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  • CyclopsC Cyclops

    NZ triple centurions are on odd bunch. Sutcliffe and Turner obviously class. I know bugger all about Roger Blunt. Mark Richardson and Devon Conway, both good, on the cusp of great. But then you have Ken Rutherford, Dean Brownie, Peter Fulton, Michael Papps and now Tom Bruce. All decent players, but none really set the world alight when given the chance at higher honours.

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    @Cyclops said in Other Cricket:

    NZ triple centurions are on odd bunch. Sutcliffe and Turner obviously class. I know bugger all about Roger Blunt. Mark Richardson and Devon Conway, both good, on the cusp of great. But then you have Ken Rutherford, Dean Brownie, Peter Fulton, Michael Papps and now Tom Bruce. All decent players, but none really set the world alight when given the chance at higher honours.

    Rutherford's triple ton was a little on the farcical side. Yes, it was a first-class game, but only thanks to the vagaries of how random games in the UK are accorded first-class status. While the D.B (Brian) Close XI was arguably strong with Miandad, Boycott and a few other internationals, it was very much a festival game on the 1986 tour of England. Ruds was hungover and probably still partially steamed after Willie Watson's 21st pissup the night before.

    https://tinglingcatch.blogspot.com/2013/05/ken-rutherfords-317_12.html?m=1

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      Bert Sutcliffe's 385 really is a crazy scorecard

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      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

        Bert Sutcliffe's 385 really is a crazy scorecard

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        @KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:

        Bert Sutcliffe's 385 really is a crazy scorecard

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        Crikey. Has there ever been a case when a single batsman has scored more than three times what his teammates got combined ?

        In another quirk he isn’t even the best batsman who ever lived who was called Bert Sutcliffe…..

        https://www.espncricinfo.com/cricketers/herbert-sutcliffe-20413

        This guy got a triple ton as well, plus a shitload of other runs.

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          There is also Reid's 296 which was the first class record for sixes in an innings for decades. 230 in boundaries.

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          • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

            There is also Reid's 296 which was the first class record for sixes in an innings for decades. 230 in boundaries.

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            @KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:

            There is also Reid's 296 which was the first class record for sixes in an innings for decades. 230 in boundaries.

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            My old history teacher Wilf Haskell there with an unfortunate duck.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilf_Haskell

            Apparently he holds the record for the biggest six ever hit at the Basin though.

            ( he may have embellished this himself somewhat......)

            It was pretty cool to look up an almanack and see his details and realise his cricket yarns weren't all complete bullshit though !

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              If you were to pick an all time fast scoring NZ ODI XI it would be this - using the highest strike rate in each position in the batting order (min 10 innings in that position). 3 wicket keepers to choose from and bowling from Boult, Southee, Adams, Anderson, Michael Bracewell, Ravindra. Slowest scorers in brackets.

              Ravindra 110.73 (Howarth 45.84)
              Munro 108.20 (Edgar 49.66)
              B. McCullum 85.28 (Sinclair 56.39)
              Mitchell 95.54 (Reid 50.93)
              Anderson 134.31 (Burgess 56.25)
              Ronchi 123.57 (Vincent 53.56)
              M Bracewell 123.52 (Harris 66.98)
              Smith 111.40 (Larsen 54.63)
              Adams 122.04 (Pringle 57.53)
              Southee 103.03 (Morrison 43.37)
              Boult 78.22 (O'Connor 27.84)

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              • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                If you were to pick an all time fast scoring NZ ODI XI it would be this - using the highest strike rate in each position in the batting order (min 10 innings in that position). 3 wicket keepers to choose from and bowling from Boult, Southee, Adams, Anderson, Michael Bracewell, Ravindra. Slowest scorers in brackets.

                Ravindra 110.73 (Howarth 45.84)
                Munro 108.20 (Edgar 49.66)
                B. McCullum 85.28 (Sinclair 56.39)
                Mitchell 95.54 (Reid 50.93)
                Anderson 134.31 (Burgess 56.25)
                Ronchi 123.57 (Vincent 53.56)
                M Bracewell 123.52 (Harris 66.98)
                Smith 111.40 (Larsen 54.63)
                Adams 122.04 (Pringle 57.53)
                Southee 103.03 (Morrison 43.37)
                Boult 78.22 (O'Connor 27.84)

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                @KiwiPie looks like they'll either get 450, or be rolled for under a hundy.

                Andre Adams was criminally underused by NZ. Not sure why - personality clashes?

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                • nzzpN nzzp

                  @KiwiPie looks like they'll either get 450, or be rolled for under a hundy.

                  Andre Adams was criminally underused by NZ. Not sure why - personality clashes?

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                  @nzzp said in Other Cricket:

                  @KiwiPie looks like they'll either get 450, or be rolled for under a hundy.

                  Andre Adams was criminally underused by NZ. Not sure why - personality clashes?

                  From his Wiki page
                  Adams debuted at the highest level for New Zealand in March 2002, but a bout of back injuries on the West Indies tour of 2002 allowed Jacob Oram to move ahead of him in the pecking order, limiting him to one Test. Following that, question marks were raised about his attitude.

                  and
                  However, this was overshadowed by his one-month suspension for grabbing and shaking the helmet of Central Districts batsman Bevan Griggs.
                  (presumably it was his batting helmet ....)

                  He would have made a fortune playing the T20 leagues in the Chris Jordan role if he had been 10 years younger.

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                  • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                    If you were to pick an all time fast scoring NZ ODI XI it would be this - using the highest strike rate in each position in the batting order (min 10 innings in that position). 3 wicket keepers to choose from and bowling from Boult, Southee, Adams, Anderson, Michael Bracewell, Ravindra. Slowest scorers in brackets.

                    Ravindra 110.73 (Howarth 45.84)
                    Munro 108.20 (Edgar 49.66)
                    B. McCullum 85.28 (Sinclair 56.39)
                    Mitchell 95.54 (Reid 50.93)
                    Anderson 134.31 (Burgess 56.25)
                    Ronchi 123.57 (Vincent 53.56)
                    M Bracewell 123.52 (Harris 66.98)
                    Smith 111.40 (Larsen 54.63)
                    Adams 122.04 (Pringle 57.53)
                    Southee 103.03 (Morrison 43.37)
                    Boult 78.22 (O'Connor 27.84)

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                    @KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:

                    If you were to pick an all time fast scoring NZ ODI XI it would be this - using the highest strike rate in each position in the batting order (min 10 innings in that position). 3 wicket keepers to choose from and bowling from Boult, Southee, Adams, Anderson, Michael Bracewell, Ravindra. Slowest scorers in brackets.

                    Ravindra 110.73 (Howarth 45.84)
                    Munro 108.20 (Edgar 49.66)
                    B. McCullum 85.28 (Sinclair 56.39)
                    Mitchell 95.54 (Reid 50.93)
                    Anderson 134.31 (Burgess 56.25)
                    Ronchi 123.57 (Vincent 53.56)
                    M Bracewell 123.52 (Harris 66.98)
                    Smith 111.40 (Larsen 54.63)
                    Adams 122.04 (Pringle 57.53)
                    Southee 103.03 (Morrison 43.37)
                    Boult 78.22 (O'Connor 27.84)

                    Jeez, not often McCullum's the plodder that everyone else bats around.

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                      @Cyclops yeah, I imagine his strike rate for his last year or 2 was probably closer to 150 though. Damn he was exciting to watch open the batting at that time.

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                      • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                        Bert Sutcliffe's 385 really is a crazy scorecard

                        image.png

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                        @KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:

                        Bert Sutcliffe's 385 really is a crazy scorecard

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                        From memory that was the highest first class score by a left handed batsman as well..until that 'so so' batsman from the West Indies did ok..

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          @Cyclops yeah, I imagine his strike rate for his last year or 2 was probably closer to 150 though. Damn he was exciting to watch open the batting at that time.

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                          @No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:

                          @Cyclops yeah, I imagine his strike rate for his last year or 2 was probably closer to 150 though. Damn he was exciting to watch open the batting at that time.

                          From the start of 2015 he played 27 ODIs and his strike rate was 154.91.

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                            hey @Chris any insight in to whether or not Ussie just wanted the weekend off to go to the motor racing, not really expecting Qld to need him again this season?

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                              hey @Chris any insight in to whether or not Ussie just wanted the weekend off to go to the motor racing, not really expecting Qld to need him again this season?

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                              @mariner4life said in Other Cricket:

                              hey @Chris any insight in to whether or not Ussie just wanted the weekend off to go to the motor racing, not really expecting Qld to need him again this season?

                              Yeah phantom hammy Qld cricket pretty pissed off,
                              I can’t say too much but no record of any injury.
                              That I know for certain.
                              Ussie is a top bloke though really down to earth .

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                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360630270/two-test-divisions-international-windows-and-india-sharing-their-riches-crickets-future

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                                  No BCCI involvement so not much progress I reckon.

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                                    Three West Indian batsmen and not a single fast bowler raises a few eyebrows for starters…..

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                                      Three West Indian batsmen and not a single fast bowler raises a few eyebrows for starters…..

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                                      @MN5 Pommy social media site aimed at lads under 25.

                                      Can't take it seriously when they include Dhoni. Must have a lot of Indian subscribers.

                                      Despite their records I wouldn't have Kallis or Lara in a top 10 either. As for Iron Bottom - almost as much of a joke as Dhoni.

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                                        @MN5 Pommy social media site aimed at lads under 25.

                                        Can't take it seriously when they include Dhoni. Must have a lot of Indian subscribers.

                                        Despite their records I wouldn't have Kallis or Lara in a top 10 either. As for Iron Bottom - almost as much of a joke as Dhoni.

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                                        @dogmeat said in Other Cricket:

                                        @MN5 Pommy social media site aimed at lads under 25.

                                        Can't take it seriously when they include Dhoni. Must have a lot of Indian subscribers.

                                        Despite their records I wouldn't have Kallis or Lara in a top 10 either. As for Iron Bottom - almost as much of a joke as Dhoni.

                                        You’re dead to me……..

                                        In terms of a mercurial individual I can’t think of anyone better than Lara ( number one on this list the obvious exception)

                                        Beefy is worth a mention for the first half of his career in which he was pretty untouchable. He should have retired around 1987 or so though……

                                        Dhoni is the obvious ridiculous call here….

                                        Also the complete and utter lack of fast bowlers.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @dogmeat said in Other Cricket:

                                          @MN5 Pommy social media site aimed at lads under 25.

                                          Can't take it seriously when they include Dhoni. Must have a lot of Indian subscribers.

                                          Despite their records I wouldn't have Kallis or Lara in a top 10 either. As for Iron Bottom - almost as much of a joke as Dhoni.

                                          You’re dead to me……..

                                          In terms of a mercurial individual I can’t think of anyone better than Lara ( number one on this list the obvious exception)

                                          Beefy is worth a mention for the first half of his career in which he was pretty untouchable. He should have retired around 1987 or so though……

                                          Dhoni is the obvious ridiculous call here….

                                          Also the complete and utter lack of fast bowlers.

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                                          @MN5 said in Other Cricket:

                                          You’re dead to me……..

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                                          It's top 10 of all time. It could be there aren't sufficient superlatives to describe a player and he still misses out.

                                          I think I have found where ladsbible got that list from. The BBC did a poll to coincide with the 2019 CWC (shame it was cancelled)

                                          If you look at the list below its a complete lift

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                                          Listeners of the Beebs Asian Networkvoted for their favourite from a shortlist of 30 players compiled by a panel of experts, including Radio 1 DJ and co-host of 5 Live’s Tailenders Greg James, former English cricketer Isa Guha, IPL host Shonali Nagrani, and Asian Network’s Noreen Khan.

                                          Hardly surprising then that

                                          • nearly half come from the subcontinent

                                          • apart from Bradman and Sobers all played at least some of their career during the last 30 years or so

                                          • there's three Poms that you could definitely argue against

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