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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @stargazer said in England vs All Blacks:

    Should the selectors opt for a replacement, Hurricanes midfielder Ngani Laumape looms as the likely candidate after his starring role in last week’s big win over Japan.

    Really? The obvious answer for most would be Crotty to start, either with Goodhue or ALB, IMO Laumape only comes in to the bench if they start Crotty-ALB, if it is Crotty-Goodhue, ALB is the bench man

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    @taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:

    @stargazer said in England vs All Blacks:

    Should the selectors opt for a replacement, Hurricanes midfielder Ngani Laumape looms as the likely candidate after his starring role in last week’s big win over Japan.

    Really? The obvious answer for most would be Crotty to start, either with Goodhue or ALB, IMO Laumape only comes in to the bench if they start Crotty-ALB, if it is Crotty-Goodhue, ALB is the bench man

    Is Laumape in the squad post Japan?

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      @taniwharugby I think they mean his replacement in the touring squad, not the playing squad.

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      @stargazer I thought he was with them anyway? this 51 man squad is dumb!

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        @taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:

        @stargazer said in England vs All Blacks:

        Should the selectors opt for a replacement, Hurricanes midfielder Ngani Laumape looms as the likely candidate after his starring role in last week’s big win over Japan.

        Really? The obvious answer for most would be Crotty to start, either with Goodhue or ALB, IMO Laumape only comes in to the bench if they start Crotty-ALB, if it is Crotty-Goodhue, ALB is the bench man

        Is Laumape in the squad post Japan?

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        @booboo Nope.

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        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

          @stargazer I thought he was with them anyway? this 51 man squad is dumb!

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          @taniwharugby Not in the main squad; was in the extended squad only.

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            @booboo Nope.

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            @stargazer said in England vs All Blacks:

            @booboo Nope.

            Thanks Gazer. Think we were making the same point.

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              so have to assume Ngani returned to NZ some time this week, be a big ask for him to turn around and get on another plane today/tomorrow?

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                so have to assume Ngani returned to NZ some time this week, be a big ask for him to turn around and get on another plane today/tomorrow?

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                @taniwharugby It would normally only be as injury cover, and maybe playing against Italy.

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                  0_1541885587970_418afd58-eda5-4fc5-9c53-b4126ac8add8-image.jpeg https://mobile.twitter.com/lathangie/status/1061333362370076674/photo/1

                  A more perpendicular line, but the hind most foot is a few cm left, you can see it blurry between lawes legs and 17's arm

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    so have to assume Ngani returned to NZ some time this week, be a big ask for him to turn around and get on another plane today/tomorrow?

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                    @taniwharugby said in England vs All Blacks:

                    so have to assume Ngani returned to NZ some time this week, be a big ask for him to turn around and get on another plane today/tomorrow?

                    He’ll have a week to recover. Maybe they could have Reiko cover next week if one of the three remaining midfielders go down. Ben Smith covers there too.

                    Then have Ngani cover for Italy?

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                      0_1541885587970_418afd58-eda5-4fc5-9c53-b4126ac8add8-image.jpeg https://mobile.twitter.com/lathangie/status/1061333362370076674/photo/1

                      A more perpendicular line, but the hind most foot is a few cm left, you can see it blurry between lawes legs and 17's arm

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                      @machpants said in England vs All Blacks:

                      0_1541885587970_418afd58-eda5-4fc5-9c53-b4126ac8add8-image.jpeg https://mobile.twitter.com/lathangie/status/1061333362370076674/photo/1

                      A more perpendicular line, but the hind most foot is a few cm left, you can see it blurry between lawes legs and 17's arm

                      Yeah that line is too far forward, and he’s still in front of. The UK media is being dishonest if they think this is a controversial decision.

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                        0_1541885587970_418afd58-eda5-4fc5-9c53-b4126ac8add8-image.jpeg https://mobile.twitter.com/lathangie/status/1061333362370076674/photo/1

                        A more perpendicular line, but the hind most foot is a few cm left, you can see it blurry between lawes legs and 17's arm

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                        @machpants you mean a few CM in the image, not on the field, which again puts 2nd in from the top offside as well...no way is the entire English defensive line half a metre behind the offside line and only Lawes on the line....the line should be well behind Lawes rear foot.

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                          BTW the shot was just the only one I could find quickly. It was someone else’s graphics on Twitter.

                          My point wasn’t so much the actual offside line but how out of line Lawes was with the rest of his team. Either he got it wrong or they all did.

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                            Playing devil's advocate (naturally) was it even a ruck? No England players competed at any point.

                            Either way it was a great test and was worth the wait. Can't win a game if you can't win your own lineout ball.

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                              Playing devil's advocate (naturally) was it even a ruck? No England players competed at any point.

                              Either way it was a great test and was worth the wait. Can't win a game if you can't win your own lineout ball.

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                              @margin_walker there is an English guy on the ground, see his head under refs hand and feet to the left of Lawes leg...he looks part of it?

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                              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                @margin_walker there is an English guy on the ground, see his head under refs hand and feet to the left of Lawes leg...he looks part of it?

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                                @taniwharugby

                                Yeah, he was the tackler. No one else went in that I could see

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                                  @taniwharugby

                                  Yeah, he was the tackler. No one else went in that I could see

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                                  @margin_walker but when he tackles the player you now have a ruck with 1 each there.

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                                    https://twitter.com/GregAFC/status/1061369686288265217

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @margin_walker but when he tackles the player you now have a ruck with 1 each there.

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                                      @taniwharugby

                                      Too late in the day to get my law book out, but I'm pretty sure that's just a tackle situation. Not a ruck. Need a defending player to actually compete for the ball in some way.

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                                        @taniwharugby

                                        Too late in the day to get my law book out, but I'm pretty sure that's just a tackle situation. Not a ruck. Need a defending player to actually compete for the ball in some way.

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                                        @margin_walker well the next AB player in moments later causes it to be a ruck or if the English guy gains his feet to atack the ball, only need 2 for a ruck

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                                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                                          https://twitter.com/GregAFC/status/1061369686288265217

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                                          @stargazer said in England vs All Blacks:

                                          https://twitter.com/GregAFC/status/1061369686288265217

                                          Great find Gazer.

                                          Puts all into perspective. Offside. Not even debatable.

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