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World rugby 15

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    I'm unsure why are so many people picking are Genia? He's only been good occasionally for a while now and often pretty average, even a slightly out of form Smith is more effective, regardless of the teams they play for.

    Actually I'm bemused that Smith is getting some crap on here - he's been pretty good in general, I think people are starting to take for granted the work he does in marshalling the team around the field and making the right play more often than from the ruck.

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    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

      @booboo said in World rugby 15:

      @yeahtheboys said in World rugby 15:

      1. Joe Moody
      2. Malcom Marx
      3. Tagdh Furlong
      4. BBBR
      5. Sam Whitelock
      6. David Pocock
      7. Sean Obrein
      8. Kieran Read
      9. Conor Murray
      10. Beauden Barrett
      11. Rieko Ioane
      12. Owen Farrell
      13. Kurtley Beale
      14. Ben Smith
      15. Israel Folau

      Reserves

      Creevy
      Vunipola
      Kepu
      Itoje
      Wyn Jones?
      Smith
      Sexton
      Dmac? (For world 15)

      Murray: one trick pony: good box kick. I'd lean towards Genia. Smith is not up to pre toilet standards yet.

      Smith: one trick pony: fast pass.

      Honestly, I know we hate the Irish style of rugby, but when it comes to controlling a game and slowly but surely strangling the life out of an opponent, even if you fall alseep watching, Murray and Sexton are up there with the best.

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      @billy-tell said in World rugby 15:

      Honestly, I know we hate the Irish style of rugby, but when it comes to controlling a game and slowly but surely strangling the life out of an opponent, even if you fall alseep watching, Murray and Sexton are up there with the best.

      Eh, no We all don’t hate...

      Your bias undies are showing again, BT. That guy who killed your cat has a lot to answer for. 😏

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      • D Derm McCrum

        Pfft

        Easy peasy

        15 Folau
        14 Thomas
        13 Ringrose
        12 O Farrell
        11 B Smith
        10 Sexton
        9 Genia
        8 Read
        7 Pocock
        6 POM
        5 Whitelock
        4 Retallick
        3 Furlong
        2 Creevy
        1 Moody

        16 Coles
        17 Healy
        18 Tui
        19 Ryan
        20 Nakawara
        21 A Smith
        22 Barrett
        23 E Daly

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        @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

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          @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

          @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

          Fair enough. Was trying to think of a solid utility 23 to cover off back injury options. Daly covers midfield, wing and FB.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

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            @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

            @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

            I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

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            • D Derm McCrum

              Pfft

              Easy peasy

              15 Folau
              14 Thomas
              13 Ringrose
              12 O Farrell
              11 B Smith
              10 Sexton
              9 Genia
              8 Read
              7 Pocock
              6 POM
              5 Whitelock
              4 Retallick
              3 Furlong
              2 Creevy
              1 Moody

              16 Coles
              17 Healy
              18 Tui
              19 Ryan
              20 Nakawara
              21 A Smith
              22 Barrett
              23 E Daly

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              Hooroo
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              @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

              Pfft

              Easy peasy

              15 Folau
              14 Thomas
              13 Ringrose
              12 O Farrell
              11 B Smith
              10 Sexton
              9 Genia
              8 Read
              7 Pocock
              6 POM
              5 Whitelock
              4 Retallick
              3 Furlong
              2 Creevy
              1 Moody

              16 Coles
              17 Healy
              18 Tui
              19 Ryan
              20 Nakawara
              21 A Smith
              22 Barrett
              23 E Daly

              For the fun of it, let's assume that teams plays the current AB team and we get to carbon copy the AB's in the team you selected.

              I Still think the Ab's would win

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                #25

                Quite a mature response to a world xv thread, everyone on here is getting old .......

                I agree that Retallick and Ioane are the two un-challenged best players in their positions in the world.

                Everyone else is worthy of argument, depending on styles of play and national bias etc.

                There are some seriously good players out there, from other countries, though who do have some serious flaws in the core roles though, who seem to watlz into many paper world XVs. Cough Scud Marx and Butterscrum Furlong.

                Marx looks like a seriously good player, but gee that 0-57 with him spraying lineout throws everywhere still puts an asterisk against his claims IMO.

                One thing that Marx really highlights for me though is the obsolete role of the specialist 7 turnover specialist, sorry Pocock.

                Hooker, IMO, is the second most important role on the field. I can't select a guy for my national team let alone a world XV that you can't rely on for 90 to 95% lineout accuracy.

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                • NepiaN Nepia

                  I'm unsure why are so many people picking are Genia? He's only been good occasionally for a while now and often pretty average, even a slightly out of form Smith is more effective, regardless of the teams they play for.

                  Actually I'm bemused that Smith is getting some crap on here - he's been pretty good in general, I think people are starting to take for granted the work he does in marshalling the team around the field and making the right play more often than from the ruck.

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                  @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                  I'm unsure why are so many people picking are Genia? He's only been good occasionally for a while now and often pretty average, even a slightly out of form Smith is more effective, regardless of the teams they play for.

                  Actually I'm bemused that Smith is getting some crap on here - he's been pretty good in general, I think people are starting to take for granted the work he does in marshalling the team around the field and making the right play more often than from the ruck.

                  Not sure why people are picking Folau in their teams, paid $2m+ so we have to pick him?
                  Rather have BFA at 15 any day of the week
                  Sure if you want a guy at 15 that can leap up and take a high ball, look spectacular running down the field causing the Ozzie comms to scream ‘FOLAU, ISRAEL FOLAU!!!’ Not create anything and score a meaningless try then he’s your man

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                  • VirgilV Virgil

                    @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                    I'm unsure why are so many people picking are Genia? He's only been good occasionally for a while now and often pretty average, even a slightly out of form Smith is more effective, regardless of the teams they play for.

                    Actually I'm bemused that Smith is getting some crap on here - he's been pretty good in general, I think people are starting to take for granted the work he does in marshalling the team around the field and making the right play more often than from the ruck.

                    Not sure why people are picking Folau in their teams, paid $2m+ so we have to pick him?
                    Rather have BFA at 15 any day of the week
                    Sure if you want a guy at 15 that can leap up and take a high ball, look spectacular running down the field causing the Ozzie comms to scream ‘FOLAU, ISRAEL FOLAU!!!’ Not create anything and score a meaningless try then he’s your man

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                    @virgil I reckon a back 3 of :

                    15 B Smith
                    14 I Folau
                    11 R Ioane

                    Would be fucking deadly. All of Folau's massive upside without being exposed by his equally significant down side.

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @virgil I reckon a back 3 of :

                      15 B Smith
                      14 I Folau
                      11 R Ioane

                      Would be fucking deadly. All of Folau's massive upside without being exposed by his equally significant down side.

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                      @mariner4life

                      Back three I would choose for the Abs if I could. Maria should have tried a bit fucking harder to get hubby to be a real patriot to her homeland.

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                        @mariner4life

                        Back three I would choose for the Abs if I could. Maria should have tried a bit fucking harder to get hubby to be a real patriot to her homeland.

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                        @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

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                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                          @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

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                          @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                          @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

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                            I am shocked, yes shocked, that no one has Parisse at no.8.

                            Doesn't every World XV? 🤣

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                              @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                              @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

                              alt text

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                              @mariner4life said in World rugby 15:

                              @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                              @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

                              alt text

                              That really is one of the best GIFs. Anytime someone posts it I can't stop watching

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                                I am shocked, yes shocked, that no one has Parisse at no.8.

                                Doesn't every World XV? 🤣

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                                @bovidae said in World rugby 15:

                                I am shocked, yes shocked, that no one has Parisse at no.8.

                                Doesn't every World XV? 🤣

                                I think he'll still be mentioned in World 15s even after he's retired.

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                                  @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                                  I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

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                                  @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                  @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                                  @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                                  I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                                  In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                                  PS who is this Rieko guy anyway?

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                                    @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                    @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                                    @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                                    I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                                    In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                                    PS who is this Rieko guy anyway?

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                                    @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                                    @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                    @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                                    @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                                    I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                                    In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                                    Sexton must be shitting himself worrying about having to run with the ball.

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                                      @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                      @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                                      @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                                      I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                                      In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                                      Sexton must be shitting himself worrying about having to run with the ball.

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                                      Derm McCrum
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                                      @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                      @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                                      @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                      @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                                      @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                                      I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                                      In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                                      Sexton must be shitting himself worrying about having to run with the ball.

                                      He’s used to that by now.

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                                      • D Derm McCrum

                                        @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                        @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                                        @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                        @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                                        @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                                        I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                                        In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                                        Sexton must be shitting himself worrying about having to run with the ball.

                                        He’s used to that by now.

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                                        @derm-mccrum shitting himself?

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                                          Don't see the point in Pocock when the rest of the forward pack are great at pilfering as well. He serves no purpose. Much rather have a ball runner or line out option. I'd want a pack that can absolutely destroy the opposition Crusaders style. Who is that Argie no. 8 who was making stupid metres against us?Damn I'm shocking with ethnic names.

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