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2018 November Internationals

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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @nepia said in 2018 November Internationals:

    ould pull in - some Baabaas squads in the past have basically been the Lions.

    think they always included an uncapped player as a tradition.

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    @taniwharugby said in 2018 November Internationals:

    @nepia said in 2018 November Internationals:

    ould pull in - some Baabaas squads in the past have basically been the Lions.

    think they always included an uncapped player as a tradition.

    Yep, I think that's been the one nailed on tradition.

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      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12167841

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        Was directly a result of the fallout from Benjamin Fall incident. Gardner didn’t want to penalise Farrell, SA win the match, then Gosper tweet that the decision was wrong.

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          Nice Russian try.

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          • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

            Nice Russian try.

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            @daffy-jaffy kicking the ball too much is All Blacks style now 😞

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            • BonesB Bones

              @daffy-jaffy kicking the ball too much is All Blacks style now 😞

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              @bones said in 2018 November Internationals:

              @daffy-jaffy kicking the ball too much is All Blacks style now 😞

              We have been kicking the ball a lot for some years now. Just the reasons why have changed.
              Previously it was to back our defence to create a turnover/spilled ball, then use our transition to attack to smash an unorganised defence. (opposition have now realised that they just need to work on ball security and not do much after this and they will win the possession and territory stats)
              Now it is to try and break up the rush/flat defence. If you can keep putting the ball into contestable areas the defence has to keep reorganising to get behind it and are more wary of committing too hard. Trick is to make those kicks/stabs to space 50/50 contests at worst.

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                Wyatt Crockett to captain the Barbarians in his last ever game of Rugby Union:

                https://www.planetrugby.com/news/wyatt-crockett-captains-bok-heavy-barbarians/

                Former New Zealand prop Wyatt Crockett will captain the Barbarians against Argentina in the Killik Cup match at Twickenham on Saturday.

                The prop is a World Cup winner with 71 Tests behind him and the most-capped player in Super Rugby history after making 202 appearances for the Crusaders.

                He leads a starting line-up that includes eight South African internationals and the famous invitation club’s squad includes representatives from eight countries in all.

                Chiefs full-back Jack Debreczeni — the traditional uncapped player in the starting side — lines up at full-back with Tommaso Benvenuti (Italy), Tom English (Australia) and Leon Fukofuka (Tonga) joining three Springboks in the backline.

                Crockett, Luke Jones (Australia) and Juan Manuel Leguizamon (Argentina) are part of a formidable forward contingent including South Africa‘s captain Siya Kolisi.

                The squad was augmented on Wednesday by the arrival of Cardiff Blues tighthead Anton Peikrishvili. The Georgia prop is on the bench instead of France‘s Alexandre Menini, who has been recalled by Lyon.

                The Barbarians are taking on Argentina for the third time in their 128-year history.

                The Pumas were beaten 34-22 at Cardiff 1990 but won the 2015 rematch 49-31. Lood de Jager is the sole survivor from the Baa-baas side that day.

                Barbarians: 15 Jack Debreczeni, 14 Tommaso Benvenuti, 13 Tom English, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Leon Fukofuka, 8 Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Luke Jones, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Schalk Brits, 1 Wyatt Crockett (c)
                Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Anton Peikrishvili, 19 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 20 Jordan Taufua, 21 Frank Lomani, 22 Jesse Kriel, 23 Elton Jantjies

                Date: Saturday, December 1
                Venue: Twickenham
                Kick-off: 14:30 GMT
                Referee: John Lacey (Ireland)

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                  List of Argentinians who've played for the Baabaas on the Pumas' website, including current coach Mario Ledesma:

                  Diego Albanese, Matías Alemanno, Lisandro Arbizu, Manuel Carizza, Santiago Cordero, Felipe Contepomi, Luis Criscuolo, Tomás Cubelli, Tomás De Vedia, Matías Díaz, Genaro Fessia, Fabio Gómez, Eusebio Guinazú, Juan Martín Hernández, Martín Landajo, Mario Ledesma, Juan Manuel Leguizamón, Nahuel Lobo, Rolando Martin, Pablo Matera, Federico Méndez, Santiago Phelan, Agustín Pichot, Sebastián Salvat, FWC Sawyer, Eduardo Simone, Martín Scelzo, Pedro Sporleder, Mauricio Reggiardo, Guillermo Roan, Enrique Rodríguez, Rodrigo Roncero, Roberto Tejerizo, Joaquín Tuculet y Gonzalo Quesada.

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    Wyatt Crockett to captain the Barbarians in his last ever game of Rugby Union:

                    https://www.planetrugby.com/news/wyatt-crockett-captains-bok-heavy-barbarians/

                    Former New Zealand prop Wyatt Crockett will captain the Barbarians against Argentina in the Killik Cup match at Twickenham on Saturday.

                    The prop is a World Cup winner with 71 Tests behind him and the most-capped player in Super Rugby history after making 202 appearances for the Crusaders.

                    He leads a starting line-up that includes eight South African internationals and the famous invitation club’s squad includes representatives from eight countries in all.

                    Chiefs full-back Jack Debreczeni — the traditional uncapped player in the starting side — lines up at full-back with Tommaso Benvenuti (Italy), Tom English (Australia) and Leon Fukofuka (Tonga) joining three Springboks in the backline.

                    Crockett, Luke Jones (Australia) and Juan Manuel Leguizamon (Argentina) are part of a formidable forward contingent including South Africa‘s captain Siya Kolisi.

                    The squad was augmented on Wednesday by the arrival of Cardiff Blues tighthead Anton Peikrishvili. The Georgia prop is on the bench instead of France‘s Alexandre Menini, who has been recalled by Lyon.

                    The Barbarians are taking on Argentina for the third time in their 128-year history.

                    The Pumas were beaten 34-22 at Cardiff 1990 but won the 2015 rematch 49-31. Lood de Jager is the sole survivor from the Baa-baas side that day.

                    Barbarians: 15 Jack Debreczeni, 14 Tommaso Benvenuti, 13 Tom English, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Aphiwe Dyantyi, 10 Handre Pollard, 9 Leon Fukofuka, 8 Juan Manuel Leguizamon, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Siya Kolisi, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Luke Jones, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Schalk Brits, 1 Wyatt Crockett (c)
                    Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Anton Peikrishvili, 19 Sikhumbuzo Notshe, 20 Jordan Taufua, 21 Frank Lomani, 22 Jesse Kriel, 23 Elton Jantjies

                    Date: Saturday, December 1
                    Venue: Twickenham
                    Kick-off: 14:30 GMT
                    Referee: John Lacey (Ireland)

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                    @sparky Is it really Crockett's last game of rugby though? He signed a two-year contract with Ta$man earlier this year, so that suggests he'll still play Mitre 10 Cup in 2019, unless he's changed his mind.

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                      Cool. I see Jordan Taufua is in the squad.
                      I still have a soft spot for him even though he went to the dark side.
                      Has had shit luck with injuries too and probably would have worn black this year

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                        not one current ab

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                        • CrucialC Crucial

                          @bones said in 2018 November Internationals:

                          @daffy-jaffy kicking the ball too much is All Blacks style now 😞

                          We have been kicking the ball a lot for some years now. Just the reasons why have changed.
                          Previously it was to back our defence to create a turnover/spilled ball, then use our transition to attack to smash an unorganised defence. (opposition have now realised that they just need to work on ball security and not do much after this and they will win the possession and territory stats)
                          Now it is to try and break up the rush/flat defence. If you can keep putting the ball into contestable areas the defence has to keep reorganising to get behind it and are more wary of committing too hard. Trick is to make those kicks/stabs to space 50/50 contests at worst.

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                          @crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:

                          We have been kickng the ball alot for years now. Just the reasons why have changed.

                          not only that, the accuracy of the kick isnt there, nor is the chase, even from Bender who was always so good at the chase, so the tactic appears to be kick away and trust defence, rather than kick, contest and then defend if we dont get it back.

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                            https://twitter.com/lospumas/status/1068115261935575040

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                              Leguizamón has scored the first try of the game against his own country. 7 - 0 Baabaas

                              Entertaining first few minutes.

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                                Orlando scores in the corner. 7 all after 10 minutes.

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                                  Two quick tries to the Argies. First Moyano, then Matera.

                                  21 - 7 Pumas

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                                    As could be expected, the Baabaas defence looks quite disorganised. Cancelliere scores the next Argie try.

                                    28 - 7 Pumas

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                                      Man, why do we have to listen to this whiny commentator? Couldn't they find a better one for this game?

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                                        Penalty try to the Baabaas. The Argie 6 collapsed the driving maul. Glad he didn't get a card, too.

                                        28 - 14 Pumas

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                                          Half time: Baabaas 14 - 28 Pumas

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