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2019 Rugby World Cup

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  • TimT Tim

    @antipodean Well that’s a relief.

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    @Tim said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

    @antipodean Well that’s a relief.

    Agreed - I think he prefers our way of playing too.

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      Owens. Sweet bro as.

      I write that like I’ve been away from NZ too long. Something’s not right.

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      • rotatedR rotated

        @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        But you won't find 0 from 1 examples like a Trinh-Duc missed DG in 2011 finals very easily.

        As part of the acceptance phase of my therapy I will offer up McAllister 0 from 1 in 2007.

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        @rotated said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

        But you won't find 0 from 1 examples like a Trinh-Duc missed DG in 2011 finals very easily.

        As part of the acceptance phase of my therapy I will offer up McAllister 0 from 1 in 2007.

        Mehrtens 1 from 3 in 1995 final.

        Jannie de Beer 1 from 5 in 1999 semifinal trying to repeat his quarterfinal heroics.

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          What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

          Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

            Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

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            @Bovidae is that official? So we have Owens?

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            • canefanC canefan

              @Bovidae is that official? So we have Owens?

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              @canefan Yes, from the WR website.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

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                @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                Oh good god.

                Garces, two Frog touchies and Skeenie.

                Heaven help England and Aus.

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                  What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                  Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                  Oh good god.

                  Garces, two Frog touchies and Skeenie.

                  Heaven help England and Aus.

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                  @booboo The phrase "lost in translation" comes to mind.

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                  • RapidoR Rapido

                    Here is some general historical analysis, and NZ-focussed analysis of drop-goals in the RWC knockout stages.

                    RWC_DGs.PNG

                    • 78% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages have been by the winning team in that match
                    • Surprisingly, NZ have actually scored 22% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages.
                      (I'm not sure if this in an outlier or not? NZ have payed in 34% of all the RWC knockout matches)
                    • 88% of NZ's dropgoals have resulted in a winning effort (the only one that didn't was Mehrtens' DG in the 1995 final)
                    • Only 2 teams have won a RWC without scoring a DG at some stage during their knockout games. South Africa in 2007 and Australia in 1991. (Quite a surprising stat for SAF in 2007 with Morne Steyn at 10 and the style in vogue during those years)

                    Out of 56 knockout matches in history. 23 of these matches have involved (at leasat one) dropgoal. 41% chance of seeing a DG, 59% chance of no DG

                    (Note: I don't include 3rd v 4th playoff as a knockout)

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                    @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                    Here is some general historical analysis, and NZ-focussed analysis of drop-goals in the RWC knockout stages.

                    • 78% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages have been by the winning team in that match
                    • Surprisingly, NZ have actually scored 22% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages.
                      (I'm not sure if this in an outlier or not? NZ have payed in 34% of all the RWC knockout matches)
                    • 88% of NZ's dropgoals have resulted in a winning effort (the only one that didn't was Mehrtens' DG in the 1995 final)
                    • Only 2 teams have won a RWC without scoring a DG at some stage during their knockout games. South Africa in 2007 and Australia in 1991. (Quite a surprising stat for SAF in 2007 with Morne Steyn at 10 and the style in vogue during those years)

                    Out of 56 knockout matches in history. 23 of these matches have involved (at leasat one) dropgoal. 41% chance of seeing a DG, 59% chance of no DG

                    Butch James was the preferred flyhalf in 2007.
                    Known for a lot of things, but drop goals definitely wasn't one of them.

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                      Really happy to have Owens as the ref. A known quantity and a very experienced ref who won't let things get to him. I'm just stoked when don't have the frog trifecta.

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                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                        Really happy to have Owens as the ref. A known quantity and a very experienced ref who won't let things get to him. I'm just stoked when don't have the frog trifecta.

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                        @chimoaus said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                        Really happy to have Owens as the ref. A known quantity and a very experienced ref who won't let things get to him. I'm just stoked when don't have the frog trifecta.

                        Don't get too gleeful. Hopefully we put the Irish back in their box but then we seem to be lined up for a Frog in the semis (assuming England win)

                        Actually scrap that. England wouldn't get the tricolour twice in a row so maybe Peyper for a semi-final. I reckon Barnes is getting the final as a retirement pressie (if England aren't there)

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                        • boobooB booboo

                          @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                          Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                          Oh good god.

                          Garces, two Frog touchies and Skeenie.

                          Heaven help England and Aus.

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                          @booboo said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                          What we all want to know is, which game Skeen is involved in.

                          Screen Shot 2019-10-15 at 17.11.03.png

                          Oh good god.

                          Garces, two Frog touchies and Skeenie.

                          Heaven help England and Aus.

                          Oh, the mischief in me wants every rugby fan in England and Australia to be very familiar with the name " Ben Skeen" at game's end 😉

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                          • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                            @Rapido said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            Here is some general historical analysis, and NZ-focussed analysis of drop-goals in the RWC knockout stages.

                            • 78% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages have been by the winning team in that match
                            • Surprisingly, NZ have actually scored 22% of all dropgoals taken in the RWC knockout stages.
                              (I'm not sure if this in an outlier or not? NZ have payed in 34% of all the RWC knockout matches)
                            • 88% of NZ's dropgoals have resulted in a winning effort (the only one that didn't was Mehrtens' DG in the 1995 final)
                            • Only 2 teams have won a RWC without scoring a DG at some stage during their knockout games. South Africa in 2007 and Australia in 1991. (Quite a surprising stat for SAF in 2007 with Morne Steyn at 10 and the style in vogue during those years)

                            Out of 56 knockout matches in history. 23 of these matches have involved (at leasat one) dropgoal. 41% chance of seeing a DG, 59% chance of no DG

                            Butch James was the preferred flyhalf in 2007.
                            Known for a lot of things, but drop goals definitely wasn't one of them.

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                            @Billy-Webb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                            Butch James was the preferred flyhalf in 2007.
                            Known for a lot of things, but drop goals definitely wasn't one of them.

                            Speaking of Butch, his tackling style would have went down a treat at this RWC.

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                            • CrucialC Crucial

                              @chimoaus said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                              Really happy to have Owens as the ref. A known quantity and a very experienced ref who won't let things get to him. I'm just stoked when don't have the frog trifecta.

                              Don't get too gleeful. Hopefully we put the Irish back in their box but then we seem to be lined up for a Frog in the semis (assuming England win)

                              Actually scrap that. England wouldn't get the tricolour twice in a row so maybe Peyper for a semi-final. I reckon Barnes is getting the final as a retirement pressie (if England aren't there)

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                              @Crucial That's why we should all be cheering for a Welsh win, as that allows a French ref in that SF too.

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                                I can't see Farrell getting away from that ref team without a card unless there's another deal.

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @Billy-Webb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  Butch James was the preferred flyhalf in 2007.
                                  Known for a lot of things, but drop goals definitely wasn't one of them.

                                  Speaking of Butch, his tackling style would have went down a treat at this RWC.

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                                  @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  @Billy-Webb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                  Butch James was the preferred flyhalf in 2007.
                                  Known for a lot of things, but drop goals definitely wasn't one of them.

                                  Speaking of Butch, his tackling style would have went down a treat at this RWC.

                                  Only for one game.
                                  Then he would have been sanctioned - and given his less-than-spotless record, he would have copped the full 6 week ban. :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:

                                  Mind you - he was actually pretty accurate with his tackling technique in RWC2007. Can't remember any of his trademark hits taking place.

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    I can't see Farrell getting away from that ref team without a card unless there's another deal.

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                                    @Bones said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                    I can't see Farrell getting away from that ref team without a card unless there's another deal.

                                    Farrell has been surprisingly better this RWC than he has been in the past with his technique.
                                    But if there is such a thing as karma, you'd think this is as good a time as any for it to strike to balance the scales of his past unpunished indiscretions.

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                                    • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                      @Bones said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      I can't see Farrell getting away from that ref team without a card unless there's another deal.

                                      Farrell has been surprisingly better this RWC than he has been in the past with his technique.
                                      But if there is such a thing as karma, you'd think this is as good a time as any for it to strike to balance the scales of his past unpunished indiscretions.

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                                      @Billy-Webb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      @Bones said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                      I can't see Farrell getting away from that ref team without a card unless there's another deal.

                                      Farrell has been surprisingly better this RWC than he has been in the past with his technique.
                                      But if there is such a thing as karma, you'd think this is as good a time as any for it to strike to balance the scales of his past unpunished indiscretions.

                                      They haven't been under any pressure yet. In a high pressure situation it is always easy to revert back to default techniques and habits

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                                      • Billy WebbB Billy Webb

                                        @Bones said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                        I can't see Farrell getting away from that ref team without a card unless there's another deal.

                                        Farrell has been surprisingly better this RWC than he has been in the past with his technique.
                                        But if there is such a thing as karma, you'd think this is as good a time as any for it to strike to balance the scales of his past unpunished indiscretions.

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                                        @Billy-Webb said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                        @Bones said in 2019 Rugby World Cup:

                                        I can't see Farrell getting away from that ref team without a card unless there's another deal.

                                        Farrell has been surprisingly better this RWC than he has been in the past with his technique.
                                        But if there is such a thing as karma, you'd think this is as good a time as any for it to strike to balance the scales of his past unpunished indiscretions.

                                        Very true...it's almost like a player has heeded the current framework and taken responsibility for his own actions... 😉

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                                          The Irish have a plan.

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