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Italy vs All Blacks

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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    @taniwharugby said in Italy vs All Blacks:

    @kiwiinmelb problem is they have fuck all games to try combinations...Laumape-Goodhue and ALB-Goodhue are pairings we should have seen but haven't.

    Yep in a WC year , we probably wont see it ,

    And i think they will continue their obsession with SBW at 12 when he is available .

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    taniwharugby
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    #282

    @kiwiinmelb TBH an in form SBW is probably what they need to deal with the rush defence, problem is, we are unlikely to see a completely fit SBW let alone a form SBW, who I believe was last sighted in bursts in early 2017.

    Laumape could provide a similar impact, but won't get many chances barring injuries to both SBW and Crotty

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @kiwiinmelb TBH an in form SBW is probably what they need to deal with the rush defence, problem is, we are unlikely to see a completely fit SBW let alone a form SBW, who I believe was last sighted in bursts in early 2017.

      Laumape could provide a similar impact, but won't get many chances barring injuries to both SBW and Crotty

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      kiwiinmelb
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      @taniwharugby yeah , and i guess heading into 2015 , there were similar questions asked about Carter , who if we remember looked a shadow of the great player in super rugby , then look what happened in the WC finals ,

      So maybe they will attempt to nurse him through , if it comes off it will look like another masterstroke , if it doesnt , they will cop it from all angles.

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        sparky
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        SBW looks done to me. Not sure he'll be a first-choice starter for the Blues next year.

        Laumape-Goodhue is the future ABs midfield.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          SBW looks done to me. Not sure he'll be a first-choice starter for the Blues next year.

          Laumape-Goodhue is the future ABs midfield.

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          taniwharugby
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          #285

          @sparky dunno, I think ALB-Goodhue would be a very good option too.

          As to SBW in super, well he wil get plenty of mandatory rest so the Blues will need to be looking at other options anyway, but when it comes to ABs it will make little difference.

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            No Quarter
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            I'm pretty comfortable with a Crotty-Gooodhue pairing for the RWC. Crotty is a class player - smart, organises the defense and his experience will count for a lot in the big games. If they can get him fit then I think he's a lock.

            Post RWC Laumape, ALB and Goodhue covering centres is exciting.

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              Machpants
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              Problem is Crotty can't bend the line like Laumape, or SBW if he was ever fit and firing again

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                No Quarter
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                #288

                Only two positives out of that game are:

                1. Coles running freely and getting a bit of form.
                2. Little confidence boost for Jordie who has had a tough year in black.

                Otherwise pretty disappointing tour overall. I really hope whatever the coaches were doing they learnt what they needed to and shelve the shit that didn't work.

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                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                  Only two positives out of that game are:

                  1. Coles running freely and getting a bit of form.
                  2. Little confidence boost for Jordie who has had a tough year in black.

                  Otherwise pretty disappointing tour overall. I really hope whatever the coaches were doing they learnt what they needed to and shelve the shit that didn't work.

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                  MN5
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                  #289

                  @no-quarter said in Italy vs All Blacks:

                  Only two positives out of that game are:

                  1. Coles running freely and getting a bit of form.
                  2. Little confidence boost for Jordie who has had a tough year in black.

                  Otherwise pretty disappointing tour overall. I really hope whatever the coaches were doing they learnt what they needed to and shelve the shit that didn't work.

                  Didn't watch the game. I see Fifita got a 9 out of 10. This pleases me.

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                  • No QuarterN No Quarter

                    Only two positives out of that game are:

                    1. Coles running freely and getting a bit of form.
                    2. Little confidence boost for Jordie who has had a tough year in black.

                    Otherwise pretty disappointing tour overall. I really hope whatever the coaches were doing they learnt what they needed to and shelve the shit that didn't work.

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                    kev
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                    @no-quarter

                    Lineouts and scrum look good.

                    Question marks:

                    • Our fowards struggling to make advantage line on carry
                    • Kicking when on attack.
                    • Box kicks as exit plays
                    • Attack that negates rush defence
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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @no-quarter said in Italy vs All Blacks:

                      Only two positives out of that game are:

                      1. Coles running freely and getting a bit of form.
                      2. Little confidence boost for Jordie who has had a tough year in black.

                      Otherwise pretty disappointing tour overall. I really hope whatever the coaches were doing they learnt what they needed to and shelve the shit that didn't work.

                      Didn't watch the game. I see Fifita got a 9 out of 10. This pleases me.

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                      kev
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                      #291

                      @mn5 had a quick look at those player ratings. Meaningless.

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                        Machpants
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                        Body Irish ref slowing the game down with all his injury stoppages, like last week, bloody typical

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                          raznomore
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                          Didn't watch live, such is my irrational indifference to the current state of ABs rugby after death by potato. Sorry about the casual racism. Any Irish posters please feel free to make a sheep shagging joke etc, etc.

                          There has to be some kind of record set by 2 brothers scoring four tries each in tests, let alone in a calendar year.

                          Coles looked good running wide.

                          Box kicks still do not suit our game plan/play. And IMO never will.

                          Laumape, ALB and Goodhue are our midfielders. Crotty is everything we need except someone who can break the line and thats a problem for me.

                          Is there a need to revert to running from depth to give ourselves more time and space?

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                          • raznomoreR raznomore

                            Didn't watch live, such is my irrational indifference to the current state of ABs rugby after death by potato. Sorry about the casual racism. Any Irish posters please feel free to make a sheep shagging joke etc, etc.

                            There has to be some kind of record set by 2 brothers scoring four tries each in tests, let alone in a calendar year.

                            Coles looked good running wide.

                            Box kicks still do not suit our game plan/play. And IMO never will.

                            Laumape, ALB and Goodhue are our midfielders. Crotty is everything we need except someone who can break the line and thats a problem for me.

                            Is there a need to revert to running from depth to give ourselves more time and space?

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                            @raznomore said in Italy vs All Blacks:

                            Didn't watch live, such is my irrational indifference to the current state of ABs rugby after death by potato. Sorry about the casual racism. Any Irish posters please feel free to make a sheep shagging joke etc, etc.

                            There has to be some kind of record set by 2 brothers scoring four tries each in tests, let alone in a calendar year.

                            Coles looked good running wide.

                            Box kicks still do not suit our game plan/play. And IMO never will.

                            Laumape, ALB and Goodhue are our midfielders. Crotty is everything we need except someone who can break the line and thats a problem for me.

                            Is there a need to revert to running from depth to give ourselves more time and space?

                            I know your heritage. Can I make Samoan jokes?

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                              taniwharugby
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                              #295

                              I didnt watch live, recorded on prime...recording stopped at 70 mins.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @raznomore said in Italy vs All Blacks:

                                Didn't watch live, such is my irrational indifference to the current state of ABs rugby after death by potato. Sorry about the casual racism. Any Irish posters please feel free to make a sheep shagging joke etc, etc.

                                There has to be some kind of record set by 2 brothers scoring four tries each in tests, let alone in a calendar year.

                                Coles looked good running wide.

                                Box kicks still do not suit our game plan/play. And IMO never will.

                                Laumape, ALB and Goodhue are our midfielders. Crotty is everything we need except someone who can break the line and thats a problem for me.

                                Is there a need to revert to running from depth to give ourselves more time and space?

                                I know your heritage. Can I make Samoan jokes?

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                                raznomore
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                                #296

                                @mn5 yes you may, my tight with money, kilted friend.

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                                • raznomoreR raznomore

                                  @mn5 yes you may, my tight with money, kilted friend.

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                                  MN5
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                                  @raznomore said in Italy vs All Blacks:

                                  @mn5 yes you may, my tight with money, kilted friend.

                                  Don't forget ginganess uso....and watch out for Mum's flying jandle 😉

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                                  • ShadowTrooperS ShadowTrooper

                                    @bones said in Italy vs All Blacks:

                                    @stargazer gorgeous ball from your boy RM.

                                    The whole backline looks a better balance with RM and TTT as the halves

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                                    @shadowtrooper said in Italy vs All Blacks:

                                    @bones said in Italy vs All Blacks:

                                    @stargazer gorgeous ball from your boy RM.

                                    The whole backline looks a better balance with RM and TTT as the halves

                                    Ffs. Yes, coming on after 50 odd minutes, when up by 50 points.

                                    Christ on a bike.

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                                      mariner4life
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                                      #299

                                      Watching the recording now. Early points:

                                      The TV production is appalling
                                      A ref going off injured is never not funny
                                      The italians stopping the game at every set piece for an injury is a disgrace

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                                        Rembrandt
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                                        It's only Italy but..I really like the idea of Jordie on the wing. Big advantage for crossfield kick scoring opportunities, he also seems to have filled out a bit with the ability to bump off tackles.

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                                          mariner4life
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                                          Well that was dessert aye? Little too sweet, not overly satisfying. Good for a few guys to just have a gallop, but as a pointer going forward it was useless. Italy are dogshit hopeless.

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