know that if we don’t use the whole squad across a long season, we’ll run out of steam later in the year.
                                        
                                        “In making these changes, it also needs to be said that the high expectation we place on ourselves remains the same, regardless of who we’ve selected. The All Blacks jersey demands this.”
                                        
                                        Hansen added: “We’re very aware of the Argentinian challenge. We know that they’re hungry for Test success against the All Blacks and after their recent win over South Africa, they’ll be coming here confident that they can achieve their desired goal.
                                        
                                        “This means that we’ll need to step up with our own response and be better than we were in our recent Test in Auckland. We’ll need to concentrate on setting a strong foundation throughout the 80 minutes, particularly in our set pieces and our strike plays, along with our defence. Throughout the week we’ve concentrated on getting our personal and team processes right and delivering on these will also be key come Saturday.”
                                        
                                        Key facts
                                        
                                        • Nelson has strong historical connections to New Zealand’s national game: the first recognised game of rugby played in New Zealand took place on Saturday 14 May 1870 between Nelson College and the Nelson Football Club. A crowd of 200 watched the game at Nelson’s Botanic Reserve with the “Town” team beating the College side 2-0.
                                        • The nearest the All Blacks have come to playing in Nelson was in 1972 when they played Marlborough in Blenheim. They won 59-10.
                                        • The All Blacks and Argentina have played each other 26 times since 1976 with the All Blacks winning 25 times and a 21-all draw in Buenos Aires in 1985.one draw.
                                        • The last remaining tickets to the Nelson Test are still available from www.allblacks.com/tickets
                                        

                                        Can't believe it isn't a sell-out (yet).

                                        .

                                        http://allblacks.com/News/32993/all-blacks-team-named-for-nelson-test

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                                          So only Hemopo with no time so far? I guess he'll give a crack in Arg. Some of the heavy hours guys may miss that week and go straight to SA again like last year, I guess.

                                          Green team, esp bench, if Argy can actually play well twice in a row it could be tight. Actually, I think it will be tight as we're always crap first game against them at home - Bledisloe secured, Boks next week, relax subconsciously.

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