England v South Africa
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@akan004 said in England v South Africa:
That England forward pack should get eaten up by the Bok eight.
Will certainly be a tough test for England's new back row. Will be some bruises to wear before facing us.
I also suspect that Itoje may go missing in the tight once he gets smashed by the big Saffas a few times.
@crucial Don't know much about the English loosehead prop but Kyle Sinckler is one of the weakest scrummaging tightheads around. The only question is whether or not the Boks can lift against a team that is not wearing black, if they can then I think they should have too much for this English team.
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@crucial Don't know much about the English loosehead prop but Kyle Sinckler is one of the weakest scrummaging tightheads around. The only question is whether or not the Boks can lift against a team that is not wearing black, if they can then I think they should have too much for this English team.
@akan004 said in England v South Africa:
@crucial Don't know much about the English loosehead prop but Kyle Sinckler is one of the weakest scrummaging tightheads around. The only question is whether or not the Boks can lift against a team that is not wearing black, if they can then I think they should have too much against this English team.
Alec Hepburn does not look your archetypal loosehead, he looks a bit lightweight, however if his stats on the Exeter Chiefs website are to be believed he's no midget at 6'1" and 17 plus stone. Maybe he gets measured by the same guy that does Ardie Savea?
He's probably the favoured loosehead at Exeter and rarely does it seem that he's a weak scrimmaging link and he gets about the park and carries well. He's now played at under 20 and senior level for England despite being born in Australia. not sure how he qualifies, parents or Grandparents I guess.
Edit: Qualifies through his English father, apparently took up rugby at school in England and played county level under 17s.
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@akan004 said in England v South Africa:
@crucial Don't know much about the English loosehead prop but Kyle Sinckler is one of the weakest scrummaging tightheads around. The only question is whether or not the Boks can lift against a team that is not wearing black, if they can then I think they should have too much against this English team.
Alec Hepburn does not look your archetypal loosehead, he looks a bit lightweight, however if his stats on the Exeter Chiefs website are to be believed he's no midget at 6'1" and 17 plus stone. Maybe he gets measured by the same guy that does Ardie Savea?
He's probably the favoured loosehead at Exeter and rarely does it seem that he's a weak scrimmaging link and he gets about the park and carries well. He's now played at under 20 and senior level for England despite being born in Australia. not sure how he qualifies, parents or Grandparents I guess.
Edit: Qualifies through his English father, apparently took up rugby at school in England and played county level under 17s.
@catogrande said in England v South Africa:
@akan004 said in England v South Africa:
@crucial Don't know much about the English loosehead prop but Kyle Sinckler is one of the weakest scrummaging tightheads around. The only question is whether or not the Boks can lift against a team that is not wearing black, if they can then I think they should have too much against this English team.
Alec Hepburn does not look your archetypal loosehead, he looks a bit lightweight, however if his stats on the Exeter Chiefs website are to be believed he's no midget at 6'1" and 17 plus stone. Maybe he gets measured by the same guy that does Ardie Savea?
If that's the case he must be about 5'2" to start with
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I'm always confused about the racial requirements of the boks. It's always in the news, 50% for rwc and 45% now. But that team has only a handful of players of colour. So they make these rules and just ignore them?
This will be a tight game, England b vs the boks minus their most important current player. As mentioned above, are the boks up for a non ABs game?
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@rapido said in England v South Africa:
2 locks on the bench for Boks. Interesting.
Pieter Steph du Toit will most likely be shifted to no. 7 (in your speak = no.6) at some point.
My guess is in place of Whitely with Duane moving to 8.So likely subbed off will be Whitely for Lood de Jager(50min) and Etzebeth for RG Snyman(65min)...
I am guessing from all of the above that Rassie is expecting a heavy slow paddock requiring lots of grunt up front.
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England by 3.
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SA by 15
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@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
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Jeez base an entire backline around the dreams of one guy and he keeps getting injured. Eddie must be spitting tacks.
@machpants said in England v South Africa:
Jeez base an entire backline around the dreams of one guy and he keeps getting injured. Eddie must be spitting tacks.
Eggs,baskets and all that.
Eddie’s hopes and dreams hinge around Billy V and Tuilagi -
@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
Swap England and SethEfrika for me. Hate England. Always hope they lose.
Last time i hoped they won was the Scotland GS in 1990. Quite liked the way they played with Barnes at 10. The fact they lost with Andrew at 10 serves them right.
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@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
Swap England and SethEfrika for me. Hate England. Always hope they lose.
Last time i hoped they won was the Scotland GS in 1990. Quite liked the way they played with Barnes at 10. The fact they lost with Andrew at 10 serves them right.
@booboo said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
Swap England and SethEfrika for me. Hate England. Always hope they lose.
Last time i hoped they won was the Scotland GS in 1990. Quite liked the way they played with Barnes at 10. The fact they lost with Andrew at 10 serves them right.
Barnes hadn't been on the scene for some time back in 1990 and didn't get another look in until 1993. But you're right, we played better rugby with him at 10.
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@booboo said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
Swap England and SethEfrika for me. Hate England. Always hope they lose.
Last time i hoped they won was the Scotland GS in 1990. Quite liked the way they played with Barnes at 10. The fact they lost with Andrew at 10 serves them right.
Barnes hadn't been on the scene for some time back in 1990 and didn't get another look in until 1993. But you're right, we played better rugby with him at 10.
@catogrande said in England v South Africa:
@booboo said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
Swap England and SethEfrika for me. Hate England. Always hope they lose.
Last time i hoped they won was the Scotland GS in 1990. Quite liked the way they played with Barnes at 10. The fact they lost with Andrew at 10 serves them right.
Barnes hadn't been on the scene for some time back in 1990 and didn't get another look in until 1993. But you're right, we played better rugby with him at 10.
One of my favourite games ever was the game v Aussie in '89 (I think). Carling. Guscott. Underwood. Became a fan of you fuckers briefly. Glad you fucked it up and became so unlikable:) .
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@catogrande said in England v South Africa:
@booboo said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
Swap England and SethEfrika for me. Hate England. Always hope they lose.
Last time i hoped they won was the Scotland GS in 1990. Quite liked the way they played with Barnes at 10. The fact they lost with Andrew at 10 serves them right.
Barnes hadn't been on the scene for some time back in 1990 and didn't get another look in until 1993. But you're right, we played better rugby with him at 10.
One of my favourite games ever was the game v Aussie in '89 (I think). Carling. Guscott. Underwood. Became a fan of you fuckers briefly. Glad you fucked it up and became so unlikable:) .
@booboo said in England v South Africa:
@catogrande said in England v South Africa:
@booboo said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
@no-quarter said in England v South Africa:
@act-crusader said in England v South Africa:
England by 3.
No way, SA by 2.
Nah, England all the way. Springboks are my hatiest team. Even cheer for the Aussies when they play each other.
Swap England and SethEfrika for me. Hate England. Always hope they lose.
Last time i hoped they won was the Scotland GS in 1990. Quite liked the way they played with Barnes at 10. The fact they lost with Andrew at 10 serves them right.
Barnes hadn't been on the scene for some time back in 1990 and didn't get another look in until 1993. But you're right, we played better rugby with him at 10.
One of my favourite games ever was the game v Aussie in '89 (I think). Carling. Guscott. Underwood. Became a fan of you fuckers briefly. Glad you fucked it up and became so unlikable:) .
We find it's not too difficult to make you colonials chippy. :winking_face:
Probably '88. We won in London but lost away earlier in the year.
