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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
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@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
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@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
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@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
But in saying that two of the better batsmen to have graced the game this century.
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@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
But in saying that two of the better batsmen to have graced the game this century.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
Sure Kohli played hard and took no prisoners but cared for people off the field,Warner cares for himself at all costs to others.
But I am giving my opinon of what I see. I understand you see what you have seen and that forms your opinion. -
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
Sure Kohli played hard and took no prisoners but cared for people off the field,Warner cares for himself at all costs to others.
But I am giving my opinon of what I see. I understand you see what you have seen and that forms your opinion.@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
Sure Kohli played hard and took no prisoners but cared for people off the field,Warner cares for himself at all costs to others.
But I am giving my opinon of what I see. I understand you see what you have seen and that forms your opinion.The fern wouldn't see much traffic if this didn't happen
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@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
Sure Kohli played hard and took no prisoners but cared for people off the field,Warner cares for himself at all costs to others.
But I am giving my opinon of what I see. I understand you see what you have seen and that forms your opinion.The fern wouldn't see much traffic if this didn't happen
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@mariner4life said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
A test average of 46 is possibly a bit disappointing but perhaps it just got too tough to maintain absolute excellence in all three formats ? Not quite sure if he was top of the Fab Four at his peak, let’s not forget Steve Smith…..but if you take all formats into account maybe he was.
As has been mentioned his ODI figures were insane. Very likely the best ODI batsman of all time ( ok maybe tied with Viv )
The test game will be worse off without him.
As always curious to hear the thoughts of @NTA once he’s finished celebrating
David Warner with a public tribute wherein half the words are actually about David? Colour me surprised.
Warner isn’t the biggest piston wristed gibbon in that photo though
Yes he is by a long way.
He never got to me like he got to others. Kohli's efforts in the Aussie tour are more recent in the memory.
Maybe call it a draw.
Mate from personal experience Warner is a bigger tosser in real life,I have spent some time with both of them coaching at academies in India,Melbourne ( where Kohli had a house for a few years) and Sydney thanks to my connection with Craig McDermotts academy.
II certainly can't name drop like that but Kohli doing this is fucken petty and unbecoming
Again, both are sure picks for a recent 'piston wristed gibbon' 11
Sure Kohli played hard and took no prisoners but cared for people off the field,Warner cares for himself at all costs to others.
But I am giving my opinon of what I see. I understand you see what you have seen and that forms your opinion.The fern wouldn't see much traffic if this didn't happen
100 per cent mate life is what we see and we all see different things for many different reasons,It makes the Fern and the people on here interesting.
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@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
Yeah - history won't record how The Don would have gone if he'd played another 498 international matches.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
Yeah - history won't record how The Don would have gone if he'd played another 498 international matches.
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
Yeah - history won't record how The Don would have gone if he'd played another 498 international matches.
Or how Don only really played against England 37 of 52 tests v England.
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@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
Yeah - history won't record how The Don would have gone if he'd played another 498 international matches.
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@MN5 said in Other Cricket:
@Chris-B said in Other Cricket:
@No-Quarter said in Other Cricket:
Kohli's overall test stats put him a level below Smith, Kane and Root, but he was a player that really rose to the occasion and seemed to thrive under pressure rather than fold.
I think that's why stats shouldn't be treated as the be all and end all.
As Virgil points out, if he'd walked away in 2019 he could have averaged 55.
I'm happy to have him on the same tier as Kane et al.
He's played 550 international matches to Kane's 371!
More opportunity - but, also more attrition....
Yeah 30 test hundreds is pretty damn epic.
…….and 46 is still what I’d consider at the top end of very good test averages.
Yeah - history won't record how The Don would have gone if he'd played another 498 international matches.
Yeah the average might have plummeted to 95
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Well done Root. He is VERY close to passing three of the modern eras true legends, should do so very shortly given he has five home tests coming up against India which should see him sail clear comfortably.
We can gripe all we like about England playing more cricket than we do so he’ll always have more of a chance than KW but he still has to go out and actually GET the runs and not suffer from fluctuations in form/fitness.
I wonder if Tendulkars record is on his mind ?
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For stats nerds, Shubman Gill is the first player to score 200 and 150 in a test match. I suppose this era of fast scoring makes it possible.
@KiwiPie said in Other Cricket:
For stats nerds, Shubman Gill is the first player to score 200 and 150 in a test match. I suppose this era of fast scoring makes it possible.
430 runs only 2nd to Gooch's 456 back in 1990
3 hundreds in 4 innings, 2 tests matches into the series and hes already plundered 585 runs, still 3 tests to go.
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Well done this guy……
Easily the highest test score ever from a South African and he’s still going. Currently 5th equal, better than a run a ball….
Incredible effort for a guy who doesn’t have anywhere near the batting pedigree of Lara, Hayden, Jayawardene, Sobers, Hutton, Hammond etc
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What the fuck ? They declared at lunch and he can’t blame the captain cos he IS the captain.
…..and they get the Zimbabwe opener first ball.
I’m genuinely disappointed he didn’t have a go at Lara’s record. Zimbabwe are 5/2 already, loads of time to have rolled them twice.
