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  • SynicBastS SynicBast

    @MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @Siam said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @MN5 his bowling was good in Arabia, but his batting was found wanting

    Well yeah but again just seems CDGH is as criticized as Santner is ridiculously pumped.....at least on here.

    CDG to my mind has demonstrated he has the technique and skillset to be more than a hand-eye batsman on batting friendly pitches...Admittedly he has knuckled down and played a responsible watchful innings in line with the match/innings situations but that was actually more underlining the criticisms of his mental fortitude at test level. I'd rtaher have the neesh, who does actually have a solid technique to back up his hand-eye attributes. A lot of CDG's shots are made with minimal to nil foot work and the bat far away from the body and certainly not under the eyes. CDG is if anything a burgeoning Nathan Astle.

    Santner I do not get the love for...the attraction must be that he's a left arm orthodox spinner which in T20 and ODI is bloody useful. Left arm spinners are much rarer in cricket full stop, and that allows them just that extra amount of time of adjustment for the majority of batsmen, (excluding the top 30)

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    @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @Siam said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    @MN5 his bowling was good in Arabia, but his batting was found wanting

    Santner I do not get the love for...the attraction must be that he's a left arm orthodox spinner which in T20 and ODI is bloody useful. Left arm spinners are much rarer in cricket full stop, and that allows them just that extra amount of time of adjustment for the majority of batsmen, (excluding the top 30)

    Love for Santner?

    Maybe it's because he's recently been the No. 1 ranked T20 bowler in the world and No. 7 in ODIs.

    Plus he can hold a bat.

    What's not to like?

    To be honest, I don't really recall seeing him being "ridiculously hyped".

    Given that he's going to basically be a Shane Warne who scores test centuries, I'd say the excitement about him has been understated. 🙂

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    • SynicBastS SynicBast

      @rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

      @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

      he owns the best ever ODI innings by a NZer

      He has a strong argument for the best Test innings by a NZer too.

      The 290 in Perth? It's up there

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      @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

      @rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

      @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

      he owns the best ever ODI innings by a NZer

      He has a strong argument for the best Test innings by a NZer too.

      The 290 in Perth? It's up there

      Highest Test score by a tourist in Australia..
      Nice symmetry that we own the best individual batting and bowling performances in Australia by an overseas player.

      Bowling.
      http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;host=2;orderby=bbi;template=results;type=bowling

      Batting
      http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=2;opposition=2;orderby=high_score;template=results;type=batting

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      • VirgilV Virgil

        @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        @rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        he owns the best ever ODI innings by a NZer

        He has a strong argument for the best Test innings by a NZer too.

        The 290 in Perth? It's up there

        Highest Test score by a tourist in Australia..
        Nice symmetry that we own the best individual batting and bowling performances in Australia by an overseas player.

        Bowling.
        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;host=2;orderby=bbi;template=results;type=bowling

        Batting
        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=2;opposition=2;orderby=high_score;template=results;type=batting

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        @Virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        @rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        he owns the best ever ODI innings by a NZer

        He has a strong argument for the best Test innings by a NZer too.

        The 290 in Perth? It's up there

        Highest Test score by a tourist in Australia..
        Nice symmetry that we own the best individual batting and bowling performances in Australia by an overseas player.

        Bowling.
        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;home_or_away=2;host=2;orderby=bbi;template=results;type=bowling

        Batting
        http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;host=2;opposition=2;orderby=high_score;template=results;type=batting

        I woulda assumed someone woulda got a triple ton in oz at least once.

        Obviously not.

        Shot Rossco.

        As for Paddles he took the catch in the one wicket he didn't take. Legend.

        It reminds me of a story I heard where him and Jeff Crowe had a massive partnership vs Sri Lanka. Both got tons and whoever got there first would have scored the 100th century for New Zealand in tests. JC was batting in the top order, Paddles around 7-8 and when this stat was known did Paddles bow to poor old Jeff who even then woulda been in Marty's shadow ?

        Did he fuck, Paddles accelerated and got the 100th ton for NZ ( Jeff got the 101st ) to go with every other bowling record under the sun.

        Perhaps the Aussies were right when they chanted that name that rhymes with banker....

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        • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

          Re the Neesh, three games back and he is injured again. Not sure we are ever going to see the best of him because he cannot string games together.

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          @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

          Re the Neesh, three games back and he is injured again. Not sure we are ever going to see the best of him because he cannot string games together.

          He is made of porcelain. In terms of injuries he is like a poor man's Jacob Oram, heading into Shane Bond vitreous china territory

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

            Re the Neesh, three games back and he is injured again. Not sure we are ever going to see the best of him because he cannot string games together.

            He is made of porcelain. In terms of injuries he is like a poor man's Jacob Oram, heading into Shane Bond vitreous china territory

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            @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

            @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

            Re the Neesh, three games back and he is injured again. Not sure we are ever going to see the best of him because he cannot string games together.

            He is made of porcelain. In terms of injuries he is like a poor man's Jacob Oram, heading into Shane Bond vitreous china territory

            Wonder what our greatest broken XI would look like:

            Oram
            Bond
            Loveridge
            Murphy Sua?
            Heath Davis?

            I'm reaching now ...

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

              @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

              Re the Neesh, three games back and he is injured again. Not sure we are ever going to see the best of him because he cannot string games together.

              He is made of porcelain. In terms of injuries he is like a poor man's Jacob Oram, heading into Shane Bond vitreous china territory

              Wonder what our greatest broken XI would look like:

              Oram
              Bond
              Loveridge
              Murphy Sua?
              Heath Davis?

              I'm reaching now ...

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              @nzzp Allot

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              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                @nzzp Allot

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                @dogmeat said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                @nzzp Allot

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @dogmeat said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                  @nzzp Allot

                  alt text

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                  @nzzp jeezuz living up to his name - he's of dogmeat proportions now

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                  • dogmeatD dogmeat

                    @nzzp jeezuz living up to his name - he's of dogmeat proportions now

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                    @dogmeat said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                    @nzzp jeezuz living up to his name - he's of dogmeat proportions now

                    He blew up after retiring. Still, we'll always have 1999

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                    • dogmeatD dogmeat

                      @nzzp jeezuz living up to his name - he's of dogmeat proportions now

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                      @dogmeat said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                      @nzzp jeezuz living up to his name - he's of dogmeat proportions now

                      Who are we to judge, people in glass houses etc etc..

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                      • VirgilV Virgil

                        @dogmeat said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                        @nzzp jeezuz living up to his name - he's of dogmeat proportions now

                        Who are we to judge, people in glass houses etc etc..

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                        @Virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                        @dogmeat said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                        @nzzp jeezuz living up to his name - he's of dogmeat proportions now

                        Who are we to judge, people in glass houses etc etc..

                        It's damn tough for ex-athletes. Mark Richardson blew up as well, but maaned to get on top of it. Now a bit of a multisport guy.

                        I had no excuse. Just like beer and meat too much

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                          Re the Neesh, three games back and he is injured again. Not sure we are ever going to see the best of him because he cannot string games together.

                          He is made of porcelain. In terms of injuries he is like a poor man's Jacob Oram, heading into Shane Bond vitreous china territory

                          Wonder what our greatest broken XI would look like:

                          Oram
                          Bond
                          Loveridge
                          Murphy Sua?
                          Heath Davis?

                          I'm reaching now ...

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                          @nzzp said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                          @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                          @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                          Re the Neesh, three games back and he is injured again. Not sure we are ever going to see the best of him because he cannot string games together.

                          He is made of porcelain. In terms of injuries he is like a poor man's Jacob Oram, heading into Shane Bond vitreous china territory

                          Wonder what our greatest broken XI would look like:

                          Oram
                          Bond
                          Loveridge
                          Murphy Sua?
                          Heath Davis?

                          I'm reaching now ...

                          Anderson and Neesh will make it in

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                            @MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                            @Siam said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                            @MN5 his bowling was good in Arabia, but his batting was found wanting

                            Santner I do not get the love for...the attraction must be that he's a left arm orthodox spinner which in T20 and ODI is bloody useful. Left arm spinners are much rarer in cricket full stop, and that allows them just that extra amount of time of adjustment for the majority of batsmen, (excluding the top 30)

                            Love for Santner?

                            Maybe it's because he's recently been the No. 1 ranked T20 bowler in the world and No. 7 in ODIs.

                            Plus he can hold a bat.

                            What's not to like?

                            To be honest, I don't really recall seeing him being "ridiculously hyped".

                            Given that he's going to basically be a Shane Warne who scores test centuries, I'd say the excitement about him has been understated. 🙂

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                            @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                            @SynicBast said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                            @MN5 said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                            @Siam said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                            @MN5 his bowling was good in Arabia, but his batting was found wanting

                            Santner I do not get the love for...the attraction must be that he's a left arm orthodox spinner which in T20 and ODI is bloody useful. Left arm spinners are much rarer in cricket full stop, and that allows them just that extra amount of time of adjustment for the majority of batsmen, (excluding the top 30)

                            Love for Santner?

                            Maybe it's because he's recently been the No. 1 ranked T20 bowler in the world and No. 7 in ODIs.

                            Plus he can hold a bat.

                            What's not to like?

                            To be honest, I don't really recall seeing him being "ridiculously hyped".

                            Given that he's going to basically be a Shane Warne who scores test centuries, I'd say the excitement about him has been understated. 🙂

                            Yeah Santner's ODI record is insane - 33 bowling average at just 4.9 RPO (which is crazy good these days) and a 28 batting average that is sure to rise as he matures. IMO he's one of our most important players in the shorter forms, and will be critical to our success at the CWC. We really need him fit.

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                              Cairns and Nash would be contenders too. Martin Crowe?

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @nzzp said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                @canefan said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                Re the Neesh, three games back and he is injured again. Not sure we are ever going to see the best of him because he cannot string games together.

                                He is made of porcelain. In terms of injuries he is like a poor man's Jacob Oram, heading into Shane Bond vitreous china territory

                                Wonder what our greatest broken XI would look like:

                                Oram
                                Bond
                                Loveridge
                                Murphy Sua?
                                Heath Davis?

                                I'm reaching now ...

                                Anderson and Neesh will make it in

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                                #663

                                @canefan Marty Crowe. Edit: Snap!

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                                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                  Cairns and Nash would be contenders too. Martin Crowe?

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                                  @Cyclops said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                  Cairns and Nash would be contenders too. Martin Crowe?

                                  Crowe still realised much of his potential, but he could have been even greater. I remember in his early days he was a useful medium change bowler at ODI level too before his back protested too much

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                                    Jonathan Millmow - he broke and never came back. He had the most 'interesting' bowling action I have ever seen at international level.

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                                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                      Jonathan Millmow - he broke and never came back. He had the most 'interesting' bowling action I have ever seen at international level.

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                                      @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                      Jonathan Millmow - he broke and never came back. He had the most 'interesting' bowling action I have ever seen at international level.

                                      As interesting as Gladstone Small or Bumhra?

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                                      • canefanC canefan

                                        @Crazy-Horse said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                        Jonathan Millmow - he broke and never came back. He had the most 'interesting' bowling action I have ever seen at international level.

                                        As interesting as Gladstone Small or Bumhra?

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                                        @canefan worse I reckon. Guessing that is why he broke down. Years later he played for East Christchurch/Shirley as an all rounder. His action was more orthodox but he had lost his pace.

                                        Hard to describe, but from memory it was very front on with a windmill type action with a flurry of bent elbows here and there. Made Lance Cairns look text book.

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                                          Trevor Franklin - run over by a baggage handler at the airport, I think - among other injuries.

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