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2019 under 20's

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  • mofitzy_M Offline
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    #482

    I feel bad calling out players who are still teens but there were a few duds in that side and no stars I could see.

    Philpott says "The major measure of this team is not 'winning a world championship'. And I know that sounds a bit odd, but the key measure is actually the conversion rate into Super Rugby and the All Blacks." That's all well and good Craig, but it isn't a coincidence the winning sides tend to produce ABs in abundance.

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      22-10. NZ needs a converted try minimum or they will be playing for 5th.

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      @mofitzy_ so, you say score was 21-10, NZ score then SA get a penalty and score becomes 25-17...4 point penalties 😉

      Sounds like we were simply outmuscled and out thought by a bigger team.

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      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

        @mofitzy_ so, you say score was 21-10, NZ score then SA get a penalty and score becomes 25-17...4 point penalties 😉

        Sounds like we were simply outmuscled and out thought by a bigger team.

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        #484

        @taniwharugby
        Should have been 22 to 25...you got me.

        Yes we were outmuscled by SA but it was worse than that, there were bad decisions, poor skills, and lazy body language/poor communication.

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          Just heard on the radio, NZ were turning down kicks at goal...Maths obviously was not a strong point with some of these kids, you would think they would have known exactly what was required to progress..
          On saying all that, are we that surprised...?

          Just on the spark ,I bought Sparks coverage of RWC at the cheap price as back just in case TVNZs live coverage of all games fall over..!,it’s a bit of joke on my part, but watch that space ..!

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            We've said from the beginning: Philpott is a shit coach and doesn't know how to select the best possible team. If you leave better players - with Mitre 10 Cup experience - at home, you can't expect anything better. Add to that the attitude that it isn't about winning, and your fate is sealed. I agree, the coach has to go, but will NZR have the guts to let him go?

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              Just heard on the radio, NZ were turning down kicks at goal...Maths obviously was not a strong point with some of these kids, you would think they would have known exactly what was required to progress..
              On saying all that, are we that surprised...?

              Just on the spark ,I bought Sparks coverage of RWC at the cheap price as back just in case TVNZs live coverage of all games fall over..!,it’s a bit of joke on my part, but watch that space ..!

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              #487

              @Steven-Harris Burke isn't a very good goal kicker anyway. That's another reason why they needed Toala.

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                South Africans on twitter are complaining that Finau wasn't carded here.

                https://twitter.com/bchanakira2/status/1138907885352693765

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                  All those players on the extended bench who didn't get a run get to avoid any blame!

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                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                    South Africans on twitter are complaining that Finau wasn't carded here.

                    https://twitter.com/bchanakira2/status/1138907885352693765

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                    #490

                    @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                    South Africans on twitter are complaining that Finau wasn't carded here.

                    https://twitter.com/bchanakira2/status/1138907885352693765

                    Based on how the tournament has been reffed, I was surprised it wasn't a yellow but I don't think he actually connected with the head, it just glanced off his upper shoulder and looked bad because of the whiplash.

                    Playing with fire hitting anywhere near the upper shoulder these days.

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                    • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                      @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                      South Africans on twitter are complaining that Finau wasn't carded here.

                      https://twitter.com/bchanakira2/status/1138907885352693765

                      Based on how the tournament has been reffed, I was surprised it wasn't a yellow but I don't think he actually connected with the head, it just glanced off his upper shoulder and looked bad because of the whiplash.

                      Playing with fire hitting anywhere near the upper shoulder these days.

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                      @mofitzy_ one of those ones where if he was YC'd he should have zero to complain about (probably should have been though), but also one where you need to look at it in the context of player height and he is dropping too...sometimes it isnt easy for the tackler to adjust his height line once committed.

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                      • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                        3rd yellow card for SA and penalty try NZ. 19-10.

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                        #492

                        @mofitzy_ said in 2019 under 20's:

                        3rd yellow card for SA and penalty try NZ. 19-10.

                        SA got 3 cards and they still lost?

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                          @mofitzy_ said in 2019 under 20's:

                          3rd yellow card for SA and penalty try NZ. 19-10.

                          SA got 3 cards and they still lost?

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                          @Dice
                          Yes, and at least one was their most physical forward. NZ were playing with no energy or initiative most times, and when they did they would make a bad decision or a handling error.

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                            For who missed the game and still want to watch it, this is the link to the full match video: https://www.sparksport.co.nz/match/9516b311-7d8b-4dae-92e8-5f86a8588696?fbclid=IwAR30EXFzQ9LuYiFiN1S5E6vqXDtwnfYu_9GVZiFhFVMv9kxZgMy6Sf9EBps

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                              Coach would surely go after 3 years anyway. Win, lose or draw.

                              In fact it's a waste to waste 3 years of tournament experience on the same guy. Should be a pathway for coaches just (currently) below SR level.

                              Sign of the times maybe? No coaches left in the country.

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                                Also, i just dont like this sport anymore. Its card crazy and the fans have quickly adopted to card-braying ickiness.

                                I'm watching out of habit, not love.

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                                  South Africans on twitter are complaining that Finau wasn't carded here.

                                  https://twitter.com/bchanakira2/status/1138907885352693765

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                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                                  South Africans on twitter are complaining

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                                    Mark Hammett probably in line for the job down the line he is NZ schoolboy's coach for 2019

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                                      Thoughts on the Red Card in the Aus/Eng game? First up in this highlight package below, happened in the 3rd minute...

                                      https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1138924449015771137

                                      If this is the way the game is being refereed now, the World Cup could be an absolute debacle.

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                                      • barbarianB barbarian

                                        Thoughts on the Red Card in the Aus/Eng game? First up in this highlight package below, happened in the 3rd minute...

                                        https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1138924449015771137

                                        If this is the way the game is being refereed now, the World Cup could be an absolute debacle.

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                                        #500

                                        @barbarian IMO def Yellow.

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                                        • barbarianB barbarian

                                          Thoughts on the Red Card in the Aus/Eng game? First up in this highlight package below, happened in the 3rd minute...

                                          https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1138924449015771137

                                          If this is the way the game is being refereed now, the World Cup could be an absolute debacle.

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                                          @barbarian said in 2019 under 20's:

                                          Thoughts on the Red Card in the Aus/Eng game? First up in this highlight package below, happened in the 3rd minute...

                                          https://twitter.com/WorldRugby/status/1138924449015771137

                                          If this is the way the game is being refereed now, the World Cup could be an absolute debacle.

                                          I think it's a red card. It's very similar to the shoulder charge (against his opponent's throat) for which Fifita was red carded in the Sharks v Hurricanes game.

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