Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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Most teams aren't going to lay all their cards on the table less than 12 months from a world cup. So I don't think it's ridiculous to suggest that they played this game differently than they would have a must-win RWC game.
I don't think anyone would have predicted that we wouldn't score a try and that Retallick, Read and B. Barrett would all be poor and our best players would be Ardie, Goodhue and S. Barrett. Hindsight is 20/20 but if you had told the team before they game that if they approached it the way they did, this would be the outcome, there's no way they wouldn't have played differently. Not saying they would have won but the idea that this was the outcome of pulling out all the stops is naive.
This doesn't absolve the coaches or players but it does put it into context. If we rock up playing like this against a tier 1 nation next year, we should expect a similar result.
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A few minutes past midnight and a truck was seen departing Rugby HQ in Wellington with large 24 gallon drums. One sauce said he saw the driver look inside each of them before carting them away. Some were heavier than others. The same sauce wondered if any contained this mysterious dry powder that has been rumoured to have been in the basement under 24 hour security since the pre-RWC loss to the Wallabies in Sydney in 1991.
Drum after drum, some with worn out signage - “1998-2002 master plan”, “losses we had to have”, “choking talking points”, “blame the grey”, “We wanted Deans”, “Richard Loe really is a nice guy”, “Mealamu and Christian values”, “Isaac Ross X-files”, “footage of Taine doing sit-ups and pull-ups”, “that handbag”.
One drum that took three guys to move had a inordinate number of random stickers on it with names of players, too numerous to see then all, but some names were Kevin O’Neill, Mark Carter, Jimmy Cowan, Aled de Malmache, Sosene Anesi, Pat Lam, just to name a few. As the drum was rolled into position on the truck, a larger sticker was now visible that simply read “photo albums”.
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A few minutes past midnight and a truck was seen departing Rugby HQ in Wellington with large 24 gallon drums. One sauce said he saw the driver look inside each of them before carting them away. Some were heavier than others. The same sauce wondered if any contained this mysterious dry powder that has been rumoured to have been in the basement under 24 hour security since the pre-RWC loss to the Wallabies in Sydney in 1991.
Drum after drum, some with worn out signage - “1998-2002 master plan”, “losses we had to have”, “choking talking points”, “blame the grey”, “We wanted Deans”, “Richard Loe really is a nice guy”, “Mealamu and Christian values”, “Isaac Ross X-files”, “footage of Taine doing sit-ups and pull-ups”, “that handbag”.
One drum that took three guys to move had a inordinate number of random stickers on it with names of players, too numerous to see then all, but some names were Kevin O’Neill, Mark Carter, Jimmy Cowan, Aled de Malmache, Sosene Anesi, Pat Lam, just to name a few. As the drum was rolled into position on the truck, a larger sticker was now visible that simply read “photo albums”.
@act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
A few minutes past midnight and a truck was seen departing Rugby HQ in Wellington with large 24 gallon drums. One sauce said he saw the driver look inside each of them before carting them away. Some were heavier than others. The same sauce wondered if any contained this mysterious dry powder that has been rumoured to have been in the basement under 24 hour security since the pre-RWC loss to the Wallabies in Sydney in 1991.
Drum after drum, some with worn out signage - “1998-2002 master plan”, “losses we had to have”, “choking talking points”, “blame the grey”, “We wanted Deans”, “Richard Loe really is a nice guy”, “Mealamu and Christian values”, “Isaac Ross X-files”, “footage of Taine doing sit-ups and pull-ups”, “that handbag”.
One drum that took three guys to move had a inordinate number of random stickers on it with names of players, too numerous to see then all, but some names were Kevin O’Neill, Mark Carter, Jimmy Cowan, Aled de Malmache, Sosene Anesi, Pat Lam, just to name a few. As the drum was rolled into position on the truck, a larger sticker was now visible that simply read “photo albums”.
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@majorrage said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mikethesnow said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Keeping your powder dry.
Thought the preferred NZ heritage is Scottish not English.
Get fucked.
Beaten. Deservedly.
Learn or fuck off.
I really don’t get this post at all.
IT's quite easy to interpret.
He doesn't think we are keeping our powder dry and even saying so is a very English thing to do, so please go have some action, because we were well beaten, learn from mistakes or please go away.
Does that make it easier
Spoken like a true history graduate.
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Well that was a forgettable 2 weeks display by the ABS. What I can't understand is why play the best fullback on the wing, why is ALB not given more chances, Aaron Smith is out of form, TJ should've started with TTT on the bench. Every team runs at our 10/12 axes, cause we do not have a big hitting 6 like a Jerry Collins (rip) or Jerome Kaino. Its all good having forwards that pass and run like backs, but do your core duties first and foremost. Sam Whitelock looks old and tired, same with Read and Franks. Who is our defensive and attacking coaches? We've leaked more tries than usual and our attack is so predictable. One swallow doesn't make a summer, but geez bring back Wayne Smith, and please Steve Hansen pick Akira Ioane. And one last thing: I do not see any evidence of our much vaunted conditioning. Rant over GO THE MIGHTY ALL BLACKS. Sorry one last rant: IF I EVER SEE ANOTHER BOX KICK IN MY LIFETIME I WILL CHOKE SLAM MYSELF:pouting_face: :pouting_face: :pouting_face: :pouting_face: :pouting_face: :pouting_face: As you were.:grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
RS talkback has been pretty reasonable since yesterday, maybe all the loons are still hitting things, or maybe they only call up at night!
@snowy has ditched the phone for the fern.
@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
RS talkback has been pretty reasonable since yesterday, maybe all the loons are still hitting things, or maybe they only call up at night!
@snowy has ditched the phone for the fern.
I threw the phone through the tele about 78 minutes in.
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Though I am not a fan, I think a player like Tuipolutu could have been useful during the last minutes.
@cgrant said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Though I am not a fan, I think a player like Tuipolutu could have been useful during the last minutes.
We already had enough locks on the field that were dropping ball...
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A few minutes past midnight and a truck was seen departing Rugby HQ in Wellington with large 24 gallon drums. One sauce said he saw the driver look inside each of them before carting them away. Some were heavier than others. The same sauce wondered if any contained this mysterious dry powder that has been rumoured to have been in the basement under 24 hour security since the pre-RWC loss to the Wallabies in Sydney in 1991.
Drum after drum, some with worn out signage - “1998-2002 master plan”, “losses we had to have”, “choking talking points”, “blame the grey”, “We wanted Deans”, “Richard Loe really is a nice guy”, “Mealamu and Christian values”, “Isaac Ross X-files”, “footage of Taine doing sit-ups and pull-ups”, “that handbag”.
One drum that took three guys to move had a inordinate number of random stickers on it with names of players, too numerous to see then all, but some names were Kevin O’Neill, Mark Carter, Jimmy Cowan, Aled de Malmache, Sosene Anesi, Pat Lam, just to name a few. As the drum was rolled into position on the truck, a larger sticker was now visible that simply read “photo albums”.
@act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
A few minutes past midnight and a truck was seen departing Rugby HQ in Wellington with large 24 gallon drums. One sauce said he saw the driver look inside each of them before carting them away. Some were heavier than others. The same sauce wondered if any contained this mysterious dry powder that has been rumoured to have been in the basement under 24 hour security since the pre-RWC loss to the Wallabies in Sydney in 1991.
Tomato or BBQ sauce?
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@act-crusader said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
A few minutes past midnight and a truck was seen departing Rugby HQ in Wellington with large 24 gallon drums. One sauce said he saw the driver look inside each of them before carting them away. Some were heavier than others. The same sauce wondered if any contained this mysterious dry powder that has been rumoured to have been in the basement under 24 hour security since the pre-RWC loss to the Wallabies in Sydney in 1991.
Tomato or BBQ sauce?
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@machpants secret sauce.
@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@machpants secret sauce.
Most kebab places these days only let you choose three sources
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If this powder dry theory turns out to have a skerrick of reality, it's still not the reason we lost.
Ireland played and executed better.
There effort and commitment without the ball was magnificent. They were hungrier and held onto their tackles like demons.For all our pointed out short comings, we can take nothing away from Ireland who planned and executed a fine way to beat NZ
Kudos to them
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If this powder dry theory turns out to have a skerrick of reality, it's still not the reason we lost.
Ireland played and executed better.
There effort and commitment without the ball was magnificent. They were hungrier and held onto their tackles like demons.For all our pointed out short comings, we can take nothing away from Ireland who planned and executed a fine way to beat NZ
Kudos to them
@siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Ireland played and executed better.
I think we played enough rugby to win, but our execution sucked balls; from our aimless kick and hope to dropping balls that would be caught the other 9 times out of 10, and a few players had thier 1/10 handling skills on show.
I guess they werent hugely far off in this game, and we keep hearing there is so little between the top teams that one has an off day and thats you done.
The odd thing was, how they didnt change things up, or around when what we were doing wasnt working, whereas last week v England, we adapted and adjusted - deliberate or just Ireland wouldnt let us change? Bit of both IMO.
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@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
RS talkback has been pretty reasonable since yesterday, maybe all the loons are still hitting things, or maybe they only call up at night!
@snowy has ditched the phone for the fern.
@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
RS talkback has been pretty reasonable since yesterday, maybe all the loons are still hitting things, or maybe they only call up at night!
@snowy has ditched the phone for the fern.
It's great to see the older generation figuring out how to log in and join the discussion online. They provide the perfect combination of grumpiness and cynicism to ensure nobody ever gets too positive about anything.
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@stargazer said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Australia snuck ahead of Scotland after beating fucken Italy?
Man fuck that and fuck you too @NTA
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@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@machpants secret sauce.
Most kebab places these days only let you choose three sources
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@machpants secret sauce.
Most kebab places these days only let you choose three sources
Thanks, as always an insightful post that adds depth to the discussion.
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@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
RS talkback has been pretty reasonable since yesterday, maybe all the loons are still hitting things, or maybe they only call up at night!
@snowy has ditched the phone for the fern.
It's great to see the older generation figuring out how to log in and join the discussion online. They provide the perfect combination of grumpiness and cynicism to ensure nobody ever gets too positive about anything.
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@bones said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@taniwharugby said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
RS talkback has been pretty reasonable since yesterday, maybe all the loons are still hitting things, or maybe they only call up at night!
@snowy has ditched the phone for the fern.
It's great to see the older generation figuring out how to log in and join the discussion online. They provide the perfect combination of grumpiness and cynicism to ensure nobody ever gets too positive about anything.
Hey, I have been pissing people off here for 20 years!
As for the rugby - It's all about balance. We might now have dry powder but lost, so we should have used that powder to blow the Irish off the field. We can think about next year, well, next year. Live for the moment kids.
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@stargazer said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Australia snuck ahead of Scotland after beating fucken Italy?
Man fuck that and fuck you too @NTA
@mn5 I’m not sure how all this ranking palava works and usually take very little notice of it, but given Australia’s recent record, an(y) away win is sure to bolster their points.
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If this powder dry theory turns out to have a skerrick of reality, it's still not the reason we lost.
Ireland played and executed better.
There effort and commitment without the ball was magnificent. They were hungrier and held onto their tackles like demons.For all our pointed out short comings, we can take nothing away from Ireland who planned and executed a fine way to beat NZ
Kudos to them
@siam said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
If this powder dry theory turns out to have a skerrick of reality, it's still not the reason we lost.
Ireland played and executed better.
There effort and commitment without the ball was magnificent. They were hungrier and held onto their tackles like demons.For all our pointed out short comings, we can take nothing away from Ireland who planned and executed a fine way to beat NZ
Kudos to them
Their defense in the final 10 when we threw everything at them was nothing short of incredible given how buggered they were. The kind of defense that wins you big test matches.
