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World rugby 15

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

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    @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

    @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

    I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

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    • D Derm McCrum

      Pfft

      Easy peasy

      15 Folau
      14 Thomas
      13 Ringrose
      12 O Farrell
      11 B Smith
      10 Sexton
      9 Genia
      8 Read
      7 Pocock
      6 POM
      5 Whitelock
      4 Retallick
      3 Furlong
      2 Creevy
      1 Moody

      16 Coles
      17 Healy
      18 Tui
      19 Ryan
      20 Nakawara
      21 A Smith
      22 Barrett
      23 E Daly

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      @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

      Pfft

      Easy peasy

      15 Folau
      14 Thomas
      13 Ringrose
      12 O Farrell
      11 B Smith
      10 Sexton
      9 Genia
      8 Read
      7 Pocock
      6 POM
      5 Whitelock
      4 Retallick
      3 Furlong
      2 Creevy
      1 Moody

      16 Coles
      17 Healy
      18 Tui
      19 Ryan
      20 Nakawara
      21 A Smith
      22 Barrett
      23 E Daly

      For the fun of it, let's assume that teams plays the current AB team and we get to carbon copy the AB's in the team you selected.

      I Still think the Ab's would win

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        Quite a mature response to a world xv thread, everyone on here is getting old .......

        I agree that Retallick and Ioane are the two un-challenged best players in their positions in the world.

        Everyone else is worthy of argument, depending on styles of play and national bias etc.

        There are some seriously good players out there, from other countries, though who do have some serious flaws in the core roles though, who seem to watlz into many paper world XVs. Cough Scud Marx and Butterscrum Furlong.

        Marx looks like a seriously good player, but gee that 0-57 with him spraying lineout throws everywhere still puts an asterisk against his claims IMO.

        One thing that Marx really highlights for me though is the obsolete role of the specialist 7 turnover specialist, sorry Pocock.

        Hooker, IMO, is the second most important role on the field. I can't select a guy for my national team let alone a world XV that you can't rely on for 90 to 95% lineout accuracy.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          I'm unsure why are so many people picking are Genia? He's only been good occasionally for a while now and often pretty average, even a slightly out of form Smith is more effective, regardless of the teams they play for.

          Actually I'm bemused that Smith is getting some crap on here - he's been pretty good in general, I think people are starting to take for granted the work he does in marshalling the team around the field and making the right play more often than from the ruck.

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          @nepia said in World rugby 15:

          I'm unsure why are so many people picking are Genia? He's only been good occasionally for a while now and often pretty average, even a slightly out of form Smith is more effective, regardless of the teams they play for.

          Actually I'm bemused that Smith is getting some crap on here - he's been pretty good in general, I think people are starting to take for granted the work he does in marshalling the team around the field and making the right play more often than from the ruck.

          Not sure why people are picking Folau in their teams, paid $2m+ so we have to pick him?
          Rather have BFA at 15 any day of the week
          Sure if you want a guy at 15 that can leap up and take a high ball, look spectacular running down the field causing the Ozzie comms to scream ‘FOLAU, ISRAEL FOLAU!!!’ Not create anything and score a meaningless try then he’s your man

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          • VirgilV Virgil

            @nepia said in World rugby 15:

            I'm unsure why are so many people picking are Genia? He's only been good occasionally for a while now and often pretty average, even a slightly out of form Smith is more effective, regardless of the teams they play for.

            Actually I'm bemused that Smith is getting some crap on here - he's been pretty good in general, I think people are starting to take for granted the work he does in marshalling the team around the field and making the right play more often than from the ruck.

            Not sure why people are picking Folau in their teams, paid $2m+ so we have to pick him?
            Rather have BFA at 15 any day of the week
            Sure if you want a guy at 15 that can leap up and take a high ball, look spectacular running down the field causing the Ozzie comms to scream ‘FOLAU, ISRAEL FOLAU!!!’ Not create anything and score a meaningless try then he’s your man

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            @virgil I reckon a back 3 of :

            15 B Smith
            14 I Folau
            11 R Ioane

            Would be fucking deadly. All of Folau's massive upside without being exposed by his equally significant down side.

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @virgil I reckon a back 3 of :

              15 B Smith
              14 I Folau
              11 R Ioane

              Would be fucking deadly. All of Folau's massive upside without being exposed by his equally significant down side.

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              @mariner4life

              Back three I would choose for the Abs if I could. Maria should have tried a bit fucking harder to get hubby to be a real patriot to her homeland.

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                @mariner4life

                Back three I would choose for the Abs if I could. Maria should have tried a bit fucking harder to get hubby to be a real patriot to her homeland.

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                @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

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                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                  @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

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                  @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                  @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

                  alt text

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                    I am shocked, yes shocked, that no one has Parisse at no.8.

                    Doesn't every World XV? 🤣

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                      @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

                      alt text

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                      @mariner4life said in World rugby 15:

                      @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                      @gt12 probably didn't wanna be stuck playing at 12 for the Blues....

                      alt text

                      That really is one of the best GIFs. Anytime someone posts it I can't stop watching

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                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                        I am shocked, yes shocked, that no one has Parisse at no.8.

                        Doesn't every World XV? 🤣

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                        @bovidae said in World rugby 15:

                        I am shocked, yes shocked, that no one has Parisse at no.8.

                        Doesn't every World XV? 🤣

                        I think he'll still be mentioned in World 15s even after he's retired.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                          @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                          I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

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                          @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                          @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                          @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                          I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                          In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                          PS who is this Rieko guy anyway?

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                          • D Derm McCrum

                            @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                            @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                            @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                            I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                            In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                            PS who is this Rieko guy anyway?

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                            @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                            @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                            @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                            @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                            I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                            In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                            Sexton must be shitting himself worrying about having to run with the ball.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                              @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                              @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                              @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                              I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                              In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                              Sexton must be shitting himself worrying about having to run with the ball.

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                              @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                              @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                              @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                              @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                              @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                              I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                              In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                              Sexton must be shitting himself worrying about having to run with the ball.

                              He’s used to that by now.

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                              • D Derm McCrum

                                @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                                @nepia said in World rugby 15:

                                @kiwimurph said in World rugby 15:

                                @derm-mccrum No Rieko in the 23 at all? At the very least I'd suggest Rieko would make the 23 jersey as Barrett and Ben Smith can cover fullback.

                                I'd suggest that Reiko would make the 11 jersey considering he's the premier wing in the world and as far as I know Ben Smith has never played on the left?

                                In MY team, I expect players to try things they’ve never done before...

                                Sexton must be shitting himself worrying about having to run with the ball.

                                He’s used to that by now.

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                                @derm-mccrum shitting himself?

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                                  Don't see the point in Pocock when the rest of the forward pack are great at pilfering as well. He serves no purpose. Much rather have a ball runner or line out option. I'd want a pack that can absolutely destroy the opposition Crusaders style. Who is that Argie no. 8 who was making stupid metres against us?Damn I'm shocking with ethnic names.

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                                  • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                    Don't see the point in Pocock when the rest of the forward pack are great at pilfering as well. He serves no purpose. Much rather have a ball runner or line out option. I'd want a pack that can absolutely destroy the opposition Crusaders style. Who is that Argie no. 8 who was making stupid metres against us?Damn I'm shocking with ethnic names.

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                                    @rancid-schnitzel said in World rugby 15:

                                    Damn I'm shocking with ethnic names

                                    typical Australian

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                                      Form based on last 12 months. Presumes everyone's fit - I wouldn't know .

                                      15 - BFA
                                      14 - Boffelli
                                      13 - Davies
                                      12 - Farrell
                                      11 - Ioane
                                      10 - GoldenBalls
                                      9 - After David
                                      8 - Read
                                      7 - Cane
                                      6 - POM
                                      5 - Whitelock
                                      4 - POTY 2018
                                      3 - Furlong
                                      2 - Marx
                                      1 - Moody

                                      23 - ALB
                                      22 - DMac
                                      21 - Genia
                                      20 - Leguizamon
                                      19 - Etzebeth
                                      18 -
                                      17 -
                                      16 - Taylor

                                      Pick your own reserve props, my team would beat all comers.

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                                      • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

                                        Don't see the point in Pocock when the rest of the forward pack are great at pilfering as well. He serves no purpose. Much rather have a ball runner or line out option. I'd want a pack that can absolutely destroy the opposition Crusaders style. Who is that Argie no. 8 who was making stupid metres against us?Damn I'm shocking with ethnic names.

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                                        @rancid-schnitzel said in World rugby 15:

                                        Don't see the point in Pocock when the rest of the forward pack are great at pilfering as well. He serves no purpose. Much rather have a ball runner or line out option. I'd want a pack that can absolutely destroy the opposition Crusaders style. Who is that Argie no. 8 who was making stupid metres against us?Damn I'm shocking with ethnic names.

                                        Louis Picamoles?

                                        Aw hang on he's French......

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                                          @billy-tell said in World rugby 15:

                                          Honestly, I know we hate the Irish style of rugby, but when it comes to controlling a game and slowly but surely strangling the life out of an opponent, even if you fall alseep watching, Murray and Sexton are up there with the best.

                                          Eh, no We all don’t hate...

                                          Your bias undies are showing again, BT. That guy who killed your cat has a lot to answer for. 😏

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                                          @derm-mccrum said in World rugby 15:

                                          @billy-tell said in World rugby 15:

                                          Honestly, I know we hate the Irish style of rugby, but when it comes to controlling a game and slowly but surely strangling the life out of an opponent, even if you fall alseep watching, Murray and Sexton are up there with the best.

                                          Eh, no We all don’t hate...

                                          Your bias undies are showing again, BT. That guy who killed your cat has a lot to answer for. 😏

                                          Actually I don't hate the style, so you're correct. I appreciate it for what it's worth - making Ireland a very good rugby side, 2nd in the world rankings, and difficult to beat.

                                          The NZ public, including myself, would not to be too enamoured if Hansen tried to foist that type of game plan on NZ - it's basically a variant of the Springbok 2007 RWC-winning recipe. If Conor Murray is indeed absent in November, I don't see your pick of McGrath/Cooney/Marmion having the requisite control to implement it to such a high level.

                                          At the end of the day, any Irish fan, including yourself, will happily take a 1 pt victory in Dublin, I very much doubt the manner in which it's achieved would be a major concern.

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