All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@crucial everything you say is true, but none of it applies to that particular situation - he should have stayed out, the inside man was covered and he created them an overlap and hence a try. As I said previously I think a lot of the criticism is rubbish, but not that one.
Disagree.
You say 'should have' and that is analysis based on outcome rather than situation.
IMO there was a higher chance of the pass being disrupted and a turnover created than an overlap being used.
Argies pushed the pass and it worked out for them.
There is a big assumption from those criticising NMS' decision that he would have been able to tackle the opposite winger who would have taken the ball at speed and, as he showed, is evasive and strong. He made two other ABs look like complete numpties on his way to the line. It could have been three.@crucial said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
IMO there was a higher chance of the pass being disrupted and a turnover created than an overlap being used.
We have your opinion and what actually happened.
Argies pushed the pass and it worked out for them.
There is a big assumption from those criticising NMS' decision that he would have been able to tackle the opposite winger who would have taken the ball at speed and, as he showed, is evasive and strong. He made two other ABs look like complete numpties on his way to the line. It could have been three.It could have been 15. Holy fuck, these Argentinian wingers are unstoppable!
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@reprobate said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@crucial everything you say is true, but none of it applies to that particular situation - he should have stayed out, the inside man was covered and he created them an overlap and hence a try. As I said previously I think a lot of the criticism is rubbish, but not that one.
Disagree.
You say 'should have' and that is analysis based on outcome rather than situation.
IMO there was a higher chance of the pass being disrupted and a turnover created than an overlap being used.
Argies pushed the pass and it worked out for them.
There is a big assumption from those criticising NMS' decision that he would have been able to tackle the opposite winger who would have taken the ball at speed and, as he showed, is evasive and strong. He made two other ABs look like complete numpties on his way to the line. It could have been three.@crucial Could not disagree more. That was an awful piece of defending by NMS that a schoolboy coach would be livid with. The inside player was covered. You don't rush up and double team the ball carrier - that is some weird winger defending that you see in league a lot. You stay out on your man and use the sideline as your friend in defending and trust your inside defense (when it was 2 on 2 as it was). You don't create an overlap by coming in to tackle a guy that already has a defender on him.
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It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
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It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
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It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
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Planet
CrucialRugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.@bones And to think they ban trolls.
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Planet
CrucialRugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck. -
Planet
CrucialRugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck. -
It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
@rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
@rapido said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
It appears Argentina have eased their self-imposed restriction on European-based rugby players as of part way through this year.
Here is a link with Argentina's player depth.
If interested look under 'Exiles' for each position to see what players in Europe they can potentially call on.
http://www.americasrugbynews.com/players/player-pool-argentina/I'll stick to the ones I know.
LHP: Paz
THP: Figallo & Herrera
Lock: Galarza
No 8: Isa
Centre: Socino
Wing: Imhoff, CorderoThere are also be plenty of uncapped or low capped Argentinians in Top14 or Prem, Pro14 - some of whom are probably top class, but I don't know them.
Figallo is their best TH, then Herrera. Both world class. Massive gap to next ones (who specialise at getting airbourne against ABs!).
At LH, Roncero was superb, then Ayerza also first rate before retiring a couple of years ago. Since then, nothing. Don't know Paz.
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Argies being plundered for its props: https://www.americasrugbynews.com/2017/12/20/another-prop-departs-argentina-gigena-joins-leicester/
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finally got around to watching the highlights of last weekend. It's not exactly a NMS highlight reel is it? I know what he was trying to do with that first try, but he didn't have the footspeed to get there (and it was a terrible decision). And then watching him try to get to the corner? jesus, square wheels much?
Argies scored some pretty tries, loved the blind pop in to the hole.
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@siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?
Sometimes YouTube provides
Do you have any experience downloading linux distros?
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Planet
CrucialRugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.@bones said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Planet
CrucialRugby has selected NMS on the wing in the RC team of the week or some such. Well, fuck.I saw another site had NMS in thier team too, might have been espn rugby?
Surely we arent just being overly picky?
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finally got around to watching the highlights of last weekend. It's not exactly a NMS highlight reel is it? I know what he was trying to do with that first try, but he didn't have the footspeed to get there (and it was a terrible decision). And then watching him try to get to the corner? jesus, square wheels much?
Argies scored some pretty tries, loved the blind pop in to the hole.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
finally got around to watching the highlights of last weekend. It's not exactly a NMS highlight reel is it? I know what he was trying to do with that first try, but he didn't have the footspeed to get there (and it was a terrible decision). And then watching him try to get to the corner? jesus, square wheels much?
Argies scored some pretty tries, loved the blind pop in to the hole.
Remember last year when he got that intercept that 99% of test wingers would have easily turned into a try at the other end? It was embarrassing how easily he was mown down.
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@siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?
Sometimes YouTube provides
Do you have any experience downloading linux distros?
@antipodean thanks mate, but a big whoosh right over my head. Brain could only come up with "that friend of Charlie Brown?"
All good, as ever the thread commentary has painted a satisfactory picture
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@siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?
Sometimes YouTube provides
I have a halal version if that is ok?
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@siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?
Sometimes YouTube provides
I have a halal version if that is ok?
@billy-tell said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
@siam said in All Blacks v Argentina - Nelson:
Anyone found a kosher replay vid of this game ?
Sometimes YouTube provides
I have a halal version if that is ok?
Halal no?!
