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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    Good hand with the bat by Somerville.

    That top order Raval/Taylor/Nicholls collapse could easily cost us the series. Another hundred runs from those guys and we'd be in a commanding position.

    Given the way the Windies have slumped in world cricket - especially, in my view, as technology, facilities and basically money have talked louder over the past 30 years - Pakistan has done very well to remain a competitive force.

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    • boobooB booboo

      @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

      Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

      Fuck we loves Boulter!

      About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

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      canefan
      wrote on last edited by
      #309

      @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

      @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

      Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

      Fuck we loves Boulter!

      About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

      No Wagner? Boooooooo!

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      • canefanC canefan

        @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

        @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

        Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

        Fuck we loves Boulter!

        About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

        No Wagner? Boooooooo!

        mariner4lifeM Offline
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        mariner4life
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        #310

        @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

        @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

        @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

        Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

        Fuck we loves Boulter!

        About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

        No Wagner? Boooooooo!

        Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

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        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

          @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

          @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

          @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

          Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

          Fuck we loves Boulter!

          About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

          No Wagner? Boooooooo!

          Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

          canefanC Offline
          canefanC Offline
          canefan
          wrote on last edited by
          #311

          @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

          @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

          @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

          @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

          Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

          Fuck we loves Boulter!

          About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

          No Wagner? Boooooooo!

          Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

          There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

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          • canefanC canefan

            @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

            Fuck we loves Boulter!

            About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

            No Wagner? Boooooooo!

            Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

            There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

            mariner4lifeM Offline
            mariner4lifeM Offline
            mariner4life
            wrote on last edited by
            #312

            @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

            Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

            Fuck we loves Boulter!

            About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

            No Wagner? Boooooooo!

            Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

            There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

            look, i get it, we all love a battler, but Southee over Wagner in the 3rd test of a series played on dead pitches does kind of make sense.

            (i would have played him over Colin).

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

              Fuck we loves Boulter!

              About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

              No Wagner? Boooooooo!

              Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

              There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

              look, i get it, we all love a battler, but Southee over Wagner in the 3rd test of a series played on dead pitches does kind of make sense.

              (i would have played him over Colin).

              canefanC Offline
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              canefan
              wrote on last edited by canefan
              #313

              @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

              Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

              Fuck we loves Boulter!

              About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

              No Wagner? Boooooooo!

              Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

              There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

              look, i get it, we all love a battler, but Southee over Wagner in the 3rd test of a series played on dead pitches does kind of make sense.

              (i would have played him over Colin).

              CDG will probably play a star hand now you said that but I agree. Wagner over Colin. When things are stagnant you need a guy who can stir things up

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              • BovidaeB Offline
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                Bovidae
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                #314

                Did anyone watch much of the last 2 sessions?

                I saw Somerville's first 2 overs and called it a night. There was some turn there. Looking at the scorecard both spinners were economical but did they look like getting any wickets?

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  Did anyone watch much of the last 2 sessions?

                  I saw Somerville's first 2 overs and called it a night. There was some turn there. Looking at the scorecard both spinners were economical but did they look like getting any wickets?

                  canefanC Offline
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                  canefan
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #315

                  @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                  Did anyone watch much of the last 2 sessions?

                  I saw Somerville's first 2 overs and called it a night. There was some turn there. Looking at the scorecard both spinners were economical but did they look like getting any wickets?

                  Nope. Patel didn't look as menacing as the first game. Sommerville gets it through too fast, not enough flight and doesn't rip it as much as the Pakisatanis do

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

                    Fuck we loves Boulter!

                    About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

                    No Wagner? Boooooooo!

                    Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

                    There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

                    No QuarterN Offline
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                    No Quarter
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #316

                    @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                    Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

                    Fuck we loves Boulter!

                    About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

                    No Wagner? Boooooooo!

                    Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

                    There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

                    That's probably part of the reason they rested him. Big home summer of cricket coming up so they'll want him firing on all cylinders for that.

                    Personally I'd prefer we really pushed for the away series win, though replacing him with Southee doesn't exactly weaken us.

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                    • BovidaeB Bovidae

                      Did anyone watch much of the last 2 sessions?

                      I saw Somerville's first 2 overs and called it a night. There was some turn there. Looking at the scorecard both spinners were economical but did they look like getting any wickets?

                      SiamS Offline
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                      Siam
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #317

                      @bovidae pretty spot on. Both spinners use flight to get above the batsmans eyes but these sub continent players are weined on such spinners and pitches. New guy looked pretty ok ( now there's praise!) but without racking up heaps of maidens it's basically waiting on batsmen errors.

                      Only Sri Lanka have won a series in UAE and only SA, India and us have drawn there. Without a top spinner It's nye on impossible to beat Pakistan at "home" these days .

                      Oh to set them 200 odd in the 4th innings, Pakis hate chasing. But that'll take some change in fortunes or pitch

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                      • SiamS Siam

                        @bovidae pretty spot on. Both spinners use flight to get above the batsmans eyes but these sub continent players are weined on such spinners and pitches. New guy looked pretty ok ( now there's praise!) but without racking up heaps of maidens it's basically waiting on batsmen errors.

                        Only Sri Lanka have won a series in UAE and only SA, India and us have drawn there. Without a top spinner It's nye on impossible to beat Pakistan at "home" these days .

                        Oh to set them 200 odd in the 4th innings, Pakis hate chasing. But that'll take some change in fortunes or pitch

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                        canefan
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #318

                        @siam said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                        @bovidae pretty spot on. Both spinners use flight to get above the batsmans eyes but these sub continent players are weined on such spinners and pitches. New guy looked pretty ok ( now there's praise!) but without racking up heaps of maidens it's basically waiting on batsmen errors.

                        Only Sri Lanka have won a series in UAE and only SA, India and us have drawn there. Without a top spinner It's nye on impossible to beat Pakistan at "home" these days .

                        Oh to set them 200 odd in the 4th innings, Pakis hate chasing. But that'll take some change in fortunes or pitch

                        Assuming we can get them out evens or close the 3rd innings will be crucial

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                        • BovidaeB Offline
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                          Bovidae
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                          #319

                          If we don't start taking some wickets in this innings, Pakistan might not need to bat again.

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                          • canefanC canefan

                            @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                            Did anyone watch much of the last 2 sessions?

                            I saw Somerville's first 2 overs and called it a night. There was some turn there. Looking at the scorecard both spinners were economical but did they look like getting any wickets?

                            Nope. Patel didn't look as menacing as the first game. Sommerville gets it through too fast, not enough flight and doesn't rip it as much as the Pakisatanis do

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                            @canefan there was a bit of talk prior to his selection that Sommerville would need to bowl faster on these pitches, so I think that's part of the game plan. He's bit luckier with his height that getting in into eye-line is a bit easier as part of his normal deliveries. I think both of their spinners get more wrist rip/action compared to our finger spinners - problem is the former are both pretty accurate too!

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              If we don't start taking some wickets in this innings, Pakistan might not need to bat again.

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                              @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                              If we don't start taking some wickets in this innings, Pakistan might not need to bat again.

                              Yeah, but a couple of early wickets will see Pakistan way behind the 8-ball given they have to bat last. That's the benefit of batting first. It's in the balance right now but I'd rather be in our shoes than theirs.

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                              • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                If we don't start taking some wickets in this innings, Pakistan might not need to bat again.

                                Yeah, but a couple of early wickets will see Pakistan way behind the 8-ball given they have to bat last. That's the benefit of batting first. It's in the balance right now but I'd rather be in our shoes than theirs.

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                                Bovidae
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                                #322

                                @no-quarter

                                The first hour will be huge as Boult and Southee look the most likely to get wickets in bunches.

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                                  Bovidae
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                                  #323

                                  Nice to see Watling get more praise. Doull and Franklin were certainly talking him up.

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/109099434/black-caps-unsung-hero-bj-watling-tops-some-of-the-worlds-great-keeperbatsmen

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    Nice to see Watling get more praise. Doull and Franklin were certainly talking him up.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/cricket/109099434/black-caps-unsung-hero-bj-watling-tops-some-of-the-worlds-great-keeperbatsmen

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                                    #324

                                    @bovidae

                                    He used to open the batting didn't he? BJ and Rigor would have to be two of the most successful conversions we've ever had

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @bovidae

                                      He used to open the batting didn't he? BJ and Rigor would have to be two of the most successful conversions we've ever had

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                                      Bovidae
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                                      @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                      He used to open the batting didn't he?

                                      Yes, opener, then dropped, before coming back as a wk/batsmen.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

                                        Fuck we loves Boulter!

                                        About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

                                        No Wagner? Boooooooo!

                                        Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

                                        There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

                                        look, i get it, we all love a battler, but Southee over Wagner in the 3rd test of a series played on dead pitches does kind of make sense.

                                        (i would have played him over Colin).

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                                        #326

                                        @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                        Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

                                        Fuck we loves Boulter!

                                        About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

                                        No Wagner? Boooooooo!

                                        Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

                                        There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

                                        look, i get it, we all love a battler, but Southee over Wagner in the 3rd test of a series played on dead pitches does kind of make sense.

                                        (i would have played him absolutely anyone over Colin).

                                        Fixed

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

                                          Fuck we loves Boulter!

                                          About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

                                          No Wagner? Boooooooo!

                                          Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

                                          There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

                                          look, i get it, we all love a battler, but Southee over Wagner in the 3rd test of a series played on dead pitches does kind of make sense.

                                          (i would have played him absolutely anyone over Colin).

                                          Fixed

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                                          @mn5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @mariner4life said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          @bovidae said in Cricket - NZ vs Pakistan:

                                          Great start with a wicket in Boult's first over. Southee is a very good slip fielder.

                                          Fuck we loves Boulter!

                                          About aa much as we loves Wags. And he's not playing.

                                          No Wagner? Boooooooo!

                                          Not sure it's the right deck to just try and bounce guys out

                                          There's always room for Wagner, he is all guts. He will tear himself up trying to get wickets for the team

                                          look, i get it, we all love a battler, but Southee over Wagner in the 3rd test of a series played on dead pitches does kind of make sense.

                                          (i would have played him absolutely anyone over Colin).

                                          Fixed

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