England vs All Blacks
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What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
BFA to centre, BB to FB, DMac to the wing, Mo’unga to 10?
Happy to see Ofa offering punch on the bench at LHP instead of the very ordinary Perry. That’s the Luxury of having Laulala fit again I guess.
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Other facts:
- The All Blacks will again have an embroidered poppy on their sleeves this weekend to mark the Centenary of Armistice Day. The Royal New Zealand Returned and Services Association's poppy was designed specifically for New Zealand and has been in use since 1978.
- The All Blacks and England will also be playing their tenth match for the Hillary Shield. The trophy, named in honour of Sir Edmund Hillary, was first contested for in 2008.
- The All Blacks and England have played each other 40 times in their much-storied history, with 32 wins to the All Blacks, seven to England and one draw. The most recent Test was in November 2014 at Twickenham, which the All Blacks narrowly won 24-21.
- Locks Brodie Retallick and Samuel Whitelock will be playing their 49th Test together, equalling the All Blacks starting locks partnership record set by Robin Brooke and Ian Jones. Meanwhile, Ben Smith will be playing his 75th Test and Codie Taylor his 40th.
@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
- The All Blacks and England have played each other 40 times in their much-storied history, with 32 wins to the All Blacks, seven to England and one draw. The most recent Test was in November 2014 at Twickenham, which the All Blacks narrowly won 24-21.
Press Officer been reading the Fern?
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What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
BFA to centre, BB to FB, DMac to the wing, Mo’unga to 10?
Happy to see Ofa offering punch on the bench at LHP instead of the very ordinary Perry. That’s the Luxury of having Laulala fit again I guess.
@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
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Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
@mariner4life said in England vs All Blacks:
Crotty on the bench is a waste of a spot
Whilst I agree, if that's our only issue we're in pretty good shape.
(Would have picked ALB meself)
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
OK so what's the origins of the storied thing? I missed it.
Keep up bones...
Actually can't remember the thread unfortunately. Must be my memory going with age.
Discuss.
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
OK so what's the origins of the storied thing? I missed it.
Keep up bones...
Actually can't remember the thread unfortunately. Must be my memory going with age.
Discuss.
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@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
OK so what's the origins of the storied thing? I missed it.
Keep up bones...
Actually can't remember the thread unfortunately. Must be my memory going with age.
Discuss.
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
OK so what's the origins of the storied thing? I missed it.
Keep up bones...
Actually can't remember the thread unfortunately. Must be my memory going with age.
Discuss.
Thanks. Very valuable input.
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@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
Oh no wonder. Just going off the title that sounds like the most boring thread ever.
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@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
Oh no wonder. Just going off the title that sounds like the most boring thread ever.
@bones we discussed storied lives, or storied lives were to be discussed, I cant recall exactly, but was very storied.
Discuss.
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@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
Oh no wonder. Just going off the title that sounds like the most boring thread ever.
@bones said in England vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:
@booboo NZ POlitics one IIRC....
Oh no wonder. Just going off the title that sounds like the most boring thread ever.
I suggest going to the "Alternative from Stuff" thread and trying to find some sort of seafood that hasn't been mentioned in the last few hundred posts.
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Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
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@chris-b said in England vs All Blacks:
I guess Angus is yet another who plays both sides?
According to Hansen, yes. He was selected over Perry for that reason.
@bovidae said in England vs All Blacks:
@chris-b said in England vs All Blacks:
I guess Angus is yet another who plays both sides?
According to Hansen, yes. He was selected over Perry for that reason.
Anyone ever seen him play there?
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Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
Poms will doing everything they can to slow it down. One trick BL used was to get someone to rush up to disrupt/discourage quick lineouts. Also mud in eye, etc. at lineout and scrum time a la Wobblies circa 2000.
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@mikethesnow said in England vs All Blacks:
@victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
Worked in Sth Wales for 2 years. The likes of Jason Leonard, Will Carling & Robshaw etc, were regarded as top blokes while the likes of Mike Brown or Matt Dawson were seen as twats.
Personally, I think the Welsh just have a finely developed sense of which players are pricks to lose to...
Oh, and Jonathan "space out wide, space out wide" Davies was regarded as a complete tosser for some reason
Yep.
Last 3 of 5 speakers at my local club's annual dinner have been English - Jon Bentley, Andy Rippley, Shaun Edwards.
All have delivered heartfelt and honest talks, taken some tough Q&As, and stuck around and stayed over to drink the night away and talk bollocks with the boys.
Leg Ends.
The dislike of Jonathan Davies by some may be down to his family circumstances rather than his playing career. Won't elaborate but he might not be whiter than white if you get my drift.
Last 5 years, are you sure it was Andy Ripley, Mike? If it was I hope the medium got a bloody good fee. The great man died in 2010
@disgusted-of-tw said in England vs All Blacks:
@mikethesnow said in England vs All Blacks:
@victor-meldrew said in England Vs All Blacks:
Worked in Sth Wales for 2 years. The likes of Jason Leonard, Will Carling & Robshaw etc, were regarded as top blokes while the likes of Mike Brown or Matt Dawson were seen as twats.
Personally, I think the Welsh just have a finely developed sense of which players are pricks to lose to...
Oh, and Jonathan "space out wide, space out wide" Davies was regarded as a complete tosser for some reason
Yep.
Last 3 of 5 speakers at my local club's annual dinner have been English - Jon Bentley, Andy Rippley, Shaun Edwards.
All have delivered heartfelt and honest talks, taken some tough Q&As, and stuck around and stayed over to drink the night away and talk bollocks with the boys.
Leg Ends.
The dislike of Jonathan Davies by some may be down to his family circumstances rather than his playing career. Won't elaborate but he might not be whiter than white if you get my drift.
Last 5 years, are you sure it was Andy Ripley, Mike? If it was I hope the medium got a bloody good fee. The great man died in 2010
Shit you're right. Oldtimers kicked in there.
Meant to say David Duckham.
Oops.
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@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
Poms will doing everything they can to slow it down. One trick BL used was to get someone to rush up to disrupt/discourage quick lineouts. Also mud in eye, etc. at lineout and scrum time a la Wobblies circa 2000.
@pakman said in England vs All Blacks:
@act-crusader said in England vs All Blacks:
Excellent lineup. Although I would’ve gone with Crotty and Goodhue starting, Mo’unga at 10, Bridge on the wing, Todd at 7....
The main thing for me is whether the ABs will play at that break neck pace in the first half that we’ve seen so far this year. I hope we do and hoping Aaron Smith and Barrett play a little flatter.
Poms will doing everything they can to slow it down. One trick BL used was to get someone to rush up to disrupt/discourage quick lineouts. Also mud in eye, etc. at lineout and scrum time a la Wobblies circa 2000.
I agree that they will try to slow it down, but the Wallabies and Boks tried to do that as well. Even it that loss to the Boks we were able to play at a fast pace in the 1st 40
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@number9 said in England vs All Blacks:
Ofa is not a Loosehead, should have selected Perry.
Funny how Ta'avao and Ofa have both swapped sides.
@booboo said in England vs All Blacks:
@number9 said in England vs All Blacks:
Ofa is not a Loosehead, should have selected Perry.
Funny how Ta'avao and Ofa have both swapped sides.
I think I might trust Cron on this call.
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@gunner said in England vs All Blacks:
What happens when SBW leaves the field after 20 minutes then Crotty 10 minutes later?
Ardie to 2nd 5/8?
