Ireland vs All Blacks (2018)
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@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
No the Irish poached him off us.
He signed for league about a week before Matthew Ridge if I recall correctly, luckily Ridge didn't know and I say this cos theres no way I'd want a cock like that in the black jersey, give me slow and steady Colt Crowley any day of the week.
Aaaargh, if we follow that selection policy we'll start resembling Australia results wise. Some of our best players have been utter pricks (even some with 'good' public personas).
Yeah I know but Ridge wasn't even that good and seems to have an extra dose of cuntiness
Wasn't even that good is still shit loads better than Crowley. Ridge wasn't lighting quick either but his anticipation and timing was great - remember he learnt his cuntiness from guys like Fitzy.
Yeah I was being sarcastic to be fair. Luckily guys like Timu, Osborne, Cullen, McDonald, Muliaina, Dagg and Smith came along and obliterated any memories of him.
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@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I'll think you'll find, as he says repeatedly, that there was no future for him in NH rugby and he would bever have been selected, so he self poached himself to play club rugby in NZ.
Really? - like a lot of the SR players then. Funny how the world turns - didn’t know that.
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I'll think you'll find, as he says repeatedly, that there was no future for him in NH rugby and he would bever have been selected, so he self poached himself to play club rugby in NZ.
Really? - like a lot of the SR players then. Funny how the world turns - didn’t know that.
He played for Ireland a in 1996 after an extensive test career in New Zealand
Bit of an own goal there mate.
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@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 It was a pity we didn't move Timu earlier.
On Ridge. I remember being on a camping holiday and in the days before smartphones being desperate for something to read on a rainy day, my exes uncles had Ridges book and it was reasonably good, he certainly said what he thought. I do recall one chapter where he supposedly sledged Brad Thorn ( I find that hard to believe ) about wanting to become an AB. Given what the latter ended up achieving in Union I would find it extremely funny being a fly on the wall if they ever ended up in the same room together.
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@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 It was a pity we didn't move Timu earlier.
On Ridge. I remember being on a camping holiday and in the days before smartphones being desperate for something to read on a rainy day, my exes uncles had Ridges book and it was reasonably good, he certainly said what he thought. I do recall one chapter where he supposedly sledged Brad Thorn ( I find that hard to believe ) about wanting to become an AB. Given what the latter ended up achieving in Union I would find it extremely funny being a fly on the wall if they ever ended up in the same room together.
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 It was a pity we didn't move Timu earlier.
On Ridge. I remember being on a camping holiday and in the days before smartphones being desperate for something to read on a rainy day, my exes uncles had Ridges book and it was reasonably good, he certainly said what he thought. I do recall one chapter where he supposedly sledged Brad Thorn ( I find that hard to believe ) about wanting to become an AB. Given what the latter ended up achieving in Union I would find it extremely funny being a fly on the wall if they ever ended up in the same room together.
Yeah, that was always funny, but at the time made sense I reckon - who would have thought he'd become a legend in rugby (enough of this Union rubbish, we're not Australian
) and TBF he was a bit of a failure on his first go round.I think TBF that Ridge which take any shit he got or it on the chin.
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@nepia said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 It was a pity we didn't move Timu earlier.
On Ridge. I remember being on a camping holiday and in the days before smartphones being desperate for something to read on a rainy day, my exes uncles had Ridges book and it was reasonably good, he certainly said what he thought. I do recall one chapter where he supposedly sledged Brad Thorn ( I find that hard to believe ) about wanting to become an AB. Given what the latter ended up achieving in Union I would find it extremely funny being a fly on the wall if they ever ended up in the same room together.
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@mn5 you should read beleaguered, it gives the warriors side of the story . Agree his book is good though.
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 you should read beleaguered, it gives the warriors side of the story . Agree his book is good though.
Thanks but I've got a smartphone these days, my attention span doesn't go beyond memes and talking shit on forums with other blokes.
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@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 you should read beleaguered, it gives the warriors side of the story . Agree his book is good though.
Thanks but I've got a smartphone these days, my attention span doesn't go beyond memes and talking shit on forums with other blokes.
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 you should read beleaguered, it gives the warriors side of the story . Agree his book is good though.
Thanks but I've got a smartphone these days, my attention span doesn't go beyond memes and talking shit on forums with other blokes.
Basically he got a huge contract during the super league bullshit , behaved like a fluffybunny. Retired and came back as management and behaved like a fluffybunny .
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@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 you should read beleaguered, it gives the warriors side of the story . Agree his book is good though.
Thanks but I've got a smartphone these days, my attention span doesn't go beyond memes and talking shit on forums with other blokes.
Basically he got a huge contract during the super league bullshit , behaved like a fluffybunny. Retired and came back as management and behaved like a fluffybunny .
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 you should read beleaguered, it gives the warriors side of the story . Agree his book is good though.
Thanks but I've got a smartphone these days, my attention span doesn't go beyond memes and talking shit on forums with other blokes.
Basically he got a huge contract during the super league bullshit , behaved like a fluffybunny. Retired and came back as management and behaved like a fluffybunny .
This is your least surprising post ever.
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@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 you should read beleaguered, it gives the warriors side of the story . Agree his book is good though.
Thanks but I've got a smartphone these days, my attention span doesn't go beyond memes and talking shit on forums with other blokes.
Basically he got a huge contract during the super league bullshit , behaved like a fluffybunny. Retired and came back as management and behaved like a fluffybunny .
This is your least surprising post ever.
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@mn5 you should read beleaguered, it gives the warriors side of the story . Agree his book is good though.
Thanks but I've got a smartphone these days, my attention span doesn't go beyond memes and talking shit on forums with other blokes.
Basically he got a huge contract during the super league bullshit , behaved like a fluffybunny. Retired and came back as management and behaved like a fluffybunny .
This is your least surprising post ever.
I should have said hypocritical fluffybunny , he was injured so often his teammates called him tampon- in one week and out for three yet he wanted to cut players for getting injured too often
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I must say it broke my heart a bit when I found out he was a pom. But it says everything about pom rugby at the time that a player of his calibre would never have gotten near the top. In any case, he acquired the bulk of his skills through the excellence of the NZ rugby system
.On Ridge, maybe he would have been less of a cnut if he hadn't gone to the cnut's nest that is Manly?
On Timu, would Jonah have been selected if Timu hadn't defected to league?
On Crowley, that bugger looked like a 70s AB who snuck onto the ground. Talk about regressing.
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
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@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I must say it broke my heart a bit when I found out he was a pom. But it says everything about pom rugby at the time that a player of his calibre would never have gotten near the top. In any case, he acquired the bulk of his skills through the excellence of the NZ rugby system
.On Ridge, maybe he would have been less of a cnut if he hadn't gone to the cnut's nest that is Manly?
On Timu, would Jonah have been selected if Timu hadn't defected to league?
On Crowley, that bugger looked like a 70s AB who snuck onto the ground. Talk about regressing.
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
@rancid-schnitzel in his book he talks about him and a mate beating up a taxi driver and stealing her money when he was a teenager so Manly can’t be solely responsible for him turning into such a fluffybunny .
Turned out the taxi driver was Jarrod McCrackons aunt and he gave Ridge a hiding at a kiwis training camp as payback . -
@rancid-schnitzel in his book he talks about him and a mate beating up a taxi driver and stealing her money when he was a teenager so Manly can’t be solely responsible for him turning into such a fluffybunny .
Turned out the taxi driver was Jarrod McCrackons aunt and he gave Ridge a hiding at a kiwis training camp as payback .@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
Turned out the taxi driver was Jarrod McCrackons aunt and he gave Ridge a hiding at a kiwis training camp as payback .
Outstanding.
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@rancid-schnitzel in his book he talks about him and a mate beating up a taxi driver and stealing her money when he was a teenager so Manly can’t be solely responsible for him turning into such a fluffybunny .
Turned out the taxi driver was Jarrod McCrackons aunt and he gave Ridge a hiding at a kiwis training camp as payback .@jegga said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel in his book he talks about him and a mate beating up a taxi driver and stealing her money when he was a teenager so Manly can’t be solely responsible for him turning into such a fluffybunny .
Turned out the taxi driver was Jarrod McCrackons aunt and he gave Ridge a hiding at a kiwis training camp as payback .Phil Mycrackin. Another cnut.
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@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I must say it broke my heart a bit when I found out he was a pom. But it says everything about pom rugby at the time that a player of his calibre would never have gotten near the top. In any case, he acquired the bulk of his skills through the excellence of the NZ rugby system
.On Ridge, maybe he would have been less of a cnut if he hadn't gone to the cnut's nest that is Manly?
On Timu, would Jonah have been selected if Timu hadn't defected to league?
On Crowley, that bugger looked like a 70s AB who snuck onto the ground. Talk about regressing.
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I must say it broke my heart a bit when I found out he was a pom. But it says everything about pom rugby at the time that a player of his calibre would never have gotten near the top. In any case, he acquired the bulk of his skills through the excellence of the NZ rugby system
.On Ridge, maybe he would have been less of a cnut if he hadn't gone to the cnut's nest that is Manly?
On Timu, would Jonah have been selected if Timu hadn't defected to league?
On Crowley, that bugger looked like a 70s AB who snuck onto the ground. Talk about regressing.
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
Would any of them have cracked the 80 kg Mark?
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@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I must say it broke my heart a bit when I found out he was a pom. But it says everything about pom rugby at the time that a player of his calibre would never have gotten near the top. In any case, he acquired the bulk of his skills through the excellence of the NZ rugby system
.On Ridge, maybe he would have been less of a cnut if he hadn't gone to the cnut's nest that is Manly?
On Timu, would Jonah have been selected if Timu hadn't defected to league?
On Crowley, that bugger looked like a 70s AB who snuck onto the ground. Talk about regressing.
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I must say it broke my heart a bit when I found out he was a pom. But it says everything about pom rugby at the time that a player of his calibre would never have gotten near the top. In any case, he acquired the bulk of his skills through the excellence of the NZ rugby system
.On Ridge, maybe he would have been less of a cnut if he hadn't gone to the cnut's nest that is Manly?
On Timu, would Jonah have been selected if Timu hadn't defected to league?
On Crowley, that bugger looked like a 70s AB who snuck onto the ground. Talk about regressing.
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
This good bastard used to sell me beer when I was underage , I had no idea he was an former all black . He was bloody small though http://stats.allblacks.com/asp/Profile.asp?ABID=766
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I for one will be very happy if we see conditions and tries like that this weekend.
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@machpants said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@billy-tell said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
He did a wind up piece for the NZ audience 'not within the spirit of the game' etc etc
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12159079&ref=rss
What a load of bollocks. Didn't even bother to research how Aki landed in Connacht, never mind that he's playing 12 for Ireland. As for mainstay in midfield, I'm sure Henshaw and Ringrose might beg to differ. Addison and Farrell aren't too shabby either. But the journalist had a "story" to tell and a theme to pursue I realise.
The scouring the world for project players schtick is also wide of the mark given the investment the IRFU is putting into the IQ programme. And as for "Irish tactic harming world rugby", a quick look at the numbers might tell a different story.
The number of SH-born players currently in Six Nations clubs/provinces is 567. That includes professional players in four competitions - Top14, Premiership, PRO14 and the French second division PRO D2. It excludes the two SA teams in PRO14 for obvious reasons.
There's 443 SH-born players out of a total of 2,014 players in the 3 top leagues - covering all 38 teams/senior squads and the club academies in UK & Ireland. French teams don't provide as much details on their young academy players so don't have those numbers/births..
France has 311 SH-born - 55%
England 147 - 26%
Ireland 31 - 5.5%
Wales 31 - 5.5%
Scotland 26 - 4.6%
Italy 20 - 3.5%The top 12 birth-countries for players playing outside their country are:
SA - 137; NZ - 117; AUS - 63; ENG - 47; FIJ - 39; IRL - 29; TON - 27; WAL - 28; SCO - 25; ARG - 25; GEO - 24; SAM - 18; and France has just 6,SH birth countries include - Aus, Arg, Fiji, Namibia, NZ, SA, Samoa, Tonga, Zimbabwe, Tahiti, Trinidad & Tobago, Wallis & Fortuna, Uruguay, Colombia
NH birth countries include - Scot, Eng, Irl, Wal, Italy, Fra, Germany, USA, Canada, Netherlands, Georgia, Spain, Portugal, Monaco, St Lucia, Romania, Albania, Guinea, Russia, Nigeria, Hong Kong, Moldova, Cameroon, Burka Fasino, Ghana.
More specifically, the PRO14 which involves Ireland, Italy, Scotland & Wales has 727 players across 12 teams - average 61 players including their academies. Of those:
Home country-born - 551 - 76%
SH-born - 108 - 15%
NH-born - 68 - 9%In Ireland, there are 31 SH-born players which includes the likes of Carbery, with Irish parents who moved at 10, Niyi Adeolokun who moved from Nigeria at 9, and some with parents/grandparents such as Reidy, Bent, Bealham, etc. The split of 50 foreign-born players is NZ/SA/Eng 13 each, Aus 4, and ones from Fra, Spa, US, Can, Geo, etc who largely moved when they were kids with Irish parents in most cases.
As Billy Tell notes above the IRFU focus has largely shifted to using the Exiles branch in the UK and tracking already qualified Irish talent there and in France. Latest new cap, Will Addison, born in England, Irish mother, and had a break clause in his Sale contract, that if an opportunity arose with getting a contract in an Irish province, he could take it. It did and he did.
The numbers of SH-born players has been dropping in Ireland in the last 3 years. Yes of course, there are still some players who could residency qualify such as Jamison Gibson Park next July, assuming his Leinster contract is renewed, although Murray has now re-signed until 2021. Jean Kleyn, a SA lock at Munster is another, although there's at least 5 ahead of him in the queue. Lowe might or might not make it given his age and health issues - he wouldn't be available for selection until Six Nations 2021 - assuming he wants to renew/is offered contract in 2020. He's not a nominated project player and could get a better offer like Te'o did going to England. The others are standard club players - so far on performance anyway.
The remaining already capped foreign players contracts such as Fardy, Taute, van der Merwe finish next June and can't be renewed. Plus there'll be some likely retirements such as Tom McCartney in Connacht who's 34 next year. I reckon by season-end, there'll be less than five players who aren't Irish-qualified in Irish rugby. Assuming that others aren't hired in the meantime of course.
The IRFU announced today that it had sold some investment land property that will realise them at minimum $NZ45m and probably rising to $55/60m that gives IRFU "the opportunity to progress investment options which will, in addition to securing a new realisable asset, produce an additional, long term income stream to support further development of the domestic grass roots game on this island, in the decades to come. It is also envisaged that a portion of the proceeds will be provided for new club and playing facilities development programmes."
But I suppose that kind of financial long-term investment in the domestic game wouldn't fit with the 'scouring the world" angle that Gregor Paul decided to latch lazily onto.
@derm-mccrum Welcome to our world fella ...
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@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I must say it broke my heart a bit when I found out he was a pom. But it says everything about pom rugby at the time that a player of his calibre would never have gotten near the top. In any case, he acquired the bulk of his skills through the excellence of the NZ rugby system
.On Ridge, maybe he would have been less of a cnut if he hadn't gone to the cnut's nest that is Manly?
On Timu, would Jonah have been selected if Timu hadn't defected to league?
On Crowley, that bugger looked like a 70s AB who snuck onto the ground. Talk about regressing.
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
Would any of them have cracked the 80 kg Mark?
@mn5 said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@derm-mccrum said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@rancid-schnitzel said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
@no-quarter said in Ireland Vs All Blacks:
https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1062057442572361728?s=19
Gallagher was my favourite AB at that time. Was absolutely crushed when he went to league. A deadset legend in black.
Is that the guy that NZ poached from England/Ireland.........?
I must say it broke my heart a bit when I found out he was a pom. But it says everything about pom rugby at the time that a player of his calibre would never have gotten near the top. In any case, he acquired the bulk of his skills through the excellence of the NZ rugby system
.On Ridge, maybe he would have been less of a cnut if he hadn't gone to the cnut's nest that is Manly?
On Timu, would Jonah have been selected if Timu hadn't defected to league?
On Crowley, that bugger looked like a 70s AB who snuck onto the ground. Talk about regressing.
I'm not sure if they all played together on the same team, but Deans, Fox, McCahill, Wright and Crowley would have to be up there with the least physically imposing ABs of all time.
Would any of them have cracked the 80 kg Mark?
Maybe dripping wet with midgets on their backs.
Eddie Jones was an 80kg hooker back in the day.
