2018 November Internationals
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@rapido said in 2018 November Internationals:
I think Clive's living in the past on this one, I'm not a fan of rugby being a 23 man game either, but it currently is.
Yep.
What he's not talking about is a good but tired player coming up against a fresh player who is almost as good (or in some cases, different). After 70 minutes you can lose speed, fall off tackles, etc -- and then it's easy to write about how you can't flog the players.
Clive's living in the past generally I think on this one
@nzzp said in 2018 November Internationals:
@rapido said in 2018 November Internationals:
I think Clive's living in the past on this one, I'm not a fan of rugby being a 23 man game either, but it currently is.
Yep.
What he's not talking about is a good but tired player coming up against a fresh player who is almost as good (or in some cases, different). After 70 minutes you can lose speed, fall off tackles, etc -- and then it's easy to write about how you can't flog the players.
Clive's living in the past generally I think on this one
Also: it's OK for a week, but what happens in weeks 2 or 3 when you need them to play the 80, and they are backing up full game after full game. The legs get tired, players get jaded, etc...
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@rapido said in 2018 November Internationals:
I think Clive's living in the past on this one, I'm not a fan of rugby being a 23 man game either, but it currently is.
Yep.
What he's not talking about is a good but tired player coming up against a fresh player who is almost as good (or in some cases, different). After 70 minutes you can lose speed, fall off tackles, etc -- and then it's easy to write about how you can't flog the players.
Clive's living in the past generally I think on this one
@nzzp said in 2018 November Internationals:
@rapido said in 2018 November Internationals:
I think Clive's living in the past on this one, I'm not a fan of rugby being a 23 man game either, but it currently is.
Yep.
What he's not talking about is a good but tired player coming up against a fresh player who is almost as good (or in some cases, different). After 70 minutes you can lose speed, fall off tackles, etc -- and then it's easy to write about how you can't flog the players.
Clive's living in the past generally I think on this one
well durrrr, Clive's opinions on rugby end late-2003. As far as he is concerned, that was the pinnacle of rugby right there, and it's been downhill ever since.
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The Japan v All Blacks test on 3 November will be livestreamed on https://allblackstv.com/ .
The free streaming of the Test covers 159 countries and territories in Asia (except Japan), Europe (except France), United Kingdom, parts of Africa, North, Central and South America and the Pacific (except Australia and New Zealand).The official announcement contains a list of countries where the stream will be available.
By the way, the All Blacks tv site is not only showing a link to the All Blacks v Japan test, but also to the Chile v Māori All Blacks game on 18 November.
http://allblacks.com/News/23739/all-blacks-japan-test-to-be-streamed-online-internationally
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England have narrowed their training squad in Portugal down to 25. No place for Mike Brown, but four Kiwi Poms (Dylan Hartley, Zach Mercer, Brad Shields and Ben Te'o) and an Aussie Pom (Alec Hepburn) make the cut.
Forwards: Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Charlie Ewels (Bath Rugby), Jamie George (Saracens), Dylan Hartley (Northampton Saints) co-captain, Alec Hepburn (Exeter Chiefs), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Zach Mercer (Bath Rugby), Ben Moon (Exeter Chiefs), Brad Shields (Wasps), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Elliott Stooke (Bath Rugby), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)
Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Danny Care (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens) co-captain, George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Ben Te’o (Worcester Warriors), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers
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@sparky said in 2018 November Internationals:
@crucial Yeah, but Maro Itoje is stil there.....
I didn't say it had died out altogether!
There's something about Farrell that gets to me as well. I can never pinpoint it.
Mind you, if Ashton gets to do one of his dorky swan dives...... -
@sparky said in 2018 November Internationals:
20 year-old Tom Curry's the only player there remotely like an Openside Flanker.
Yep, all the others are basically 6s. Yeah Mercer has played a lot of 8 but not so much at senior level and he's not been tearing the place up. Wilson has been solid and has a bit of dog about him. Shields has done sweet FA in the UK and hardly shone in SA during the summer. We've left our best available 8 (Morgan) and 7 (Underhill) out altogether. Curry aside we've gone for biggish, slowish munters. Oh and we've been mullered at the breakdown for a season and a half.
Fuck. Just, fuck.
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So, will it be Ford/Farrell or Farrell/12/Tuilagi
No way Tuilagi is not turning out at 13. Eddie has been dying to have him back.
A lot of love in the press for a Farrell/Slade/Tuilagi.
@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
So, will it be Ford/Farrell or Farrell/12/Tuilagi
No way Tuilagi is not turning out at 13. Eddie has been dying to have him back.
A lot of love in the press for a Farrell/Slade/Tuilagi.
Farrell, Te'O, Tuilagi
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This may be useful to know for some Ferners:
https://twitter.com/PremierSportsTV/status/1057346399967166464
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@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
So, will it be Ford/Farrell or Farrell/12/Tuilagi
No way Tuilagi is not turning out at 13. Eddie has been dying to have him back.
A lot of love in the press for a Farrell/Slade/Tuilagi.
Farrell, Te'O, Tuilagi
@mikethesnow said in 2018 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
So, will it be Ford/Farrell or Farrell/12/Tuilagi
No way Tuilagi is not turning out at 13. Eddie has been dying to have him back.
A lot of love in the press for a Farrell/Slade/Tuilagi.
Farrell, Te'O, Tuilagi
Hopefully not. Put Slade in at 12, he's got a very good cut out pass which will be the only way the wingers will see the ball if Tuilagi is at 13...
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@mikethesnow said in 2018 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
So, will it be Ford/Farrell or Farrell/12/Tuilagi
No way Tuilagi is not turning out at 13. Eddie has been dying to have him back.
A lot of love in the press for a Farrell/Slade/Tuilagi.
Farrell, Te'O, Tuilagi
Hopefully not. Put Slade in at 12, he's got a very good cut out pass which will be the only way the wingers will see the ball if Tuilagi is at 13...
@catogrande said in 2018 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2018 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
So, will it be Ford/Farrell or Farrell/12/Tuilagi
No way Tuilagi is not turning out at 13. Eddie has been dying to have him back.
A lot of love in the press for a Farrell/Slade/Tuilagi.
Farrell, Te'O, Tuilagi
Hopefully not. Put Slade in at 12, he's got a very good cut out pass which will be the only way the wingers will see the ball if Tuilagi is at 13...
Eddie playing the percentages
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@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
No Mike Brown?
That takes the hateability factor down a notch.
I'm guessing that means we get to see Ashton at fullback. This could be hilarious, can't wait.
@bones said in 2018 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
No Mike Brown?
That takes the hateability factor down a notch.
I'm guessing that means we get to see Ashton at fullback. This could be hilarious, can't wait.
Daly
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@catogrande said in 2018 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2018 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
So, will it be Ford/Farrell or Farrell/12/Tuilagi
No way Tuilagi is not turning out at 13. Eddie has been dying to have him back.
A lot of love in the press for a Farrell/Slade/Tuilagi.
Farrell, Te'O, Tuilagi
Hopefully not. Put Slade in at 12, he's got a very good cut out pass which will be the only way the wingers will see the ball if Tuilagi is at 13...
Eddie playing the percentages
@mikethesnow said in 2018 November Internationals:
@catogrande said in 2018 November Internationals:
@mikethesnow said in 2018 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
So, will it be Ford/Farrell or Farrell/12/Tuilagi
No way Tuilagi is not turning out at 13. Eddie has been dying to have him back.
A lot of love in the press for a Farrell/Slade/Tuilagi.
Farrell, Te'O, Tuilagi
Hopefully not. Put Slade in at 12, he's got a very good cut out pass which will be the only way the wingers will see the ball if Tuilagi is at 13...
Eddie playing the percentages
I used to find that sort of comment funny.
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@bones said in 2018 November Internationals:
@crucial said in 2018 November Internationals:
No Mike Brown?
That takes the hateability factor down a notch.
I'm guessing that means we get to see Ashton at fullback. This could be hilarious, can't wait.
Daly
@mikethesnow Jack Nowell can also play fullback but Elliott Daly is the more likely bet.
England's backline strategy looks to be powerful guys in the midfield, fast men outside them.
