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England v South Africa

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  • A akan004

    @mikethesnow They were robbed of a chance to win the game but Polard still had to kick a difficult goal so it was by no means guaranteed.

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    @akan004 said in England v South Africa:

    @mikethesnow They were robbed of a chance to win the game but Polard still had to kick a difficult goal so it was by no means guaranteed.

    That is true.

    Terrible decision nonetheless.

    And good old BBC England, highlights of the match on the news and no mention of the controversy at the death.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      What this guy said:

      https://twitter.com/Sean_McMahon89/status/1058766882214436864?s=20

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      @sparky said in England v South Africa:

      What this guy said:

      https://twitter.com/Sean_McMahon89/status/1058766882214436864?s=20

      I hope Mr Gosper has been tweeted that

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        @akan004 said in England v South Africa:

        @no-quarter Yeah. Couldn't believe SA went for the 5 metre lineout twice when Itoje was in the bin. They already had the superior scrum against eight English forwards, they would have easily have had a pushover or a penalty try against seven.

        Regardless of their failings for 79 or so minutes, they were robbed.

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        @mikethesnow said in England v South Africa:

        @akan004 said in England v South Africa:

        @no-quarter Yeah. Couldn't believe SA went for the 5 metre lineout twice when Itoje was in the bin. They already had the superior scrum against eight English forwards, they would have easily have had a pushover or a penalty try against seven.

        Regardless of their failings for 79 or so minutes, they were robbed.

        Nah, I wouldn't claim a robbery of a game. They were robbed of a chance though.
        Gardner flat out bottled it.
        I had to double check it wasn't Hometown Jackson out there.

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          I buy an Australian rugby shirt if we lose to England kicking 4 penalties.

          Nothing to fear imo.

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          • D Derm McCrum

            Congrats England. Great game to watch.

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            @derm-mccrum said in England v South Africa:

            Congrats England. Great game to watch.

            So many tries. Not a box kick in sight. Lovely stuff altogether

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            • Victor MeldrewV Away
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              Sth Africa should have put 20+ points on in the first half. Poor decision making and poor throwing by Marx blew 2-3 chances. Saffa cover defence was exposed by May and co. Thought the England bench did a good job and the Pom defence near the line was excellent.

              Decision by Gardner on Farrell's tackle was strange to say the least, though not sure it would have made much difference as SA had blown it by then

              All in all, can't work out who was more crappier - England or Sth Africa.

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @crucial Marx hasn't been as good this year as he was last year. I'm a bit surprised by his World Rugby nomination for player of the year.

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                @stargazer have always believed he is one trick player, yes he is physical and good st breakdown but he is average in other areas, especially his lineouts which have always been an issue. Core role first.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  Sth Africa should have put 20+ points on in the first half. Poor decision making and poor throwing by Marx blew 2-3 chances. Saffa cover defence was exposed by May and co. Thought the England bench did a good job and the Pom defence near the line was excellent.

                  Decision by Gardner on Farrell's tackle was strange to say the least, though not sure it would have made much difference as SA had blown it by then

                  All in all, can't work out who was more crappier - England or Sth Africa.

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                  @victor-meldrew said in England v South Africa:

                  Decision by Gardner on Farrell's tackle was strange to say the least, though not sure it would have made much difference as SA had blown it by then

                  That astonished me looking at the GIF. IF that isn't a penalty, I no longer have any idea how this game is played any more

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                  • 9 98blueandgold

                    @stargazer have always believed he is one trick player, yes he is physical and good st breakdown but he is average in other areas, especially his lineouts which have always been an issue. Core role first.

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                    @98blueandgold Yep, miles behind Taylor, who deserves a nomination more than Marx. I never understand why Taylor gets so little credit up North.

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                    • nzzpN nzzp

                      @victor-meldrew said in England v South Africa:

                      Decision by Gardner on Farrell's tackle was strange to say the least, though not sure it would have made much difference as SA had blown it by then

                      That astonished me looking at the GIF. IF that isn't a penalty, I no longer have any idea how this game is played any more

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                      @nzzp yeah exactly, penalty all day, I thought Gardner was just trying to work out whether it was yellow or red. Guess that only applies to those wearing black...

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                        Surely the citing commissioner can look at that and issue and off field yellow?

                        We've seen softer hits with more arms and lower pick up yellow in super Rugby...

                        Just highlights the issues they have with that part of the game

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                          What frustrates me is that you watch these teams play the ABs and they seem to lift and play more attacking and then watching this game and the Wales/Scotland game you get about 3 minutes of combined rugby! Please, please smash the English next week 🤞

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                            Dire shit from both teams. Ref was a pussy. The only debate was if it was a yellow or a red. South Africa needs Faf, or any other non mediocre scrum half. Marx needs to be benched based on his display today

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @nzzp yeah exactly, penalty all day, I thought Gardner was just trying to work out whether it was yellow or red. Guess that only applies to those wearing black...

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                              @bones said in England v South Africa:

                              @nzzp yeah exactly, penalty all day, I thought Gardner was just trying to work out whether it was yellow or red. Guess that only applies to those wearing black...

                              Phil Kearns is busting out some Alanis Morrisette in his shower.

                              "It's a free ride, when you've already paid...".

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                                Italy showed more endeavour with ball in hand in the first 20 minutes of their test than either of these teams.

                                Horrible test to watch, but pleased England won.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  Italy showed more endeavour with ball in hand in the first 20 minutes of their test than either of these teams.

                                  Horrible test to watch, but pleased England won.

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                                  @act-crusader said in England v South Africa:

                                  Horrible test to watch, but pleased England won.

                                  Anything to keep Comical Eddie in the job until RWC2019, perchance?

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                                  • R rustycruiser

                                    Dire shit from both teams. Ref was a pussy. The only debate was if it was a yellow or a red. South Africa needs Faf, or any other non mediocre scrum half. Marx needs to be benched based on his display today

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                                    @rustycruiser said in England v South Africa:

                                    Dire shit from both teams.

                                    This. The whole game just appeared slow and mistake-strewn. Bugger-all snap.

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      Surely the citing commissioner can look at that and issue and off field yellow?

                                      We've seen softer hits with more arms and lower pick up yellow in super Rugby...

                                      Just highlights the issues they have with that part of the game

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                                      @taniwharugby said in England v South Africa:

                                      Surely the citing commissioner can look at that and issue and off field yellow?

                                      We've seen softer hits with more arms and lower pick up yellow in super Rugby...

                                      Just highlights the issues they have with that part of the game

                                      Check this out for Farrell before ... something somtehing league background something SB dubya something.

                                      about 17 seconds in, and slomo at 1:50 or so

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                                        Generally, England's defence in this game was excellent. They made 86% of their tackles and stopped South Africa for offloading at all in this game. Itoje made 15 tackles, Wilson 14 and Shields 11 tackles with no misses.

                                        However, the 7 missed tackles by Henry Slade, the four missed tackles by Jonny May and Elliott Daly's low tackle rate will all have been noted by the ABs coaching team.

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                                          Farrell tackle:

                                          https://twitter.com/barow_tristan/status/1058769369831038976?s=20

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