All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson

[Stargazer]

All Blacks Head Coach Steve Hansen said: “While we’ve made a number of changes from our last outing, this is not a reflection on Argentina but rather a desire by us to grow the experience and depth of our squad. Secondary to that, we also know that if we don’t use the whole squad across a long season, we’ll run out of steam later in the year.

“In making these changes, it also needs to be said that the high expectation we place on ourselves remains the same, regardless of who we’ve selected. The All Blacks jersey demands this.”

Hansen added: “We’re very aware of the Argentinian challenge. We know that they’re hungry for Test success against the All Blacks and after their recent win over South Africa, they’ll be coming here confident that they can achieve their desired goal.

“This means that we’ll need to step up with our own response and be better than we were in our recent Test in Auckland. We’ll need to concentrate on setting a strong foundation throughout the 80 minutes, particularly in our set pieces and our strike plays, along with our defence. Throughout the week we’ve concentrated on getting our personal and team processes right and delivering on these will also be key come Saturday.”

Key facts

• Nelson has strong historical connections to New Zealand’s national game: the first recognised game of rugby played in New Zealand took place on Saturday 14 May 1870 between Nelson College and the Nelson Football Club. A crowd of 200 watched the game at Nelson’s Botanic Reserve with the “Town” team beating the College side 2-0.
• The nearest the All Blacks have come to playing in Nelson was in 1972 when they played Marlborough in Blenheim. They won 59-10.
• The All Blacks and Argentina have played each other 26 times since 1976 with the All Blacks winning 25 times and a 21-all draw in Buenos Aires in 1985.one draw.
• The last remaining tickets to the Nelson Test are still available from www.allblacks.com/tickets

Can't believe it isn't a sell-out (yet).

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http://allblacks.com/News/32993/all-blacks-team-named-for-nelson-test

[Machpants]

So only Hemopo with no time so far? I guess he'll give a crack in Arg. Some of the heavy hours guys may miss that week and go straight to SA again like last year, I guess.

Green team, esp bench, if Argy can actually play well twice in a row it could be tight. Actually, I think it will be tight as we're always crap first game against them at home - Bledisloe secured, Boks next week, relax subconsciously.

[Machpants]

"This is the All Blacks' first test in Nelson and they've definitely embraced the good weather and relaxed atmosphere." I hope not, last time we had lots of embracing the atmosphere reports and selfies from the ABs was in Chicago...

[ACT Crusader]

@machpants said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

"This is the All Blacks' first test in Nelson and they've definitely embraced the good weather and relaxed atmosphere." I hope not, last time we had lots of embracing the atmosphere reports and selfies from the ABs was in Chicago...

Ahh yes the city of Chicago is very comparable with the great metropolis of Nelson

[Chris B.]

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2018/09/nelson-buzzing-ahead-of-historic-all-blacks-test.html

Video gives a brief summary of how Nelson got this test. Inno-fucking-vation!!!

n.b. We've redone the drainage, but it won't be required for this game - there's been two days of sun already dried out the ground and more to come.

https://www.yr.no/place/New_Zealand/Nelson/Nelson/

It's going to be hard and fast!

[Chris B.]

Interesting team - Hansen's made more changes than I thought he would - though I guess Rieko and Moody are injury enforced.

I'm slightly surprised that Frizell gets the start ahead of Squire and I'm a bit surprised to see TTT on the bench.

If Perenara pulls up lame in the first five minutes we'll have an backs combo of TTT, Mo'unga, Laumape, Goodhue - less than 10 caps between them?

[pakman]

@crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

@pakman said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

My take (excluding Crotty, notwithstanding AB suggestions he's fully recovered):

15 Jordie Barrett
14 milner skuddar
13 Jack goodhue
12 Anton Lienert-Brown
11 waisake Naholo
10 richie mo'unga
9 aaron Smith
8 Kieran Reid
7 ardie savea
6 Liam Squire
5 Brodie retallick
4 scott Barrett
3 owen Franks
2 Codie Taylor
1 Karl tuuinukuafe

Replacements-
Tim Perry
Ofa Tu’ungafasi
nathan Harris
Sam cane
Jason Hemopo
Te taraua tahuriorangi
Damian McKenzie
ngani laumape

Too many changes I think. I get the opportunity to give some guys a break before the rest of the year but if BB is going to rest we need BFA at 15 to keep an experienced read on things.
Also think that if/when RM is going to start, they will pair him with Crotty.

Glad they rested Cane and Crotty. Not a fan of Whitelock (L) covering 7 (if that's the plan). Guess after the Argies handled Bok pack TWM decided Whitelock (S) had to be there to cover BBBR.

Frizzell gets slot Fifita so shone in last year.

BFA makes sense, but TJP and Laumape sandwiching Ritchie on debut suggests a deep end approach (versus my Nugget/ALB combo). One thought is they want a straight comparison with how BB goes between them at Super level. If the backline gels, maybe Laumape's communication isn't that bad?!

[antipodean]

this is not a reflection on Argentina

Really, it is.

[Nepia]

Shit, is that the 'B-ist' team we've played in a long time?

[mariner4life]

Shit team in a shit location. lucky the Warriors are on

[Stargazer]

I'm a bit surprised it took this long to sell out.

When the All Blacks and Argentina take the field on Saturday night, it will be in front of a sold out crowd of 21,480 fans with Trafalgar Park’s capacity increased with an additional 14,872 temporary seats installed especially for the Investec Rugby Championship Test match.

http://www.allblacks.com/News/32998/trafalgar-park-sold-out-for-all-blacks-test-match

[KiwiMurph]

@stargazer I believe tickets were rather pricey.

[Stargazer]

@kiwimurph Aren't they always?

[dK]

Fuck, we complain a lot, what a shit bunch of fans

[MN5]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

Shit team in a shit location. lucky the Warriors are on

DO NOT diss Nelson you Queensland Bogan fluffybunny.

[Stargazer]

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This is translated by google, but you'll get it:

The squad traveled on New Zealand Thursday afternoon to Nelson with the team confirmed to face the All Blacks, on Saturday (4:45 AM of our country) , for the third date of the Personal Rugby Championship.

After the preparation days in Auckland and some tests, Mario Ledesma decided to make four changes in the team regarding the XV that defeated South Africa in Mendoza, a few weeks ago.

In the forwards, Santiago García Botta will enter instead of Juan Figallo who is already back in his club, Saracens. Tomás Lezana , on the other hand, will have his first match as a starter in the tournament, replacing Pablo Matera who will go to the bank.

Martín Landajo , who played his last game since the start, against Scotland in June, will return to wear the number 9 shirt that before the Boks used Gonzalo Bertranou. His reserve will be Tomás Cubelli and the Mendoza will have rest.

The remaining modification is the departure of Bautista Ezcurra who will be as substitute and his place in the center of the court will be occupied by Jerónimo de la Fuente , who played a few minutes in Mendoza but who was not from the start in the national team since 16 June, when he faced Wales in Santa Fe.

In the bank there will be three new faces: Juan Pablo Zeiss , Julián Montoya and Gastón Cortes . The man from Los Matreros still did not make his debut in Los Pumas, while the hooker from Newman who lost the start of the tournament due to an injury and is now recovered. For its part, the Cordoban pillar will be waiting for its first match in the Personal Rugby Championship and against Tier 1 teams.

http://lospumas.com.ar/2018/09/05/cuatro-cambios-xv/

[jegga]

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

Shit team in a shit location. lucky the Warriors are on

Do you mean Nelson or Trafalgar Park ?

[MN5]

@jegga said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

Shit team in a shit location. lucky the Warriors are on

Do you mean Nelson or Trafalgar Park ?

I assumed he meant Nelson, my old home town, so I got suitably triggered just in case.

[Nepia]

@stargazer Matera on the 'bank' - the Argies aren't even giving us the respect of playing their A team.

[jegga]

@mn5 said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

@jegga said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:

Shit team in a shit location. lucky the Warriors are on

Do you mean Nelson or Trafalgar Park ?

I assumed he meant Nelson, my old home town, so I got suitably triggered just in case.

I went down there for a canes game a couple years ago , apart from the result we had a good time at Trafalgar Park .Nelson’s a nice spot , good to see the provinces get ab games I doubt the pumas would sell out in one of the big cities.